How about the magazines for short action cartridges....do those come out anytime soon or will it be in 2021?
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That dark earth is pretty sweet, though the elite sand is shinny it's suppose to be a bit tougher. Over time the sand might show wear a bit harder.
Go for the dark earth, who knows when the others will show up. You can always add that 300NM barrel later.
Im pretty impulsive when it comes to stuff like this, so I just might....
The DE doesnt look bad at all
When I was talking with Mile High a few days ago I believe they said "we were told 3rd quarter so most likely it will be 4th quarter that the SA cartridge mags will be released"
I was trying to compare the ASR and DE AXSR today and they appeared to be different colors, are the ASR's Dark Earth as well?
That just SUCKS elephant dick.
They release a LH bolt a year before they release a magazine solution? I'm sure Tom Irwin has a few for his LH. MHS told me 1st quarter when I bought the bolt last November.
Truth be told, no one knows the answer. More than likely, they never will be released...People bitch about H&K CS...give me a break
I don't have a AXSR here to compare it.. but it's a bit more shinny then the dark earth AXSA
Did you get the ASR with the entire deployment kit?
I have the 300WM DE 20in bbl on order and have the same thoughts but want 300prc so I am holding back
That’s awesome. Those ASR 308 mags you have are gonna be worth their weight in gold until AI releases them for the AXSR
You getting the thunder Beast ASR can to complete the kit?Maybe... I'm making the ASR a safe queen for now... Not using any of the kit.. yet
I just want to know if that shirt is actually going to exist for people to buy haha
Has there been any discussion regarding the chassis being offered for sale on its own?
It's delayed, same with the new 50 which was suppose to be out nearly 2 years ago.
Here's a link to 2017 shot show talking about the new 50.
Here's a link to 2017 shot show talking about the new 50.
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Mmmmmm.................
For anyone interested in the MLOK hand guard, I got an email back from AI today and they said " The Mlok with be offered as a spare possibly in the 4th quarter"
FYI, You have to pull the rail or remove all the mlok accessories if you wish to swap out the barrel.
Well that’s unfortunate for those that mount a bunch of accessories on the hand guard. I just like the look of MLOK honestly, Is it the same way with keyslot attachments?
Lololol translation... Sometime in the next 5 years probably
Well, we had one in a class today. You can remove the bbl IF the rails are not opposite each other. Top rail not relevant, the bottom rail for a bipod was no problem. As shipped, we had one long rail on the right and two short sections on the left, removing the rearmost short section let me wiggle the bbl out. We had the whole kit, so 308 mags in the box. That was the only issue, other than the trigger comes all the way forward, where an orangutan might like it, but no humans can reach properly.
This will be my first AI and I’m quickly learning from reading old threads that the time frame on the actual release of accessories is what they tell you +2 years or so
Keyslot is twice as strong. The MLOK was a requirement for the ASR solicitation (Thanks SOCOM). Thus why you see Keyslot on the AXSR's.
Again, MLOK can lick on some ballsss.
Again, MLOK can lick on some ballsss.
Wish my wife was more like MLOK
Gents,
I'll address a few of your questions and comments.
Comp Trigger: The Competition Trigger was offered as a replacement for the original AI trigger in legacy rifles. The spring set allows for adjustment under 1.0 lbs. and that trigger has a significant range of adjustment and different spring sets are available. The trigger is intended for people using their AI rifle in tactical competition. Several of those triggers have come back to us for "service". This is typically due to improper adjustment by the end-user. We have reset and cleaned them and I don't believe one has ever come back a second time. All of these low pull weight triggers require extra care and knowledge if they are expected to operate as designed. We have run the Competition Trigger on a lot of different rifles here at AI and never had an issue. We run the comp trigger on our AX50 bench rest guns which are fairly violent in terms of recoil and no problems after three seasons of use.
ASR Trigger: The trigger supplied in the ASR was made by AI. Internally it is exactly the same as the AW/AT/AX triggers with the pull weight set to 2.5 lbs. The housing design changed because the action is entirely new and overall weight and the length is different from the AXMC, and is not bonded to the chassis. This necessitated a change in the trigger housing design.
We submitted three ASR rifles to SOCOM for the trial that started in 2017. One of the three rifles had a trigger that did not maintain the adjustment range and we were eliminated from the trial. Again, that trigger was an AI trigger and that failure is on us.
