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Would you mind providing a little more detail about how it wasn't what you hoped it was going to be?Not what I hoped for. Gunbroker next.
Not in 9mm which is what he was looking for.Why not just get a ruger 77
already comes in pistol calibers
I know that but the magazines and action are a better fit for 9mm then other actions mentioned in this threadNot in 9mm which is what he was looking for.
Ok, thats a huge update. I had encourage him to look at push feed as opposed to control feed. I'd love to get this thing working, but as it is, it basically is just sitting in the safe. With mine, the ejector would often just punch through the rim of the cartridge, if everything wasn't perfectly aligned. I desperately want a 9mm bolt trainer, especially with how ammo prices have gone.Sent mine back and got a refund because It wouldn't feed or eject properly. I think he is going to change to a push feed instead of controlled round feed. Seems like a really nice guy and I hope he gets it figured out.
We're not looking for zero recoil, and decent .22 LR isn't much cheaper than 9mm in my neck of the woods. Plus 9mm has a longer effective range for how I plan on using it. I want the ability to train quietly, not not spend 300 BO prices.This seems fucking retarded. Just buy a damn 22. It doesn’t really have much worse ballistics, it’s even cheaper to shoot, zero recoil, and they actually feed.
We're not looking for zero recoil, and decent .22 LR isn't much cheaper than 9mm in my neck of the woods. Plus 9mm has a longer effective range for how I plan on using it. I want the ability to train quietly, not not spend 300 BO prices.
I started this whole thread because I bumped into a 9mm rifle and thought it was interesting for the following reasons:What training are you doing with a 9mm bolt gun that you can’t do with a 22?
Unless you’re talking the high end Lapua stuff 22 match ammo can be had for like 25% of the price of bulk 9mm FMJ. Ammo that will shoot .5” groups at 50 yards… you’re not doing that with bulk 9mm.
I started this whole thread because I bumped into a 9mm rifle and thought it was interesting for the following reasons:
All in all, I thought it looked interesting. Still considering buying one if he gets all the bugs worked out.
- Good 22 LR ammo is anywhere from 25 cents to 40 cents a round which is in the same price range as plenty of 9mm ammo
- I have lots of 9mm ammo on hand so I thought it was kinda cool that one cartridge can be used for multiple things
- It uses Glock mags which are cheap and widely available
- If someone is shooting suppressed (I can't because I am a CA resident) it will provide much better terminal performance than 22 LR
I have no idea how 9mm, shitty or otherwise would shoot compared to 22LR but was curious to find out. It also would be fun to see just how good I could roll my own 9mm, perhaps I can even beat the high end 22 stuff for cheaper. After all, I already own all the gear for my rifle reloading.Again, quoting absolute premium 22 prices and comparing it to shitty 9mm, that’s not a fair comparison. If you think any 9mm other than maybe lapua is going to shoot as accurately as high quality 22 then you’re sadly mistaken. Also you can find plenty of very good 22 like Norma match and tac, CCI SV, Eley target, Wolf, etc for $.10/rd or less. Quality brass case 9mm is currently running $.30-40/round right now and it’s far from match ammo. It’s not the same price.
Only to a certain degree, I have plenty of .22lr rifles or .223's that will shoot remarkably well regardless of what crap ammo you put in them. Can’t say the same for 9mm PCC's except for oddball exceptions like Wilsons ar-9It’s your ammo that’s holding back your accuracy. Not usually your rifle. Especially when it comes to your pistol calibers. Because you don’t have a grasp on how pistol ammo is loaded commercially.
I went down the rabbit hole almost 20yrs ago.
Xtps and n320 In new brass with whatever primer. Follow the same practices with your rifle ammo.