Yeah, once you shoot it the first time, you will kick yourself for not doing it sooner...
The Mask is an awesome can. You'll love it.
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The Mask is an awesome can. You'll love it.
SiCo Sparrows were all the rage 6-8 years ago. Surprised nobody mentions them. Maybe they aren't available anymore. I haven't been keeping up on shooting stuff as much as in the past.
Not so much for the op, but for anyone else reading this thread doing research:
I have a Ruger Silent SR 22 suppressor. When I bought it I originally wanted the Dead Air Mask, but it was out of stock. The DAM was recommended at a shoot due to the absence of first round pop.
So, I bought the Ruger instead - I also wanted to buy from a company that has history, and I have faith that they will be around in the future.
The Ruger is easy to assemble/disassemble - put baffles in CLR - and it doesn't have a first round pop either. All 3 of my rimfires are accurate with the Ruger: Bergara b14r, cz 457, and a t1x in .17 hmr.
My BIL bought the Dead Air Mask a year later. I really can't tell any difference in noise reduction between the 2, but that is subjective.
I have a Ruger Silent SR 22 suppressor. When I bought it I originally wanted the Dead Air Mask, but it was out of stock. The DAM was recommended at a shoot due to the absence of first round pop.
So, I bought the Ruger instead - I also wanted to buy from a company that has history, and I have faith that they will be around in the future.
The Ruger is easy to assemble/disassemble - put baffles in CLR - and it doesn't have a first round pop either. All 3 of my rimfires are accurate with the Ruger: Bergara b14r, cz 457, and a t1x in .17 hmr.
My BIL bought the Dead Air Mask a year later. I really can't tell any difference in noise reduction between the 2, but that is subjective.
I understand what you are saying, the PTP unit will run 5.7 in semi but not full auto. Wasn't sure how much you were willing to spend so just putting out another option.
I’m not worried about price. Only performance. Mainly precision rifles it will be used on
Sparrow here also. I've had mine for several years. FRP isn't an issue for me. Battlehawk Armory has them for $299 but currently out of stock.
22 cans are cheap enough. Once you get your first one, you will want more. Buy the TBAC and the Mask. You won’t regret it.
I really like the KGM RF22. Very light and easy to clean. No POI shift on my Vudoo at all. After a range trip, I spray the baffles down with AeroKroil and wipe everything down. Cleans right up and never builds to the point of needing more aggressive and time consuming cleaning methods.
I also have a Tactical Solutions Axiom, it's a great can that doesn't get talked about as much. It's a bit quieter than the RF 22 and Dead Air Mask that I've compared it to with the same ammo. Also easy to clean. I usually give this one the Ultrasonic cleaning treatment every 500 rounds or so.
I also have a Tactical Solutions Axiom, it's a great can that doesn't get talked about as much. It's a bit quieter than the RF 22 and Dead Air Mask that I've compared it to with the same ammo. Also easy to clean. I usually give this one the Ultrasonic cleaning treatment every 500 rounds or so.
Same here. I always enjoyed my .22’s, but hadn’t really shot them much in recent years. Getting my Mask HD and my Ranger 22 made me fall in love with shooting them again. I will be getting at least 1 more Mask HD, just for my .22 pistols.
It also has gotten my buddy’s youngest daughter interested in shooting, because it is so quiet and has zero recoil. She saw us shooting it off the porch one day and wanted to try. She had never shot anything larger than a kids-sized BB gun, or anything with an optic on it prior-to. So we setup a target at about 20 yards, and put a 2” orange bullseye sticker in the middle. We showed her how to look through the scope, the mechanics of how the gun functioned, and basic firearms safety, and she had that whole orange sticker shot off in about 15 minutes. We were both kind of shocked at how fast she learned, and how good she was. She’s a regular Annie Oakley.
Dude, Silencer Central are not very well liked in the suppressor community. The folks who own/run it are pretty derpy and have been known to spit blatant lies. Example, they once tried to claim their Banish 30 was the best selling suppressor of all time.
I’d steer-clear of those doofuses, but that’s just my opinion. Get the Mask HD and don’t look back.
Strange… Why couldn’t he get the Mask? Sounds a bit odd.
Just not in stock. Checked several times. He was putting a big TBAC order in and asked if I was interested in the TBAC instead. Figure at this point based on the reviews here I’d be happy with either. I’ll probably buy both honestly. Especially with kids coming up it be nice to have a couple.
Was beginning of September when I made this thread. With work and other commitments today is finally the day I’ll get the paperwork rolling on this. Figure I won’t see it for a year anyways but should get something going. Especially with politics going the way they are in MI. You never know. Dems take over across the board in a couple weeks here.
I handled one at a gun show and the threaded end of it has a pretty small shoulder at maybe .750 and would look weird on the end of a kukri or MTU contour. If going on something like a Tikka it would probably be fine.
Paperwork is in. Now the wait begins!
Apparently there’s some forms you fill out if within 24 months of approval for last atf form. Supposed to expedite the process a bit. Anyone done this? I did so I’ll see for myself but just curious if you actually get the E form 4 back quicker
Think I’ll be getting a mask when it comes in stock. My dealer checked before I got my TBAC and they were still out of stock
Apparently there’s some forms you fill out if within 24 months of approval for last atf form. Supposed to expedite the process a bit. Anyone done this? I did so I’ll see for myself but just curious if you actually get the E form 4 back quicker
Think I’ll be getting a mask when it comes in stock. My dealer checked before I got my TBAC and they were still out of stock
Good luck with the time line. I did the eForm through Silencer Shop kiosk, owner of that LGS said he was getting stamps back in under 90 days...filed mine in Feb, it finally got approved in Oct...still better than a one year wait.
