26 pound 375 CT Recoil

[A5scott]

I have all the pieces to build a 33XC or a 338 LM on a BAT CT 1.47" action with a Manners ELR light stock with a 1.45" barrel blank, and I saw a BAT CT Cheytac bolt available for sale, and I was curious about the recoil of the 375CT... It would weigh about 26 pounds.

I have put 250 rounds through a 28 pound 416 Barrett (M99 24" barrel, hunter model) and the recoil isn't bad, and I have used it in a couple ELR matches. It's a slow twist so I used 416 grain bullets loaded by Thunder Ammo, and they were around 2900fps

I also shot around 700 rounds through an 20 pound 338LM, many with a Silencerco Hybrid 46, and that recoil is fine too. 300 grain Bergers going about 2860 fps.

I was curious if anyone can give me an idea of the 375 recoil, as I imagine it would be similar to my 416 Barret pusing 416 grain bullets at 2900fps, since I'd probably be shooting 375 cal Berger Hybrid or the 400 grain Cutting Edge.

Is the 375 CT recoil a fast kick like a hunting rifle? or a slower push like a 416 Barrett?

Or is it much better to go with a 1.75" or 1.6" adult Cheytac size receiver and build it out that way

I just looked up the weight of the Cadex Shadow in 375CT and looks like it's around 20 pounds, depending on barrel length, and some have said the recoil of that rifle is not bad at all.

Thank you,
Scott

 

[Kopfjager1]

I dont have a 375 or 338, however, using Gordons Reloading Tool (highly recommend getting, its free), the recoil energy of the .375 410 gr Berger at 2800 would result in about 39ftlbs of energy, the 338 LM would produce 25 ftlbs of energy, and the 416 Barrett produces 62ftlbs of energy. This doesnt account for brakes or added friction (bipods, bags, etc).

 

[Long Range 338]

I have all the pieces to build a 33XC or a 338 LM on a BAT CT 1.47" action with a Manners ELR light stock with a 1.45" barrel blank, and I saw a BAT CT Cheytac bolt available for sale, and I was curious about the recoil of the 375CT... It would weigh about 26 pounds.

I have put 250 rounds through a 28 pound 416 Barrett (M99 24" barrel, hunter model) and the recoil isn't bad, and I have used it in a couple ELR matches. It's a slow twist so I used 416 grain bullets loaded by Thunder Ammo, and they were around 2900fps

I also shot around 700 rounds through an 20 pound 338LM, many with a Silencerco Hybrid 46, and that recoil is fine too. 300 grain Bergers going about 2860 fps.

I was curious if anyone can give me an idea of the 375 recoil, as I imagine it would be similar to my 416 Barret pusing 416 grain bullets at 2900fps, since I'd probably be shooting 375 cal Berger Hybrid or the 400 grain Cutting Edge.

Is the 375 CT recoil a fast kick like a hunting rifle? or a slower push like a 416 Barrett?

Or is it much better to go with a 1.75" or 1.6" adult Cheytac size receiver and build it out that way

I just looked up the weight of the Cadex Shadow in 375CT and looks like it's around 20 pounds, depending on barrel length, and some have said the recoil of that rifle is not bad at all.

Thank you,
Scott

I've got a 408 CT and shooting the 420 gr CE bullets with a suppressor. Rifle is Cadex Shadow and not running any additional weights of any kind. Recoil to me feels similar to 12 gauge trap loads. Recoil is there but not too bad at all. I would equate it more to a 338 style of recoil that is more of a shove than a sharp, fast jab. Worst rifles I've shot have been 30 caliber magnums as the recoil is very fast and sharp. Hopefully this gives you some context from a purely anecdotal perspective.

 

[A5scott]

I dont have a 375 or 338, however, using Gordons Reloading Tool (highly recommend getting, its free), the recoil energy of the .375 410 gr Berger at 2800 would result in about 39ftlbs of energy, the 338 LM would produce 25 ftlbs of energy, and the 416 Barrett produces 62ftlbs of energy. This doesnt account for brakes or added friction (bipods, bags, etc).

Thank you for the heads up... I've seen Chuck Hawks, but I'll check out Gordons.
The 39ftlbs doesn't sound terrible, and I thought the 338 was in the mid 30's though, but depends on the values of the parameters entered.

Thanks,
Scott

 

[A5scott]

I've got a 408 CT and shooting the 420 gr CE bullets with a suppressor. Rifle is Cadex Shadow and not running any additional weights of any kind. Recoil to me feels similar to 12 gauge trap loads. Recoil is there but not too bad at all. I would equate it more to a 338 style of recoil that is more of a shove than a sharp, fast jab. Worst rifles I've shot have been 30 caliber magnums as the recoil is very fast and sharp. Hopefully this gives you some context from a purely anecdotal perspective.

ok yeah, I understand what you mean when talking 30 cal magnums, so that helps.

Thank you,
Scott

 

[NightStash]

Wife's first CheyTac was 29 pounds and she had no issues.

