A Jew a Zionist walk into a bar.

burnden of proof is on you


And it 100% has zero connection to the star of david.

I made no claim that it does or doesn't, no burden here.

You're the one making a claim to have specific and accurate knowledge of symbolic origins. (symbolistic origins?)

Don't turn yourself into a joke. ETA: I've been informed it's too late.

Pony up with data to back your claims or stop diluting the value of your word by emphatically stating bullshit you can't prove.
 
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I made no claim that does is or doesn't, no burden here.

You're the one making a claim to have specific and accurate knowledge of symbolic origins. (symbolistic origins?)

Don't turn yourself into a joke.

Pony up with data to back your claims or stop diluting the value of your word by emphatically stating bullshit you can't prove.
Just remember, he posted naked pictures of himself with suspenders. This retard Glows so hard I think he is neon. 99.99% sure he is here on assignment.
 
Just remember, he posted naked pictures of himself with suspenders.

Y'all keep saying that.

My mind fights against believing it but if any of you attempt to provide a link I will choose to believe it before ever clicking the link.

Edited the previous post with appropriate acknowledgement.
 
Scriptures never wrong. Maybe it’s time for “Christians” to study up so they can make sure they know who’s side they’re actually on, cuz right now it’s pretty obvious who’s pulling those strings..


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I made no claim that it does or doesn't, no burden here.

You're the one making a claim to have specific and accurate knowledge of symbolic origins. (symbolistic origins?)

Don't turn yourself into a joke. ETA: I've been informed it's too late.

Pony up with data to back your claims or stop diluting the value of your word by emphatically stating bullshit you can't prove.
I have already provided the proof.

You failed to absorb it.

You must stay drunk all day.
 
Just remember, he posted naked pictures of himself with suspenders. This retard Glows so hard I think he is neon. 99.99% sure he is here on assignment.
No way! After being called out for messaging me, I get one more....and can't unsee it.

THESE green suspenders? This is starting to get creepy...

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Hows feel to be a lying piece of shit?

Don’t let them drag you down to their level brosef.

These guys are no more righteous or deserving of grace and mercy than the people they hate.

They’ve missed the point of the Gospel.
 
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...as thou judges. Sweet, delicious irony.

I’m just as undeserving bubba. When you truly know that, and see yourself for what you actually are in the light of the gift you’ve been given, your view of others and how you treat them will change too.

Take care bud.
 
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You will know them by their fruit..

Not my words. Take care bud.
Since you, too, wanted to turn it on me, I'll suit up and come off the bench, champ.

Is that what the guy down in the strip-mall (or the creeper in those asinine videos you keep linking, along with your ChatGPT Gospels) taught you about salvation?

Who the fuck are you to determine who is deserving of grace? Really, "brosef?"

Take care, bud. 👊
 
That’s a a partial. Now combine that with Roman’s 11 to get the full picture regarding how God feels about the Jews. You are right, im not into arguing with you anymore, and I think we agree that unless Jews accept Christ, they’ll end up in a not great place.

The disagreement between us, is whether or not God has turned His back on the Jews for ever or if He still has a plan for the Jews and Israel in the end times. End times prophecy would Indicate that to be a yes, and He will protect them until then in an effort to save a remnant of them (that accepts Christ) for Himself because said He would. That does not bode well for anyone that opposes them. That’s not a fear of Israel but a healthy fear of God. Throughout history it never has gone well for anybody opposing Israel when they had Gods blessing. Now, If they don’t accept Christ, they’ll end up in the same place as everyone else will who fails to accept Christ as their savior.

Theology is whatever. Can debate it endlessly. Salvation and how to get it is the core and the most important message that we have to get right. And that only comes through faith in Christ. Works and obedience will be evidence of that. That would include loving them dirty joo’s.. 🤣

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These guys refuse to read Romans 11. Or just plain ignore it. Written by Paul after Christ ascended. Shoots their whole “theory” to dust. He’s stuck in his “they’re Satan” argument.

We did not replace the Jews. We were grafted into the original covenant with the Jews to make them jealous as to return them to Christ. Were the branches grafted in. It’s pretty dang clear.
You accused me of being ascribed to “replacement” theology in the CK thread. I had already apologized in that thread for what little argument I was involved in so I didn’t respond.

I don’t believe the (C)hurch replaced Israel or that Gentiles became “chosen” or any of what you perhaps think.

The Church is a new creation. It is made up of believers from all stripes. It didn’t displace Israel it is a result of Christ becoming the literal Israel Himself. His Church becomes the “bloodline”.

