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Suppressors AAC Cyclone vs. SAS SS

RJ1670

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I'm going to be going into my first NFA transaction within the next month or two. I have been doing a lot of reading and had figured on getting an SAS stainless 308 suppressor for my R700. My dealer stocks AAC and was trying to talk me into the Cyclone instead. The Cyclone is about $200 more expensive. Would it be worth it to buy the in stock Cyclone over the SAS?
 
#2
Re: AAC Cyclone vs. SAS SS

If you are willing to wait then get the SAS if that is what you really want. I would have to say that the Cyclone is really hard to beat in terms of noise suppression for a screw on suppressor. I think it's one of the more underrated suppressors on the market.
 
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Re: AAC Cyclone vs. SAS SS

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bacarrat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you are willing to wait then get the SAS if that is what you really want. I would have to say that the Cyclone is really hard to beat in terms of noise suppression for a screw on suppressor. I think it's one of the more underrated suppressors on the market. </div></div>

Excuse my ignorance, but how much more of a wait would normally be expected? Does it have to do with SAS getting it shipped to my dealer?
 
#5
Re: AAC Cyclone vs. SAS SS

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: skinney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the AAC cyclone i had made my ears ring compared to my other cans, although the accuracy was very good..., never had a SAS to compare to. </div></div>

Is there anything else in the $600-$800 price range that you would recommend based on your experiences?
 
#6
Re: AAC Cyclone vs. SAS SS

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RJ1670</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bacarrat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you are willing to wait then get the SAS if that is what you really want. I would have to say that the Cyclone is really hard to beat in terms of noise suppression for a screw on suppressor. I think it's one of the more underrated suppressors on the market. </div></div>

Excuse my ignorance, but how much more of a wait would normally be expected? Does it have to do with SAS getting it shipped to my dealer? </div></div>

About a month wait if SAS has the suppressor in stock.

As for the Cyclone and ringing ears, compared to what? It's probably one of the quietest 30 cal suppressors on the market.
 
#7
Re: AAC Cyclone vs. SAS SS

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bacarrat</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RJ1670</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bacarrat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you are willing to wait then get the SAS if that is what you really want. I would have to say that the Cyclone is really hard to beat in terms of noise suppression for a screw on suppressor. I think it's one of the more underrated suppressors on the market. </div></div>

Excuse my ignorance, but how much more of a wait would normally be expected? Does it have to do with SAS getting it shipped to my dealer? </div></div>

About a month wait if SAS has the suppressor in stock.

As for the Cyclone and ringing ears, compared to what? It's probably one of the quietest 30 cal suppressors on the market. </div></div>


If you don't mind me asking one more stupid question, what's the reason for the month wait?
 
#8
Re: AAC Cyclone vs. SAS SS

Find a dealer that stocks SAS cans, otherwise the wait could be longer than you anticipate. Example, I purchased a SAS can that was on the shelf at the manufacture in the beginning of Sept. it was approved for transfer OCT 22 and arrived at my dealer on Nov 25th, IIRC. I submitted it to NFA and the check cashed on DEC 6. I hope to have the can in hand by the end of JAN, but it could be much later. By finding a in stock unit at a dealer near by you could side step the couple month dealer to dealer transfer process.
 
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Re: AAC Cyclone vs. SAS SS

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RJ1670</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Is there anything else in the $600-$800 price range that you would recommend based on your experiences? </div></div>
I prefer titanium but thats a bit more $$$, i've had great success with the gemtech HVT, and know a few others very happy with the YHM phantom.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bacarrat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As for the Cyclone and ringing ears, compared to what? It's probably one of the quietest 30 cal suppressors on the market. </div></div>
Opinions vary, compared to the HVT, Phantom, DAW, SRT, and KAC (mk11 mod0 QD) i would compare the cyclone to the mk11 mod0, i have never measured the db's but in my experience the aac and kac may be good cans, just not what i was expecting in sound reduction.
 
#12
Re: AAC Cyclone vs. SAS SS

You will be waiting 3-4 months for the NFA Division to approve your tax stamp,sometimes longer. If your SOT has the can you want in stock, then you just send out the paperwork for the stamp to the NFA Division, if your SOT has to order the can, you cannot send off the paperwork until your SOT has the can in their possession, as they have to transfer it from either the manufacture or another SOT who has it; ie: longer wait time.

Generally speaking, if the can manufacture has you can in stock and ready to ship it will usually take about a month to transfer to your SOT, if not it could be as long as it takes for them to manufacture it, then a month to transfer. If another SOT has the can you want in stock, then its about a month to transfer to your SOT plus whatever your SOT charges for the transfer.

