8.6 Blackout

[treillw]

Just came across the 8.6 blackout. Seems quite cool.

The fix is a nice rifle too, but the price tag is a little salty. Especially with you add in a can and tax stamps.

Any cheaper ways to get a similar package?

Hard for me to justify that much money on a rifle that is just for fun.

Any real world experience with this cartridge yet? Seems like it's brand new and hasn't been released yet from what I've read.

Thanks!

 

[treillw]

How long is the tax stamp wait for a sbr? Same as a can?

Good cans to pair with the 8.6?

 

[treillw]

375 raptor have better ballistics?

 

[beetroot]

It’s been out for a little while, although rifle options have been very limited and manufacturer support from ammo/component very limited.

I’m still not convinced it doesn’t do anything 308 does other than putting a lot more energy on target, if energy is what you need then it makes sense otherwise your just paying more for projectiles.

Unless you are definitely going to run subsonics it’s not worth the hassle IMO, even then it seems like there aren’t the subsonic projectile options that were “promised” from manufacturers. Whereas you can right now get 200gr+ 30cal projectiles.

 

[E. Bryant]

Here's the previous reference thread on this topic:

8.6 BLK, The Caliber For Advanced Years.

It hurts to carry a ruck @ 19 years old and I find that as I age the attributes of being an effective soldier seem to become much harder to maintain. Force multipliers have a special place in all men's heart and thank God that the team that gave 300 BLK legs have gone twice as effective and I am...

www.snipershide.com

So good, I'm surprised it's not a sticky.

 

[treillw]

Here's the previous reference thread on this topic:

8.6 BLK, The Caliber For Advanced Years.

It hurts to carry a ruck @ 19 years old and I find that as I age the attributes of being an effective soldier seem to become much harder to maintain. Force multipliers have a special place in all men's heart and thank God that the team that gave 300 BLK legs have gone twice as effective and I am...

www.snipershide.com

So good, I'm surprised it's not a sticky.

Wow, what a trainwreck.

 

[Isha Tsumi]

The fact that they totally hyped it and nothing is available tells me it's not the magic bullet they thought it was.

 

[treillw]

Here's the previous reference thread on this topic:

8.6 BLK, The Caliber For Advanced Years.

It hurts to carry a ruck @ 19 years old and I find that as I age the attributes of being an effective soldier seem to become much harder to maintain. Force multipliers have a special place in all men's heart and thank God that the team that gave 300 BLK legs have gone twice as effective and I am...

www.snipershide.com

So good, I'm surprised it's not a sticky.

I read/speed read through all of that hoping to get some useful information.

 

[E. Bryant]

I read/speed read through all of that hoping to get some useful information.

I did some math on the overhyped claim of massive rotational energy. That was pretty cool. But otherwise, it was mostly a waste of time.

 

[DacianMH]

It’s been out for a little while, although rifle options have been very limited and manufacturer support from ammo/component very limited.

I’m still not convinced it doesn’t do anything 308 does other than putting a lot more energy on target, if energy is what you need then it makes sense otherwise your just paying more for projectiles.

Unless you are definitely going to run subsonics it’s not worth the hassle IMO, even then it seems like there aren’t the subsonic projectile options that were “promised” from manufacturers. Whereas you can right now get 200gr+ 30cal projectiles.

It doesn’t put more energy out than 308. It’s the opposite…but in subsonic vs subsonic form it beats the 308 but not in supersonic form...not even close.

 

[DacianMH]

It’s been out for a little while, although rifle options have been very limited and manufacturer support from ammo/component very limited.

I’m still not convinced it doesn’t do anything 308 does other than putting a lot more energy on target, if energy is what you need then it makes sense otherwise your just paying more for projectiles.

Unless you are definitely going to run subsonics it’s not worth the hassle IMO, even then it seems like there aren’t the subsonic projectile options that were “promised” from manufacturers. Whereas you can right now get 200gr+ 30cal projectiles.

There’s 350gr Maker Rex subsonic expanders available. I load them for resale.

 

[DacianMH]

Just came across the 8.6 blackout. Seems quite cool.

The fix is a nice rifle too, but the price tag is a little salty. Especially with you add in a can and tax stamps.

Any cheaper ways to get a similar package?

Hard for me to justify that much money on a rifle that is just for fun.

Any real world experience with this cartridge yet? Seems like it's brand new and hasn't been released yet from what I've read.

Thanks!

Yes, there are several great options. You can do a Remington 700 with a Remage and keep the price down quite a bit. I manufacture the ammo for resale and it’s earned a like spot in my heart for suppressed hunting. I have one customer that’s successfully harvested elk with his. I even built a custom Sig Cross in 8.6 and it’s a success…cycles and feeds without issue.

 

[408w]

What twist rate is needed for the 350g maker bullets your loading with a 16” Barrel

 

[DacianMH]

What twist rate is needed for the 350g maker bullets your loading with a 16” Barrel

Minimum 1:7 but i have a 1:6.5 and the 350s are stable.

 

[Bacarrat]

Big thing right now would be the barrels. Hardly anyone is making a fast twist 338 barrel blank.

 

[DacianMH]

Big thing right now would be the barrels. Hardly anyone is making a fast twist 338 barrel blank.

Actually, Mos-Tek is making them. In 1:3, 1.6.5, and pretty much almost any platform from BigHorn’s to Sig Crosses to Impact 737’s, savage small shanks, and even standard shouldered Remington 700’s. I will tell you the 1:3 is more of a marketing hype, and the one thing I have come to realize with that fast a twist is if you sling the Maker 350gr Rex passed 1060 fps the bullets will open before they exit the barrel.

 

[DacianMH]

It’s been out for a little while, although rifle options have been very limited and manufacturer support from ammo/component very limited.

I’m still not convinced it doesn’t do anything 308 does other than putting a lot more energy on target, if energy is what you need then it makes sense otherwise your just paying more for projectiles.

Unless you are definitely going to run subsonics it’s not worth the hassle IMO, even then it seems like there aren’t the subsonic projectile options that were “promised” from manufacturers. Whereas you can right now get 200gr+ 30cal projectiles.

There are 350gr Maker Rex expanding subsonics, 285gr Controlled Fracturing bullets and I believe one other one if you're wanting a hunting subsonic bullet that will expand in the lower velocity range. The 350gr M-Rex being the best option.