The Law WAS the Old Covenant and Christ fulfilled the Law. He IS the New Covenant. His Law is written on our hearts.

I describe it as a Baker making a cake. He chooses eggs (israel) and incorporates them with other ingredients (gentiles) and the end result is new. Eggs don’t disappear. They are still eggs but they are no longer recognizable or known as eggs. All these different ingredients are combined to the joy and will of the baker and the end result is His Cake.


I am not against “Jews”. I believe the state of Israel (now that is already established) has a right to exist and defend itself. I do not believe the US should prop them up financially or fight it’s wars.

The current state of Israel as a fulfillment of prophecy is entirely laughable. They are in exile and scattered. The assertion that their “success” is proof of God’s will is one of the most ludicrous statements ever.
 
You accused me of being ascribed to “replacement” theology in the CK thread. I had already apologized in that thread for what little argument I was involved in so I didn’t respond.

I don’t believe the (C)hurch replaced Israel or that Gentiles became “chosen” or any of what you perhaps think.

The Church is a new creation. It is made up of believers from all stripes. It didn’t displace Israel it is a result of Christ becoming the literal Israel Himself. His Church becomes the “bloodline”.

The Law WAS the Old Covenant and Christ fulfilled the Law. He IS the New Covenant. His Law is written on our hearts.

I describe it as a Baker making a cake. He chooses eggs (israel) and incorporates them with other ingredients (gentiles) and the end result is new. Eggs don’t disappear. They are still eggs but they are no longer recognizable or known as eggs. All these different ingredients are combined to the joy and will of the baker and the end result is His Cake.


I am not against “Jews”. I believe the state of Israel (now that is already established) has a right to exist and defend itself. I do not believe the US should prop them up financially or fight it’s wars.

The current state of Israel as a fulfillment of prophecy is entirely laughable. They are in exile and scattered. The assertion that their “success” is proof of God’s will is one of the most ludicrous statements ever.

First. That wasn’t directed at you, but fair enough. And I’m not an dispensationalist apart from literal biblical translations and that God still has a plan for Israel, thats as far as that goes.

Apart from your last paragraph, Id say we’re fairly close in our views. As far as that last part, it wouldn’t be the first time Christian’s disagreed on theology. There’s plenty that agree and plenty that disagree. We can agree to disagree.
 
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You accused me of being ascribed to “replacement” theology in the CK thread. I had already apologized in that thread for what little argument I was involved in so I didn’t respond.

I don’t believe the (C)hurch replaced Israel or that Gentiles became “chosen” or any of what you perhaps think.

The Church is a new creation. It is made up of believers from all stripes. It didn’t displace Israel it is a result of Christ becoming the literal Israel Himself. His Church becomes the “bloodline”.

The Law WAS the Old Covenant and Christ fulfilled the Law. He IS the New Covenant. His Law is written on our hearts.

I describe it as a Baker making a cake. He chooses eggs (israel) and incorporates them with other ingredients (gentiles) and the end result is new. Eggs don’t disappear. They are still eggs but they are no longer recognizable or known as eggs. All these differences ingredients are combined to the joy and will of the baker and the end result is His Cake.


I am not against “Jews”. I believe the state of Israel (now that is already established) has a right to exist and defend itself. I do not believe the US should prop them up financially or fight it’s wars.

The current state of Israel as a fulfillment of prophecy is entirely laughable. They are in exile and scattered. The assertion that their “success” is proof of God’s will is one of the most ludicrous statements ever.
My brother in Christ.

I swear I sense you are good people, sir, so I am going to 'unwatch' this one and let you guys duke it out in here, as I take issue with the majority of the posts that are damn near heresies in this amusing thread. :)

...but you raised a flag with the assertion that the Church (you often do that "(C)hurch" move, like Jews do "G-D" I see) "is a new creation."

By new, do you mean 32AD new or like 1830 new? I ask, as Christ Church is not a "new creation" by any theological stretch, sir.

Peace be with you. (And even with the Gringo. I hope he finds gay love and inner peace one day).
 
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My brother in Christ.

I swear I sense you are good people, sir, so I am going to 'unwatch' this one and let you guys duke it out in here, as I take issue with the majority of the posts that are damn near heresies in this amusing thread. :)

...but you raised a flag with the assertion that the Church (you often do that "(C)hurch" move, like Jews do "G-D" I see) "is a new creation."