 

[steve123]

My 34 pound 375CT had a easy push which was nice to shoot. This was 16 years ago and the brake wasn't as efficient as what we have nowadays.

I'd much rather have shot it than my friends 270 hunting rifle.

 

[khdudley13]

Buddy just had one built just under 19 pds.. less optics .. I’ve got one 24 .. terminator brakes on both.. little hard to stay on target.. but not to bad recoil wise..

 

[secondofangle2]

My 32# 375CT w t5 brake is manageable enough that I can spot for myself 1000 yards and past

 

[wooferocau]

My DT HTI 375ct comes in at around 31lbs,s..... fitted with a Terminator T5, its a pussy cat to shoot..

 

[M67]

400gr bullets at near 3kfps in my 22lb rifle is no problem recoil-wise. IF you have a good brake. I have an APW, and my daughter and her friend (100lbs, 15/16y old girls) shoot it without issue - just use good hearing protection

K

 

[secondofangle2]

A warning: do not get this idea in your head that you can run a suppressor and have a rifle that shoots as tamely we posters above are describing it.

Unless somebody comes out with a good can with an anchor break on it, or you are going to pay $6000 for the thunder beast 50 caliber can which is 2 feet long, you need a good brake not a can to tame recoil in anything 338 Lapua and bigger

Recoil reduction with a good break will be 50 to 65%. That with a can without an anchor break will be 30% tops and maybe less than 10%.

 

[A5scott]

A warning: do not get this idea in your head that you can run a suppressor and have a rifle that shoots as tamely we posters above are describing it.

Unless somebody comes out with a good can with an anchor break on it, or you are going to pay $6000 for the thunder beast 50 caliber can which is 2 feet long, you need a good brake not a can to tame recoil in anything 338 Lapua and bigger

Recoil reduction with a good break will be 50 to 65%. That with a can without an anchor break will be 30% tops and maybe less than 10%.

I ran a SiCO Hybrid 46 on my 338LM and it wasn't bad, but it definitely made the recoil a bit more sharp. I shot one ELR match with it, but decided to go with a brake for the next ELR match.

I have the Barrett QDL with the anchor brake and it really helps with the recoil on the 416 Barrett which isn't bad to begin with.

I never really did any testing with it to check point of impact shift after removing it and putting it back on, and I left it on for the 2 day match I shot it at. My new 416B build just has a good 5 port brake on it. I haven't shot it yet, but with the 40" barrel, and weighing about 38 pounds, it should be easy to shoot.

The stock I have for the potential 375CT is easy to get behind, so I imagine with a good brake and a heavy barrel, recoil should be nothing to worry about.

Thanks again for the replies
Scott

 

[Polar Bear Actual]

My 32# 375CT w t5 brake is manageable enough that I can spot for myself 1000 yards and past

I also use the T5 brake on a 28# 375CT. Recoil is very reasonable for a big caliber but the muzzle blast is no joke. Foamies and muffs are required. If you have shot a 416 you already have the required amount of CTE.

 

[kthomas]

A warning: do not get this idea in your head that you can run a suppressor and have a rifle that shoots as tamely we posters above are describing it.

Unless somebody comes out with a good can with an anchor break on it, or you are going to pay $6000 for the thunder beast 50 caliber can which is 2 feet long, you need a good brake not a can to tame recoil in anything 338 Lapua and bigger

Recoil reduction with a good break will be 50 to 65%. That with a can without an anchor break will be 30% tops and maybe less than 10%.

I shot someone's .375 CT with a suppressor on it, and it was absolutely brutal.

Thing kicked like a mule. Hard and sharp. Maybe I'm a pussy, but I did not enjoy it.

 

[Centurion123]

Agreed, even a 30lb 375ct suppressed was a bit too much for me. At 26lbs the most performance while still being ok to shoot suppressed is 33xc imo, but ymmv. People are different

 

[secondofangle2]

I’ve probably mentioned this a dozen times, but I have a 35 pound gun, including the elite iron all steel suppressor and that can is in the junk drawer. I will not shoot anything over 30 caliber without a break. I don’t care if the brake is on the suppressor or the gun, but I don’t want to develop bad habits from recoil.

I like to think I’m a young 53 year-old but there’s a difference between taking it and enjoying it and if you got a good cheek weld that snap of recoil really torques on your neck.

I just keep waiting for a nice light titanium suppressor with an anchor brake. But that modular won the elite iron makes is just too complicated with too many parts and tools for me. Just give me a simple two-piece titanium suppressor with an anchor brake.

 

[wooferocau]

This is my setup nowadays with the 375 and 50BMG...
Each HTI weighs in at approx. 46 pound's and the blast shields eliminate ALL blast back to the shooter...... makes them an absolute pleasure to use !! Virtually no recoil and no blast..

 

[secondofangle2]

^ that right there tells you everything you need to know about shooting a lightweight 375CHEYTAC

 

[wooferocau]

A friend shooting my 46lb 375CT