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    That's a stout load to get 2900+ with a 186gr bullet. I'm getting just under 2700fps with a Berger 185 and 58.1 of Ramshot Hunter.
     

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    Agreed. Reloader 17 has given me some impressive velocities in 30-06 in other loads I have worked up. It is not the most accurate powder I have ever tested , actually it is kinda meh in that department, but it is second to none when it comes to delivering max velocity. I'm hoping to tickle 2000 yards with this rifle so I need every FPS I can get.

    But this powder also requires you to know what you are doing and be extremely smart when working up loads, it is also a temp sensitive powder, so a safe load in winter may be over max on a hot summer day.

    This is the first time I've used Peregrine bullets but there site does claim that loads using their bullets will have similar pressure and performance to cup and core bullets. However they are very long, much like a typical solid copper bullet bullets and I seated mine long at 3.575" so I'm guessing that extra case capacity helped the performance a little. I'm pretty sure if I had tried to seat that bullet at a more "normal" 3.340" this load would probably have been a bomb.
     
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    Manners T-4 adj.comb and butt. Serrengetti chamber, 30" Pac-Nor straight taper, 3 groove barrel. Leupold 7-42 x 56. I 1/2# trigger. Sierra 210 MK bullets @.015 off. Lapua brass neck turned with .37" chamber. Newest "06" is in a XLR Element chassis with a 28" Bartlien Heavy Varmit barrel with 10-9.5 twist. Serrengetti National Match chamber with 109 lead instead of 86 for longer bullets or M1 30-06 rifles. Same trigger at 1 12 #. Both actions are made by Defiance. The longer chamber is made for 215 Berger Hybrids at the same .015 off. Nightforce NX8 4-32X56 F1. Great scope! Brass is neck turned Peterson or Lapua but lighter brass like Hornady does not have to be turned because the chamber is .38 instead of .37. I turn them except the 155.5 bergers in Hornady brass because they shoot good no matter what. In fact, both rifles will shoot just about any thing I load better than any other 30-06 I've owned. At 500 yards and in, the 155 bullets shoot really good. The 200-20X bergers shoot as good as any also. all the way out to 1000 yards. All of these heavy bullets are loaded with 52.3 grs of IMR 4350. It's a wide window. Any thing from 51.8 to 53grs of IMR 4350 will shoot. You can fine tune it but I go by outside temp.. Winter when It's cold, 53grs is safe. If it's Arizona hot, 51.8 grs is better. So i just stick with 52.3 grs and not worry about it. It's the wind for me at 1000 that brings out the heavy weights. 1000 yards is a lot further out than 800 for me. When Silver State brass was bought out by Nosler I bought 1000 pieces of brass for. 25 cents a piece. 500 most weighed 193-196 grs. and the other 500 most were at 172- 175grs. It has proven to be good brass. All with CCI BR-2 primers. When the Pac-Nor barrel wears out, I will get another one just like it. I hope the new factory is making them just as good with their new machines they have after losing every thing in the fire they had. Semper Fi to them for rebuilding from scratch.
     
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    Has anyone loaded the new 208 or 220 LRHT Bergers? I have a few boxes of the 215 hybrid and 208 A Max I’ve been planning to use. My rifle is a 700 M40 Long Range with the 26” barrel.
     

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    I have run 208 eldm. About 2780 fps, shoot pretty good with RL 26. Roughly 1/2 MOA.
     

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    Anyone using RL17 in 30-06 with 178/180s? What kind of velocity difference do you see with temp change?

    With H4350 I’m getting pressure signs at 2700fps. 52.5gr RL17 gets me 2700 no problem at 60 degrees. 1x LC match brass.

    Need to back down the H4350 and see what I can safely get. Hit pressure at my starting load.
     

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    I also have IMR 4350, 4064, 4895, and some varget that I can probably trade for anything else worth trying. Bullets I’m considering are 180 accubonds and 178 ELD-X. Maybe 175 TMK.

    I can’t even load at mag length with this gun though although accuracy with most factory stuff has been pretty good so far at least. I’m not compressed up to 53.5gr of RL17 but think 53gr of H4350 was compressed.

    Gonna shoot 10 shot groups with the 178 ELD-x and 180 accubonds sometime in the next week or so. Also have a few extras loaded up to get a few velocities based off 5 round strings at different temps.
     

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    I got higher velocities with IMR 4350 vs H4350. I currently use Ramshot Hunter or Superformance for my 175-185 gr loads. I've only tried IMR 4064 and the 4895 powders with 165-168gr bullets.
     

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    I’ve used IMR 4350 for 175SMK, 178AMAX and 185 Berger Juggernaut target and OTM.
    I’ve also used IMR 4895 for 155 Lapua Scenars and Sierra Palma bullets; these are screamers that shoot really flat out to 1K.
    I’ve found that RL17 works best with 208 ELDM and 208 Berger Hybrids.
    For 210SMK I use RL22.
    Most of this is covered on the first page of this thread.
     

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    I’m getting my reloading situation sorted out again. I just ordered 250 cases from Starline. I have a few hundred 208 A Maxs left, 100 215 Hybrids and am considering 208 LRHTs, 208 and 225 ELDMs. For powder, I have a pound of Re22 and I think one of Re23. I’m looking to grab some Re26. Seems like people are having a lot of success with Re26.
     

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    Bringing out my rifle from a decade hibernation. I hope the barrel has been fine in my humidity controlled safe.

    208 amax - 2.813 ogive / 3.549 oal

    Powder - Hodgon H4350 (50 grain)

    I dont remember the speeds but it was a 1/4 moa rifle. Blueprinted r700 w 26" barrel

    Speed was maybe 2500
     
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    Does anyone have more Berger 185 juggernaut info? That combo is really intriguing
     

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    I load 185 Berger VLD hunting with 58gr of Ramshot Hunter and a Lapua case.
    Is this a pretty hot load that requires a Lapua case? Getting some premium .30-06 brass is in my list but I can get it sooner rather than later if needed
     

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    Work up. It's pretty hot and they are loaded long for a Remington throat.

    Not real hot though. I think I'm just over book max.
    Right on, I wasn’t going to just shovel that much powder in anyway. It’s being shot from a Rem factory barrel right now. I have some Nosler 165’s that are loaded long and there’s room to spare so these should still fit fine
     

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    German Salazar Serengeti chamber, Rock 10 twist 23”:

    185 Juggernaut
    LC M72 Match brass
    210M
    55.5 IMR 4350
    COAL 3.372
    2775FPS AV
    28.25 MOA 1K

    WIN brass
    210M
    55.7 IMR 4350
    COAL 3.372
    2765 AV
    28.50 MOA 1K

    I also found an RL17/185 load I tried @ 1K on 7/18
    LAPUA brass
    210M
    57.3 RL17
    COAL 3.372
    AV 2953!
    25.75 MOA 1K

    Your mileage will vary; work up carefully.

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    Right on, I wasn’t going to just shovel that much powder in anyway. It’s being shot from a Rem factory barrel right now. I have some Nosler 165’s that are loaded long and there’s room to spare so these should still fit fine
    It's a ball powder so it meters really well and fills the case nicely. The weight might seem like a lot but I think it has to do with it being a ball powder. I also found it to be fairly clean burning. That is my go to hunting load.
     
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    It's a ball powder so it meters really well and fills the case nicely. The weight might seem like a lot but I think it has to do with it being a ball powder. I also found it to be fairly clean burning. That is my go to hunting load.
    I’ve also noticed that it’s fairly available too. That’s nice
     

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    What’s different about the “Serengeti” chamber? Is it just a long freebore?