By new, do you mean 32AD new or like 1830 new? I ask, as Christ Church is not a "new creation" by any theological stretch, sir.

Peace be with you. (And even with the Gringo. I hope he finds gay love and inner peace one day).
I mean “new” in relation to the former people in covenant with the Father … IE Israel. The (C)hurch is the people of the New Covenant.

I emphasize the “c” as capitalized or lower case to distinguish between Christ’s Church which is capitalized vs. local bodies or “denominations” which should be lower case. I have found that some do not know this distinction.
 
Nice wiki ...

Now show proof the symbol for the star of Remphan wasn't six pointed.

I have already provided the proof.

You did not.

You provided only your opinions which you seem to habitually and emphatically represent as "fact" or "proof".

It is generally accepted that the Star of David and the Start of Remphan were both six pointed.

Now, guess which one came first.
 
No way! After being called out for messaging me, I get one more....and can't unsee it.

THESE green suspenders? This is starting to get creepy...

I said "A LINK" you faggot !

Now I have to add a script to tampermonkey to make it skip this page entirely.

Don't make me send you the tub girls because I WILL send you the tub girls.
 
I mean “new” in relation to the former people in covenant with the Father … IE Israel. The (C)hurch is the people of the New Covenant.

I emphasize the “c” as capitalized or lower case to distinguish between Christ’s Church which is capitalized vs. local bodies or “denominations” which should be lower case. I have found that some do not know this distinction.
Analogous to the Methodists using small "c" catholic when (re)writing the Nicene Creed on the back of their Baptismal certificates? :)

Nothing by love nonetheless, sir...God bless.
 
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And I’m not an dispensationalist apart from literal biblical translations and that God still has a plan for Israel, thats as far as that goes.
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You mentioned RC Sproul as a good source of information on these issues. Here is His definition of Dispensationalism.

Premillennial Dispensationalism: God’s Special Purpose for Israel

Although premillennial dispensationalism is a relatively new viewpoint in the history of Christian theology, its position on God’s special purpose for Israel has shaped, even dominated, recent debates among evangelical Christians on the relationship between the church and Israel.

In classic dispensationalism, God has two distinct peoples: an earthly people, Israel, and a heavenly people, the church. According to dispensationalism, God administers the course of the history of redemption by means of seven successive dispensations or redemptive economies. During each dispensation, God tests human beings by a distinct revelation of His will. Among these seven dispensations, the three most important are the dispensation of law, the dispensation of the gospel, and the dispensation of the kingdom. While it is not possible in a short essay like this to describe all the distinctives of these dispensations, what is important is dispensationalism’s insistence that God has a separate purpose and a distinct manner of dealing with His earthly people, Israel. During the present era, the dispensation of the church, God has “suspended” His special purposes for Israel and turned His attention, in a manner of speaking, to the gathering of the gentile peoples through the proclamation of the gospel of Jesus Christ to all the nations. However, when Christ returns at any moment to “rapture” the church prior to a seven-year period of great tribulation, He will resume God’s special program for Israel. This tribulation period will be a prelude to the commencement of the future dispensation of a one thousand-year kingdom upon the earth. For dispensationalism, the millennium marks the period during which God’s promises to Israel, His earthly people, will receive a distinct, literal fulfillment. Only at the end of the dispensation of the millennial kingdom will Christ finally vanquish all of His enemies and introduce the final state.

Though dispensationalism acknowledges that all people, whether Jews or gentiles, are saved by faith in the one Mediator, Jesus Christ, it maintains a clear and permanent distinction between Israel and the church within the purposes of God. The promises of the Old Testament are not fulfilled through the gathering of the church of Jesus Christ from among all the peoples of the earth. These promises are given to an earthly, ethnically distinct people, Israel, and they will be fulfilled in a literal manner only during the dispensation of the kingdom that follows the present dispensation of the gospel.



What if any of this do you not align with? This isn’t an indictment, just want to understand you.
 
RC’s definition of the Reformed view of which he ascribes

The Traditional Reformed View: One People of God​

Contrary to dispensationalism’s sharp demarcation between God’s two peoples, Israel and the church, historic Reformed theology insists on the unity of God’s redemptive program throughout history. When Adam, the covenant head and representative of the human race, fell into sin, all human beings as his posterity became liable to condemnation and death (Rom. 5:12–21). By virtue of Adam’s sin and its implications for the entire human race, all people became subject to the curse of the law and heirs of a sinfully corrupt nature.

