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    Before you go lableing it 'Lefttard" read to the last statement by Albert Einstein which ties it all together.

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    Did you know that the right brain develops first? It does so by the time children are 3-4 years of age. The left brain, on the other hand, doesn’t fully come online until children are approximately seven years old; hence the first seven years being recognized as such a critical period in child development.

    “Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.” ~ Albert Einstein
    The left brain’s functionality is one of language, numeracy, literacy, analysis and time. It is the logical, calculating, planning, busy-bee part of us that keeps us anchored in the pragmatic world, and in past and future. The right brain, on the other hand, is responsible for empathy, intuition, imagination and creativity. It is where we wonder, dream, connect and come alive. Through the right brain we dwell in the space of no-time, in being absolutely present. While the left brain is more interested in outcomes or product, the right brain cares much more about process—the journey is what matters, not the destination.

    But there is one more vital piece to understand: The right brain connects us to our boundless sense of being. Being is primary; hence the right brain developing first; hence, human being, not human doing. The left brain is far more interested in doing. Young right-brain dominant children, by contrast, are quite content being.

    Understanding this we can better appreciate why play is so important in child learning and development, and why we need to be extra careful with the amount and timing of academic agendas created for children; with how much we emphasize product—what kids have accomplished at school—versus process—who they are becoming and what they feel in their explorations. That the right brain develops first is pertinent information for those in the field of education, as well as parents, regarding what is developmentally appropriate. Pushing literacy and numeracy on children before age seven may just be harmful to their little, developing brains. Without the capacity to use their academic minds in the ways that are being asked can cause children to gain what’s called “learned stupidity.” They believe themselves to be incapable and lose their natural desire to learn.

    The push for academia on children is a symptom of a society that is left brain dominant, or forgetful of the wonderful playground that is the right brain. It’s an indicator that we feel safer within the literalness, control and certainty of the left brain, far more than in the unquantifiable and mysterious nature the right brain connects us to.

    You cannot measure the qualitative aspects of imagination, empathy and intuition; but, of course, you can measure the aforementioned practical detail-oriented functions associated with the left brain. Yet the more we push those things that can be measured onto children, the more they will grow up feeling like they don’t measure up!

    Let’s remember that life is less about the tools the left brain excels in and what we accomplish in this world. Rather, life is about being present and connecting with those you love, or those you don’t even know as children do so freely:

    “Walking to the library this morning, I passed on the sidewalk a little child, maybe two years old and his mother”, wrote a friend of mine. “As I neared, the child looked at me, his eyes so alive and present, and when I said ‘Hi’, he stooped and picked up a soggy leaf from the ground and handed it to me. Oh, the abundance and beauty of this world!”
    This is the gift of the right brain. While the left brain sunders life into pieces, the right brain unites. This is why babies sense no distinction between themselves and their environment. All is one!

    These wise little teachers remind us, courtesy of their right brain, that life is about enjoying the little things, about enchantment and surprise; it’s about being present with another, offering them your gentle ear, hearing between the lines, not just what is being said, which is what logic grasps. With the help of the right brain we touch the hidden places in our heart and in the hearts of others, those secret dimensions that give meaning to life.

    The right brain is indeed the playground, or at least, it connects us to it. Let children dwell in this most natural state through their unstructured play, and all its derivatives such as doodling, curiosity, wonder and imagination. People who have a healthy right brain can better use their left brain tools in positive ways. That is the purpose of the left-logical brain: to serve the right brain—doing serves being. Being is the soil from which all our plans, details and actions must flower if we are to experience personal fulfillment and truly contribute to the world.

    “The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.” ~ Albert Einstein
     
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    Sounds like Lev Vygotsky and tools of the mind learning.

    Read up on Mr Vygotsky than ask yourself why would our US school system even for a moment consider his teaching programs.

    In my mind its like taking Mengele's body of work and teaching it at John Hopkins.
     
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    Sounds like Lev Vygotsky and tools of the mind learning.

    Read up on Mr Vygotsky than ask yourself why would our US school system even for a moment consider his teaching programs.

    In my mind its like taking Mengele's body of work and teaching it at John Hopkins.

    I will look up his work.
     
    My kids school was going to implement Tools of the Mind.

    Its about letting the kids form into a group, pick a leader and learn in their group with very little input from adults.

    It had that touchy feely nature too it that "they will explore", "they will experience their feelings"......

    It struck me as inmates running the asylum.

    I went to one seminar on it and in the video presentation first thing that caught my eye was a sudent holding his pencil like a Neanderthal. I recognized it because my son holds his pencil like this despite my nightly asking him to hold his pencil correctly. Problem is when he goes to school the teachers never reinforce it.

