AB Library Update 951 (Barnes, Berger, Black Jack, & Nosler Additions)

[DocUSMCRetired]

We pushed Library Update 951 this weekend which includes the new Berger Long Range Hybrid Target, Black Jack 0.257 ACE, Barnes Match Burners, Nosler RDFs and some PDMs. You can see a complete list in the image below. All of the testing was performed using our RADAR system into subsonic ranges.

Users should have already received this message on your AB Connect compatible apps and be able to use the at this time:

 

[_Windrider_]

Will this be in the analytics library?

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

Will this be in the analytics library?

In the next update.

 

[Lonewolf762]

In the next update.

Any idea when that will be out?

 

[Yerman]

Thanks Doc. Quick question for you. Cutting Edge Laser, .264, 125gr. listed here https://cuttingedgebullets.com/264-6-5mm-125gr-lazer-tipped-hollow-point-50ct

The AB library has a 124gr listed. Is this a typo or an old custom drag model for a bullet that was replaced with a 125gr?

If the latter, I'd like to drop a request in for the 125gr. Doing a hunting load now for a 6.5PRC running these bullets and not sure if I should run the 124gr custom drag model, or input it manually with CE data. Thanks.

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

Any idea when that will be out?

All I can say is that it is in the que.

Thanks Doc. Quick question for you. Cutting Edge Laser, .264, 125gr. listed here https://cuttingedgebullets.com/264-6-5mm-125gr-lazer-tipped-hollow-point-50ct

The AB library has a 124gr listed. Is this a typo or an old custom drag model for a bullet that was replaced with a 125gr?

If the latter, I'd like to drop a request in for the 125gr. Doing a hunting load now for a 6.5PRC running these bullets and not sure if I should run the 124gr custom drag model, or input it manually with CE data. Thanks.

Looking into the details of this, and the test data.

 

[Yerman]

Thanks Doc. If it helps, the CE website says G7 Ballistic Coefficient .243 (A.B.) which looks like your data, but if I select the G7 on my Kestrel, it says its G7 .273. Strange it's such a big difference.

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

Thanks Doc. If it helps, the CE website says G7 Ballistic Coefficient .243 (A.B.) which looks like your data, but if I select the G7 on my Kestrel, it says its G7 .273. Strange it's such a big difference.

I double checked, it is a simple typo on the bullet weight. However the BC was generated just this January via our RADAR system. So that is the latest data and it checks out.

 

[Yerman]

I double checked, it is a simple typo on the bullet weight. However the BC was generated just this January via our RADAR system. So that is the latest data and it checks out.

Big thanks!

 

[jmikell870]

I was hoping the 6.5 Sierra 130 SMKs bthp were in the update. Thanks for pushing these updates. I use the CMDs for every bullet I have that you profile.

 

[Steel head]

Any news on the Berger 7mm LRHT CDM?

 

[jdnoble]

In AB I am unclear as to how to adjust for the impact of temp on powder. I have a good list of different powders and their relative burn rates, but don’t know how to translate that to the input for the app?

Appreciate the guidenance.

 

[_Windrider_]

You need to gather velocity data at multiple temps.

2800 at 80 degrees
2810 at 90 degrees

thats a 1 fps/degree

thats exageratted for the sake of the example.

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

I was hoping the 6.5 Sierra 130 SMKs bthp were in the update. Thanks for pushing these updates. I use the CMDs for every bullet I have that you profile.

Any news on the Berger 7mm LRHT CDM?

These are in our que to be tested. Testing priority is done based on the number of user requests per each specific bullet.

 

[Steel head]

These are in our que to be tested. Testing priority is done based on the number of user requests per each specific bullet.

So I need to flood you with requests?

 

[TxDerek]

These are in our que to be tested. Testing priority is done based on the number of user requests per each specific bullet.

Any chance there will be data on the 380gr Lehighs for the 375s? There is data for the Lehigh 353s, but no 380s. :/

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

Any chance there will be data on the 380gr Lehighs for the 375s? There is data for the Lehigh 353s, but no 380s. :/

It is on the list, bullets are tested based on requests/priority.

 

[padom]

Was hoping for the new 130 SMK's as well.

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

Was hoping for the new 130 SMK's as well.

Noted.

 

[DellaDog]

While we’re asking, Berger 85.5

 

[kindabitey]

And Berger 109 Hybrid

 

[Yerman]

Testing priority is done based on the number of user requests per each specific bullet.

Hey Doc, what method do you prefer for us to send in requests? I'm sure it's cumbersome to dig through emails and posts here on Snipershide. Just curious what method you prefer so we can send in requests without it being a pain to manage.

While I'm at it, I'd like to request the Badlands Precision ELR solids. Speicifically, the 338 260gr, and 375 400gr options here https://badlandsprecision.com/product/e-l-r/

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

While we’re asking, Berger 85.5

Already in the que.

 

[Howland]

Officially requesting the Hornady .338 300gr. A-Tip.

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

Officially requesting the Hornady .338 300gr. A-Tip.

It is in our que.

 

[st1650]

As there ever been a true radar tracking for projectiles that leaves the barrel subsonic.
IE: I do a lot of 300-400yrds shooting 308/300blk/22lr subsonic because there isn’t a whole lot of ELR places nearby. So I know that AB has supersonic to transonic radar tracking but I was wondering if there was actual radar curves for say when a Berger 175 OTM TAC leaves the barrel at 1020-1040FPS and I wonder if the bullet behaves differently at distance than when it goes from transonic to sub due to the angle of attack if it make sense?

 

[Steel head]

As there ever been a true radar tracking for projectiles that leaves the barrel subsonic.
IE: I do a lot of 300-400yrds shooting 308/300blk/22lr subsonic because there isn’t a whole lot of ELR places nearby. So I know that AB has supersonic to transonic radar tracking but I was wondering if there was actual radar curves for say when a Berger 175 OTM TAC leaves the barrel at 1020-1040FPS and I wonder if the bullet behaves differently at distance than when it goes from transonic to sub due to the angle of attack if it make sense?

You should listen to the podcast with Applied ballistics recently that discusses the speed vs BC dynamic of subsonics.

 

[st1650]

Which podcast?

 

[M289]

It is in our que.

Excellent! I'd like to add my vote for the Hornady .338 300gr. A-Tip.

 

[MarinePMI]

Which podcast?

Pretty sure that was the third episode with Brian and Emil...

 

[burkmanfox]

It is in our que.

Looking forward to using the 190 lrht cdm for my new 7saum.

 

[Quicksilver338]

Vote for 300gr a tip as well!!!

Also 200gr cutting edge Lazer please

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

Vote for 300gr a tip as well!!!

Also 200gr cutting edge Lazer please

Noted.

 

[mactavish]

Noted.

If it's not already on your list, Doc... vote here for the 7mm 190gn A-Tip, please. (Along with another vote for the .338 300gn A-Tip.)

Cheers.

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

If it's not already on your list, Doc... vote here for the 7mm 190gn A-Tip, please. (Along with another vote for the .338 300gn A-Tip.)

Cheers.

These are on our list.

 

[Lonewolf762]

Is the analytics library out all ready?

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

Is the analytics library out all ready?

We plan to have an update to AB Analytics Q4 of this year.

 

[Lonewolf762]

We plan to have an update to AB Analytics Q4 of this year.

Thanks Doc.