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6mm BR

I went up to 30grs of N140 behind 109hybrids the other day in a 25”Bart in lapua brass /205. Jumping .025” velocity was 2700. I thought it would be faster.
Sounds about right with your 25” barrel. But how does it group?
 
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It was small.. 🤣


It’s about the same as shooters world precision. I guess I had hoped it would have been closer to Varget speeds.
 
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The new 6bra is ready for season.

- impact 737r
- ks arms 1:7.5 twist 26”
- spearhead 5 port tuner brake
- tt diamond flat
- Vision Pro chassis
- apex rival 4-32x56mm

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Finally built a 6BR and I'm extremely impressed. Just loaded up 30gr of Varget with a 105 Hybrid and went to the range.

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Bartlein 26" 1.250 straight
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That was my experience too with a 28" Straight Krieger and similar load (30 grains Varget / 0.070" jump with 105 hybrids).

6BR is just easy.
 
That was my experience too with a 28" Straight Krieger and similar load (30 grains Varget / 0.070" jump with 105 hybrids).

6BR is just easy.
Yep definitely wished I would have done it sooner. Shot it at 300 yards today and was just as impressed. Meant to shoot five but apparently primers are needed lol.
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28inch Lothar Walther barrel, 6BR Norma chamber, Norma brass, RUAG primers. Howa short action. Holed a primer at only 27.5gr Varget/2208 with 108ELDM about 20 thou off lands contact (measured with barrel off). Gunsmith had bolt face laser welded drilled smaller and ground and polished firing pin.

Once I got the bolt back:

Initial pressure testing I went up to 30 grains from 28gr in 0.5grain steps which gave 2799fps, single digit SD for 30gr. Case head just off extractor cutout measuring approximately 0.0015 growth.

Out of curiosity I loaded 108ELDM and 110atip (Atip loaded round measured about 25 thou shorter at Ogive with hornady comparator seating without adjusting forster seating die) in 0.5 grain increments up to 32grains, powder was in bottom of case necks, 108 tail Junction was forward of case neck Junction, 110 about level, I'll have to buy a neck reamer to make sure I don't have any donut problems down the road.

Clear but not significant ejector marks towards 32grains, which was about 2940fps, slightly heavier bolt lift, case head growth significantly more, worst may have been 0.004 or 0.0045 from memory.

So I will run with 30 grains varget. That velocity seem reasonably standard and best I can tell I should get reasonable case life with that load. Primers clearly work fine once firing pin was sorted out.

Will get a proper seating depth on the Atips once I have fireformed all the cases.

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Try AA-2230 or 2460 with the 58 and 65 V-Max.

@lash You should see those 58s hit the 8" plate at 800. Even with a starting velocity over 3600, it barely moves.
 
I've used a lot of them on rock chucks.
It makes a soupy mess of their insides at long range.
3-400 it unzips them.
Closer than that creates chunks.
 
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I'd start with the 8208 with the 58 and 65 gr bullets. You should be able to find good data on Hodgdon.com or in a Hornady load manual.
 
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Settled on 33.6 of 8208. Single digit es. 3365 FPS.
Seating depth hasn’t been great yet. Still have some more to test. .8 is about the best so far which is adequate for varmints no further than 300.
 
N150 about 280 shots down the barrel. Will start testing seating depths next week. Really seems to like the 109 hybrids.
 

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Lapua? What is the approximate case fill % wise with 30g of N150?
Sorry, yes Lapua cci450 primers. No idea on the case fill. I loaded 3 rounds of the same 30 grains and jumped it .080 and it still wasn’t a compressed load. When I get more time I’ll see what the max jump I can get to is.
Also when jumped .080 speed dropped to 2774fps.
 
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Sorry, yes Lapua cci450 primers. No idea on the case fill. I loaded 3 rounds of the same 30 grains and jumped it .080 and it still wasn’t a compressed load. When I get more time I’ll see what the max jump I can get to is.
Also when jumped .080 speed dropped to 2774fps.
I’m still using Varget in my Br but bought 4 8#’s of N150 for next couple of years because of the increased price of hodgdon powders. My load is 30.2 Varget, Lapua, 450’s, 112MB’s @ 2820 out of a 27.5 barrel. Brass 7x as of today and no issues.
What is your barrel length?
 