    Anyway a woman that is an occupational therapist picked up on the pencil manipulation and asked why the kid wasnt corrected on his mechanics. The answer was they dont want to correct (read teach) the kids they want them to "self learn". The occupational therapist said that child will never unlearn that technique.

    Lev Vygotsky's idea was to create a learning program for the Soviet Union. He was a part of the Red program in Russia from the earliest, coming into disfavor because of Stalins anti semitism and not being on board with his processes.

    The Soviet Union wasnt about independent thought and neither is Lev Vygotsky.
     
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    My kids school was going to implement Tools of the Mind.

    Its about letting the kids form into a group, pick a leader and learn in their group with very little input from adults.

    It had that touchy feely nature too it that "they will explore", "they will experience their feelings"......

    It struck me as inmates running the asylum.

    I went to one seminar on it and in the video presentation first thing that caught my eye was a sudent holding his pencil like a Neanderthal. I recognized it because my son holds his pencil like this despite my nightly asking him to hold his pencil correctly. Problem is when he goes to school the teachers never reinforce it.

    Anyway a woman that is an occupational therapist picked up on the pencil manipulation and asked why the kid wasnt corrected on his mechanics. The answer was they dont want to correct (read teach) the kids they want them to "self learn". The occupational therapist said that child will never unlearn that technique.

    Lev Vygotsky's idea was to create a learning program for the Soviet Union. He was a part of the Red program in Russia from the earliest, coming into disfavor because of Stalins anti semitism and not being on board with his processes.

    The Soviet Union wasnt about independent thought and neither is Lev Vygotsky.
    That's not teaching that is Lord of the flies.
    As children are learning about action/consequence as well as social interaction lack of direction will be disastrous.
    Anyone who has experienced child groups out of guiding hands has seen the cruelty possible.

    R
     
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    That's not teaching that is Lord of the flies.
    As children are learning about action/consequence as well as social interaction lack of direction will be disastrous.
    Anyone who has experienced child groups out of guiding hands has seen the cruelty possible.

    R

    Yes kids are mean bastards.

    I remember being one.

    I remember being in an office with a Maj Gen. that had fought hard in Vietnam. He said the most devastating being he knew was an 18 year old Marine with a KaBar.

    Their is a reason child soldiers and barley adults fight our wars.

    Its more than just stamina.
     
    I'm pretty happy with the way my son is turning out.

    He's almost 3, can differentiate right and left, has the ABC's down, can count to 10 and can identify numbers based on fingers, speaks an occasionally proper English and a slightly less proper Spanish, can name and use a variety of hand tools, can name a variety of swords (he likes swords for whatever reason), and is cautiously fearless. Pretty tough, too. He's also becoming a pretty good climber.

    We're working on phonetics and spelling now. I figure in a year or two he'll be able to peck at a keyboard. I'm pretty sure he'll be able to skin the squirrels he shoots, too.

    In April he's getting his first driving lesson in my XJ. He can already use the blinkers, wipers, and horn on command, and does a fine job working a steering wheel. My XJ in 4-lo on private property is a really good toddler trainer. Almost impossible to stop or stall, and doesn't move very fast at all.

    I don't think I'm going to cut down my savage Mk 2 to fit him just yet, but I'll get it close enough so he can get some trigger time in. I got him a rubber band gun a while back and have been working on proper form. It's pretty cool seeing that kid launch rubber bands at a target I call out that is between 4 and 10 feet away and see him hit it most of the time. So far he doesn't act like the clueless kids I've known. He's very deliberate about things, and follows instructions well.

    The best is just letting him loose, though. The shit he finds entertaining is really entertaining for me. He gets all worked up and excited about the simplest shit.
     
    Yes kids are mean bastards.

    I remember being one.

    I remember being in an office with a Maj Gen. that had fought hard in Vietnam. He said the most devastating being he knew was an 18 year old Marine with a KaBar.

    Their is a reason child soldiers and barley adults fight our wars.

    Its more than just stamina.
    Agreed.
    An example of "teaching" around my local a while back:
    My middle daughter was more energetic, easily bored non-reader.
    One end of the year "teacher" says she needs summer school to get her back to paridy.
    We consent, she has a good time with more one on one and straight A's.
    Two weeks into new school year "teacher' calls and thinks #2 daughter needs placed into remedial class.
    I ask WTF did we do all summer? crickets
    I take task to hand, she graduated University @ Summa Cum Laude.
    Moral of my story, schools can get serious coin for "special" kids.
    Meanwhile kid takes a fucking at public ed.

    R
     
    I'm pretty happy with the way my son is turning out.