According to the traditional Reformed interpretation of Scripture, God initiated the covenant of grace after the fall in order to restore His chosen people to communion and fellowship with Himself. While the covenant of grace is administered diversely throughout the course of the history of redemption, it remains one in substance from the time of its formal ratification with Abraham until the coming of Christ in the fullness of time. In all of the various administrations of the covenant of grace, God redeems His people through faith in Jesus Christ, the one Mediator of the covenant of grace, through whom believers receive the gift of eternal life and restored communion with the living God.1

The seed promised to Abraham in the covenant of grace is Jesus Christ, the true Israel, and all who through faith are united to Him and, thus, heirs of the covenant promises.
In the Reformed understanding of the history of redemption, therefore, there is no ultimate separation between Israel and the church. The promise God made to Abraham in the formal ratification of the covenant of grace (Gen. 12; Gen. 15; Gen. 17), namely, that he would be the father of many nations and that in his “seed” all the families of the earth would be blessed, finds its fulfillment in Jesus Christ. The seed promised to Abraham in the covenant of grace is Jesus Christ, the true Israel, and all who through faith are united to Him and, thus, heirs of the covenant promises (Gal. 3:16, 29). In the Reformed view, the gospel of Jesus Christ directly fulfills the promises of the covenant of grace for all believers, whether Jews or Gentiles. Israel and the church are not two distinct peoples; rather, the church is the true Israel of God, "a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession" (1 Peter 2:9).
 
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Then there are “dirty Dispensationalists” who hold Reformed views except that Israel will still somehow receive the land promised.

John MacArthur was in this camp.

Full disclosure I adored JM other than this point and loved to see he and RC spar over such issues.
 
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You did not.

You provided only your opinions which you seem to habitually and emphatically represent as "fact" or "proof".

It is generally accepted that the Star of David and the Start of Remphan were both six pointed.

Now, guess which one came first.
i listed 3 links explaining it. Obvious you did not read them


You used the term 6 pointed. I never did.


So that is on you.
 
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100% America first. 🇺🇸

I also believe allied relationships should be a 2 way street. Mutually beneficial.m to both parties. Defense / Trade etc, etc.
What does the United States get out of the relationship with Israel? Everyone says that they are a "strategic partner" in the region but no one can say how they are. What are they bringing to the table?
 
Do you believe our county is any better when it comes to turning our backs on God? 50+ million murdered babies in and still counting. Do you believe we are any better when it comes to pushing leftist liberal ideals on other country’s and involving ourselves in their politics and policy’s? CIA operations and funding to organize coups in country’s to establish leadership more inline with our (some of our) agendas. Is our county any better when if comes to political corruption? Is there a county in existence that is? What separates Israel from any of our allies in that regard apart from Israel not being a punk and holding a strategic position in the Middle East? What’s the alternative? Would it be better for us if they were overrun by Iran or any of the Muslim counties in that region? Should we allow that?

Im just opposed to is demonizing an entire race of people with falsehood and / or twisted truths and wide brushes and then trying to do some kind of mental backflip to explain how it’s not racist while using the very same type of cartoon art and spewing the same propaganda Hitler used to desensitize an entire country to the humanity of Jews to the point they had no issue trying to exterminate them from the planet. Kinda like the left labeling MAGA and as Fascist Nazi’s and leftist gobbling it all up. Are there some? Yeah, we got shitheads to. Is it the majority? Nope. Far from it. That Didn’t keep some brainwashed jackass from putting a bullet in Charlie though.

Disagreeing with policy / funding etc etc is one thing and totally legit. we can and should put America first. We can also be an ally to Israel without kissing the ground they walk on and blessing their every move. I don’t even do that with my country. We’re probably in agreement on that.
That's a lot of diversion to not answer why we are rewarding a people that are being punished by God.
 
What does the United States get out of the relationship with Israel? Everyone says that they are a "strategic partner" in the region but no one can say how they are. What are they bringing to the table?

Gaveriel Iddan

A camera, so you can look inside your rectum. So you don't have to walk around with your head shoved up your ass.


Serious contributions to the defense industry.

Shared intel in the region.

Protection of the holy lands so the hords don't destroy it.

Keeper of the only land bridge connecting Africa to Asia.

Computer chips, First on used by IBM.

Facial ID used on Apple software.

USB flash drives.

There is a ton of shit they have contributed. Google Israeli inventions.
 
What does the United States get out of the relationship with Israel? Everyone says that they are a "strategic partner" in the region but no one can say how they are. What are they bringing to the table?

Military presence I think.
 
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