I wish I heard this a year ago
And I've been happy with the Mask. I'm sure the TBAC takedown 22 is good as well so both of those are popular and good recommendations.
What's the Form number to expedite? I need this. I constantly keep at least 1 in the pipe waiting. This could be helpful for future eForms...
Here is a link to what I’m referring to. I didn’t know anything about it until today. My dealer brought it up. Submitted with my normal paperwork. So in my case we did the same paperwork as without it but did it as an extra form. May speed it up may not we’ll see.
Again I know nothing about this personally and didn’t realize it existed until today. So take it for what it’s worth
ATF 24 Month Exception for NFA Gun Trust and Legal Entity Documentatio
24 Month Exception for NFA Gun Trust and Legal Entity Documentation when using the ATF Form 1, eForm 1, ATF eForm 4 ATF Form 4 or the ATF Form 5 When applying with an ATF Form 1, eForm 1, ATF eForm 4, ATF Form 4 or the ATF Form 5 there is a 24 month exception for NFA gun trusts and legal...
www.nationalguntrusts.com I use Single Shot trusts, so that wouldn't apply to me. I will eventually get an actual NFA Gun Trust for my stuff, but as for now the Single Shots make things quick and cheap.Here is a link to what I’m referring to. I didn’t know anything about it until today. My dealer brought it up. Submitted with my normal paperwork. So in my case we did the same paperwork as without it but did it as an extra form. May speed it up may not we’ll see.
Again I know nothing about this personally and didn’t realize it existed until today. So take it for what it’s worth
ATF 24 Month Exception for NFA Gun Trust and Legal Entity Documentatio
24 Month Exception for NFA Gun Trust and Legal Entity Documentation when using the ATF Form 1, eForm 1, ATF eForm 4 ATF Form 4 or the ATF Form 5 When applying with an ATF Form 1, eForm 1, ATF eForm 4, ATF Form 4 or the ATF Form 5 there is a 24 month exception for NFA gun trusts and legal...
The dead air mask is stupid quiet, but most are on a .22 rifle. I went with a silencerco sparrow because every time I ever saw a group testing of one on different rifles they actually grouped better with the sparrow than unsuppresssed, most cans shoot about the same as unsuppressed or a hair worse depending. but, it does have a more noticeable first round pop on pistols due to more airspace. my next .22 pistol can will be a dead air mask. i am also going to get a griffin optimus micro for the AR and .22s.
Inline6, Thank you. That's what my Google found, but I wasn't sure it was what Padom meant. Thanks again.
I don't think there really is a best. I own a few, and my next may be a Mask or TBAC. There are a ton of great options now, in the sub $400 range. A lot can depend on whether you are running mostly on a pistol, because there, primary considerations are weight, FRP, and overall DB reduction. On a rifle, I find FRP, DB, and weight all matter a heck of a lot less, and most .22 cans perform pretty well. On a rifle, the can is another foot or so away from your face, so it tends to sound a lot quieter. I think it is here (rifle) where things like the Sparrow shine because of how simple they are to clean. If you are going to run mostly on a pistol, especially a lighter pistol such as a Ruger MK IV, you definitely want to prioritize weight.
My only experience is with the Mask. Will say I got 1" or so groups at 100 with my friend's CZ 455 with it on (both Center X and SK ammo, stock chassis, Harris bipod.)
I use a form 1 from XRT. Quiet enough that I can hear the T1x receiver ring from the firing pin hitting the rim. Doesn't seem to effect accuracy, if it does I'm a poor enough shot that it isn't noticable but I'm also not making 300-400 yard shots regularly. Not bad for $350 all in (including the stamp)
Nice vid! My prob with CCI quiet is its more like shooting artillery/indirect fire vs. centerfire lol.
Closer to pellet gun trajectories at 710fps…can almost see the damn bullet arc into the target. Heck, some pellet guns shoot supersonic.
CCI Quiet won’t cycle my 10/22 nor my Ruger MkIV. But it is fun out of the right gun at 50yds or less, for me anyway, as I varmint shoot.
The CCI quiet trajectory is hilarious
It's very useful for shooting out your wife's office window into the yard while she's home though... I'll probably be testing some Tenex this weekend I'll try to remember to take a couple videos of that as well.
Received my EA NYX Mod 2 a few days ago and was surprised that I couldn’t tell a difference in sound between the long and short configuration on my 10/22 using CCI Standard Velocity. Very happy with the can so far.
I ordered my second .22 can the other day. Went with a griffin Optimus micro based on several guys here who owned both that and the DA mask. As well as my dealer’s recommendation
So the wait for the griffin and TBAC continues
Have a B14R, T1X and Ruger Mark IV tactical waiting patiently
So the wait for the griffin and TBAC continues
Have a B14R, T1X and Ruger Mark IV tactical waiting patiently
Honestly just pick one. Whichever one you can get a better deal on and is in stock. The biggest practical difference to me between the two (I have both) is the weight. TBAC is a bit lighter.
Both suppress very well and clean up easy.
I’ve got the Griffin Resistance with the added taper mount blast baffle. Cycling the bolt on my 20” savage is louder than firing. Very impressed with how quiet is. However I need to shoot it more to see how I feel about it for prs style match accuracy.
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