    He's almost 3, can differentiate right and left, has the ABC's down, can count to 10 and can identify numbers based on fingers, speaks an occasionally proper English and a slightly less proper Spanish, can name and use a variety of hand tools, can name a variety of swords (he likes swords for whatever reason), and is cautiously fearless. Pretty tough, too. He's also becoming a pretty good climber.

    We're working on phonetics and spelling now. I figure in a year or two he'll be able to peck at a keyboard. I'm pretty sure he'll be able to skin the squirrels he shoots, too.

    In April he's getting his first driving lesson in my XJ. He can already use the blinkers, wipers, and horn on command, and does a fine job working a steering wheel. My XJ in 4-lo on private property is a really good toddler trainer. Almost impossible to stop or stall, and doesn't move very fast at all.

    I don't think I'm going to cut down my savage Mk 2 to fit him just yet, but I'll get it close enough so he can get some trigger time in. I got him a rubber band gun a while back and have been working on proper form. It's pretty cool seeing that kid launch rubber bands at a target I call out that is between 4 and 10 feet away and see him hit it most of the time. So far he doesn't act like the clueless kids I've known. He's very deliberate about things, and follows instructions well.

    The best is just letting him loose, though. The shit he finds entertaining is really entertaining for me. He gets all worked up and excited about the simplest shit.

    Look for a Winchester 67A "Boys Rifle".

    It blows away by far any kids beginner rifle out there.

    Just refinished the walnut on both my kids rifles and added M1907 style slings.

    Photos over in Vintage section page three of my Model 70 thread.
     
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    Look for a Winchester 67A "Boys Rifle".

    It blows away by far any kids beginner rifle out there.

    Just refinished the walnut on both my kids rifles and added M1907 style slings.

    Photos over in Vintage section page three of my Model 70 thread.

    Way to take a thread about the brains of kids and make it about guns :rolleyes:

    Just kidding, my father has a model 67 he grew up with in a shadowbox. I'm holding out for the moment when he wants to see his grandboy shoot it bad enough that he lets me fix it. From the way he describes how it failed years and years ago, I'd guess it has a busted firing pin. I don't think anyone has run it since the 60s. The pins I've seen as replacements are ~$30-40 shipped. I'm good with that, since as far as I can tell, it's a terrible design that would be hard to make by hand.

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    If it's like that, I figure my best option would be to get some small round stock, cut off and drill out a bit of the face where it used to sit, then hand file the round stock and weld it in there somehow. That or get a new one. I've never seen it outside of the shadowbox though, so I dunno what is actually wrong with it. I know I can fix it, though.

    For now, the Mk2 ought to take care of the .22LR needs, and I've got a handful of youth shotguns including a single shot .410 and a Remington model 11.

    If for whatever reason my dad won't compromise on getting that gun back in action, then I'll pick one up. I'm really underwhelmed with the current offerings on single shot .22s like the Cricket. Complete POS IMO.

    I can understand being sentimental, hell I am sentimental, but not to the point I'd call it dead just 'cause.
     
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    Did you let your kids in on the action?

    Also, can you take a pic of the firing pin from the top one?

    They are both same rifles....not 67, they are 67A.

    Length of pull is 12 inches and barrels are only about 16 inches long. You are right....Crickets are shit. These are adult rifles to kid dimensions. We expected more of kids in the 40s and assumed they wanted good gear just as the adults did.

    For some reason Winchester couldn't/wouldnt make stocks to the same dimensions.

    Give me some time to break one out of the safe and strip it down for a firing pin photo.

    Pretty sure Ive seen the FPs or other bolt parts for sale on Ebay.

    There were probably a shot ton of 67s built, not so many 67A. Parts are interchangeable betwixt the two.
     
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    Regards your Dads 67......

    These rifles bind up pretty quick when the oil gets dry.

    My kids guns tend to sit for a bit. Last time we had it out camping I had to pour Coleman fuel white gas on the bolt to disolve the dried Hoppes. Before doing that the gun would just click, after BANG.
     
    They are both same rifles....not 67, they are 67A.

    Length of pull is 12 inches and barrels are only about 16 inches long.

    For some reason Winchester couldn't/wouldnt make stocks to the same dimensions.

    Give me some time to break one out of the safe and strip it down for a firing pin photo.

    Pretty sure Ive seen the FPs or other bolt parts for sale on Ebay.

    There were probably a shot ton of 67s built, not so many 67A. Parts are interchangeable betwixt the two.

    I'd surely appreciate it!
     
    Bitches, you completely derailed my thread.:love: You know Id never do such a thing. Not even to Veer.:ROFLMAO:

    Getting it back on track, all that beautiful work on the rifle, is that right brain (artistic side) or left brain (logic/mechanical side) or have we encountered a breaching of the corpus collosium, allowing both to be employed concurently.

    If you need to re read the article, Ive got time.

    Magggggggot Oat.