Re: 6 officers shot in Utah
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 300sniper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coldboremiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This story has been pissin me off since I first heard about it, so much of this is not making sense. The guy shoots 5 and kills another, and they didn't kill him? Whats more why did they have to serve a warrant for marijuana at night? If they'd of simply showed up during the day and not charged in there probably wouldn't have had to been any shooting.
I'm not saying they were wrong, I'd give either party the benefit of the doubt. Except for the guy growing dope in his house, but nobody needs to die over this bullshit.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eleaf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Until police agencies cease with storming in people's houses, fully armed, in the middle of the night in order to prosecute a war on a plant, this will continue.
Did no one think to knock on the door like a civilized person? Or confront this Iraq veteran while he was at work? When the first course of action is extreme violence in the middle of the night, this is the logical result. Some might argue a justified one as well. </div></div>
what article are you reading that says they showed up in the middle of the night? what article are you reading that says they barged into the house? i am totally against forced entry warrants in almost all cases but this guy shot the officers as they approached the house. in this situation, it didn't matter if they were going to knock or not. </div></div>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">On Wednesday, at around 9 p.m. in Ogden, Utah, a 12-man "Narcotics Strike Force team" which included local police, Sheriff's officers, and members of the Drug Enforcement Administration [video] knocked on the door of Matthew David Stewart, in possession of a search warrant related to as-yet-unspecified drug charges. Police say there was no answer, so they kicked in the door.</div></div>
This happened at about 9pm, which is smack in the middle of this guy's night, as he works 3rd shift.
How is ANYONE supposed to differentiate between the police busting in your door, or a criminal busting in your door when you've been woken out of bed? Someone (or even multiple people) yelling "Police" is not a morally sufficient way to be able to identify the police from would-be robbers who could simply yell "Police" (though I'm well aware that, for one reason or another, it is legally sufficient). There is a better way than to have the police introduce extreme violence in to a situation that isn't already violent. This is not Iraq or Afghanistan and, despite the fantasies of law enforcement, there are not hordes of pot smokers waiting just beyond their door ways, just waiting to kill a cop at the door.