I personally have a AAC Cyclone K, and it is a great can. If your SOT has either the Cyclone K or Cyclone in stock, you won't be disappointed.
 
#13
Re: AAC Cyclone vs. SAS SS

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Witch Doctor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">you won't be disappointed. </div></div>
I really hate that comment and it sure gets posted a LOT by a lot of different people, so don't think I'm trying to single you out by any means, I'm not.
Who are we, any of us, to say what will or will not disappoint another person with an entirely different set of standards. The best we can do is provide suggestions and let the person make up their own mind.
"...do this and don't look back"
"...get this and you won't be disappointed"
"...get that, thank me later"

If he finds out a $300 cheaper can, suppresses his particular rifle better, I bet he'd sure as hell be disappointed.
 
#15
Re: AAC Cyclone vs. SAS SS

..

RJ,

You have done allot of reading and that is excellent. Now stop and do allot of listening to various cans if you can. If you can shoot them or hear them on platforms simular to your own, well you will be in a great position to make the right decision.

Having said that, a personal opinion. I am not a big fan of SS cans anymore. Anymore is the key word. There was a time and not so long ago that SS was the way to go and in some applications, with some barrel profiles, well it still can be very good. But overall, SS's time has come and gone, just like anything centerfire made out of aluminum was left behind a long time ago. I have SS cans and they are left in the rack most of the time. What took its place? Titanium. Why? Because you want to reduce as much weight as you can on the end of your barrel. That will keep the barrel from sagging and make the changes to Point of Impact (POI) as small as possible and hopefully more consistant. I also believe that properly constructed titanium cans just sound better than my SS cans. Are there great stainless cans? Nope, not for me, not any more, I reserve great for lighter materials now. SS cans can be very good.

A can should be a lifetime purchase as there is really ZERO aftermarket for a used can. A great can will last a lifetime. Sotex made a great offer, take him up on it. Hear as many cans from as many makers as you can.

Hear the can you are going to buy and you won't be disappointed...oh shit...well you won't be as disappointed as C-Bass is in me and witch doctor and, well, you get the point.
 
#16
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RollingThunder51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
A can should be a lifetime purchase as there is really ZERO aftermarket for a used can. A great can will last a lifetime. Sotex made a great offer, take him up on it. Hear as many cans from as many makers as you can.
</div></div>

Good advise. Get ahold of Sotex. If he has them in stock, this would be your best option. I've heard the Ti SAS Arbitor and its a GREAT sounding can. Light weight and inexpensive.
 
#17
Re: AAC Cyclone vs. SAS SS

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: c_bass16</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Witch Doctor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">you won't be disappointed. </div></div>
I really hate that comment and it sure gets posted a LOT by a lot of different people, so don't think I'm trying to single you out by any means, I'm not.
Who are we, any of us, to say what will or will not disappoint another person with an entirely different set of standards. The best we can do is provide suggestions and let the person make up their own mind.
"...do this and don't look back"
"...get this and you won't be disappointed"
"...get that, thank me later"

If he finds out a $300 cheaper can, suppresses his particular rifle better, I bet he'd sure as hell be disappointed. </div></div>

As I appreciate the sentiment, the OP specifically asked regarding the SAS and the AAC Cyclone, and to this particular thread it is really a moot point. The OP asked for an opinion, and mine was given along with a answer regarding the secondary question of wait time. In the same regard that the SAS may be $200.00 less, it is not in stock. I would understand your response if another brand he had not asked about was given, especially if that other can was untested, uncommon, or unknown within the community. Unfortunately the Cyclone is not that can, it is well documented.

In the same token, if he waits 6 months beyond the 3 to 4 month Tax Stamp wait time to get the SAS, he will most likely be disappointed simply due to the excess time used in acquisition. Especially considering this is his first NFA purchase.


RT,

Great advise as usual sir.
 
#18
Re: AAC Cyclone vs. SAS SS

Thanks for all the info guys! I may be leaning more toward the SAS Ti can now. The quest for knowledge continues. I wish I knew some people around here with some different cans I could hear. I have yet to see anyone out shooting with any NFA item here. When I was stationed in Vegas it was pretty common but, not in western PA.
 
#20
Re: AAC Cyclone vs. SAS SS

I think sotex hunter gives a snipershide discount on the suppressors he sells. He also has the sas ti's for less than the 800.00 u mentioned.
 
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