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I’m still using Varget in my Br but bought 4 8#’s of N150 for next couple of years because of the increased price of hodgdon powders. My load is 30.2 Varget, Lapua, 450’s, 112MB’s @ 2820 out of a 27.5 barrel. Brass 7x as of today and no issues.
What is your barrel length?
Nice! I really like N150. I’m running a 26” barrel. I played with the 105 hybrids and they shot great but I happened upon these 109’s and wanted to try them. Also im running a 1:7 twist.
 
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I have to confess I am going to switch from 6BR to 6GT next season due to Lapua brass being available. 6gt run at 2950-3000fps has similar wind drift as 6.5 creedmoor.
 
I have to confess I am going to switch from 6BR to 6GT next season due to Lapua brass being available. 6gt run at 2950-3000fps has similar wind drift as 6.5 creedmoor.
Curious why lapua brass has pushed you you there? The alpha 6gt is excellent and will do anything that brass from a blue box will do.
 
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Has anyone compared cci 450’s to remington 7 1/2’s? I have 600 rem 7 1/2’s figured i may try them in my brx as i am running low on 450’s.
 
Has anyone compared cci 450’s to remington 7 1/2’s? I have 600 rem 7 1/2’s figured i may try them in my brx as i am running low on 450’s.

I have tried R7.5’s with several different powders in several different cartridges. In my experience, R7.5’s work better with H4350 and H4895. Not saying that they don’t work with the powders, I just got better results with those two.
 
Has anyone compared cci 450’s to remington 7 1/2’s? I have 600 rem 7 1/2’s figured i may try them in my brx as i am running low on 450’s.
I have compared them side by side in 6 BR and saw no difference in group size, this was at just 200 yards though . Small sample size , 3 different bullets and two powders . Powders were AA4064 and H4895 . I would not hesitate to experiment with them , you may find they shoot very well with your powder. I use VV powders for comp with 450s but practice and hunt with the 7 1/2"s with no issues .
 
I have tried R7.5’s with several different powders in several different cartridges. In my experience, R7.5’s work better with H4350 and H4895. Not saying that they don’t work with the powders, I just got better results with those two.
Definitely will be trying them then, i been running h4350 with 105 barnes match burners and cci 450's with great results.
I have compared them side by side in 6 BR and saw no difference in group size, this was at just 200 yards though . Small sample size , 3 different bullets and two powders . Powders were AA4064 and H4895 . I would not hesitate to experiment with them , you may find they shoot very well with your powder. I use VV powders for comp with 450s but practice and hunt with the 7 1/2"s with no issues .
Which VV powders are you running? I have ran h4895 and h4350 but have been thinking of trying some vv n150 or 550.
 
Definitely will be trying them then, i been running h4350 with 105 barnes match burners and cci 450's with great results.

Which VV powders are you running? I have ran h4895 and h4350 but have been thinking of trying some vv n150 or 550.
I like n150 and n540 for bullets in the 105 range and n135 for light bullets I use in 100 yard BR comps.
 
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Please notify me or correct it if this needs to go elsewhere.

I have a Redding Competition Seating Die. Seats fine, but it gars/scars up my 105 105 Hybrids. What is the best way to correct this or polish this up?

Or, would I be better off getting a different seating die? Honestly, I don't even think it's affecting any accuracy or anything, just like my boooolits to match my shiny tumbled brass. Haha
 
Please notify me or correct it if this needs to go elsewhere.

I have a Redding Competition Seating Die. Seats fine, but it gars/scars up my 105 105 Hybrids. What is the best way to correct this or polish this up?

Or, would I be better off getting a different seating die? Honestly, I don't even think it's affecting any accuracy or anything, just like my boooolits to match my shiny tumbled brass. Haha
Your first step should be to take the die apart, clean it well, then polish up the seating cone. If it’s a larger problem than that, consider a different die.

I’ve always had good luck with just the clean and polish routine.
 
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Your first step should be to take the die apart, clean it well, then polish up the seating cone. If it’s a larger problem than that, consider a different die.

I’ve always had good luck with just the clean and polish routine.
Appreciate it. I have cleaned it well. What is recommended for polishing?
 
Appreciate it. I have cleaned it well. What is recommended for polishing?
For me, it’s an old dremel with a felt domed cone bit with polish type appropriate for what the seating cone looks like.

For the record, I’m not a smith, just a hobbyist.

Search: dremel felt polishing tip
 
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