AXSR Trigger: The trigger in the AXSR is unique to the new rifle, and unsurprisingly we call it the "AXSR Trigger". The pull weight is 2.5 lbs, and the spring set is different from the Competition Trigger. The AXSR trigger was put through exhaustive testing at ADG and several changes were recommended. We worked with Tom Myers at X-Treme Shooting Products to implement the changes. We also wanted greater corrosion resistance in this "production" trigger vs the Competition Trigger and the housing is made from 304 stainless steel and some of the surface treatments were changed on other parts. The workmanship on these triggers is exemplary and they have been extremely consistent in production testing. Like the AI triggers, the AXSR trigger can be adjusted but the range is higher than on the comp trigger.
AXSR 308 Mags: These will ship to our distributors in June. As you might guess, international shipping has been a challenge these past two months and we have management meetings daily to adjust to this situation.
M-LOK vs Keyslot Forends: We will offer the AXSR style forend with RRS interface as a replacement for the AXMC forend tubes. It will NOT be "years" as some have suggested, but it isn't the top priority at the moment. They will be available in 2020.
The ASR and AXSR forend tubes are asymmetric having additional width to provide greater clearance for M-LOC fasteners. Even with added width, we did some rail and barrel profile gymnastics to meet the ASR Pspec for sling attachment in front of the receiver. (see attached pic) It is not possible to install M-LOK rail over the largest diameter of the barrel on the ASR. With Keyslot, you could theoretically run a 1.335" barrel full length and put rail anywhere you want. Keyslot fasteners pull up completely flush with the interior of the tube.
Action Gas Ports: As noted by others, the red disk are dirt/dust blocks for two large gas handling ports as done on the AW/AX50 rifles. This is an operator safety enhancement and acknowledgment that if things go wrong with a 30 caliber round burning close to 90 grains of propellent the gas needs a path of least resistance away from the operator. Yes, we do test these systems to failure and the results with this action have been exemplary.
Old/Traditional vs New: We had the same complaints and misty-eyed longing for the AW when we introduced the AX and AXMC, and we expect the same with the AXSR. This doesn't change the fact that the new rifle is better in every possible way vs its predecessors. Like one of my old friends said about pickup trucks recently, "They don't make um like they use to." To which I replied, "And thank God for that!".
For those that love tradition, we still have the AT. It is a significantly improved AW and the price is in line with most of the custom builds.
ASR/AXSR Grip Interface: The grip interface is rotated 10 degrees placing ANY AR type grip in a more vertical orientation. Keep in mind, the ASR and AXSR are not focused at the competition community. These are first and foremost sniper rifles and the ability to install COTS AR grips is more important than the latest game gun grips. Also, keep in mind when this rifle was in development most of the vertical AR grips were not available.
I will try to check in on this thread and answer the questions that I can.
-Scott
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Thank you Scott
that's terrible suppressed shooting is the best shootingNew York.. no cans here
that is some useful info thanks Scott.
Thank you for the info @Scott Seigmund
I’ll go ahead and be the one to ask. Is there a AXSR Short Action in the future?
I’ll go ahead and be the one to ask. Is there a AXSR Short Action in the future?
We have firm orders for the LH AXSR and they will deliver in Q4.
The long answer is we don't discuss future products ;-}
ASR/AXSR Grip Interface: The grip interface is rotated 10 degrees placing ANY AR type grip in a more vertical orientation. Keep in mind, the ASR and AXSR are not focused at the competition community. These are first and foremost sniper rifles and the ability to install COTS AR grips is more important than the latest game gun grips. Also, keep in mind when this rifle was in development most of the vertical AR grips were not available.
?? Forgive me I still just dont understand. Having grip modularity was just not a priority as this is first and foremost a "sniper rifle?"
Im certainly not a sniper so I cant speak for sniper's, but even the USMC M40A6 Remington RACS system has this. Its certainly a "Sniper Rifle." Not a game gun grip.
?? Forgive me I still just dont understand. Having grip modularity was just not a priority as this is first and foremost a "sniper rifle?"
Im certainly not a sniper so I cant speak for sniper's, but even the USMC M40A6 Remington RACS system has this. Its certainly a "Sniper Rifle." Not a game gun grip.
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its a good thing
i bought one and had it shipped over a few years ago, wanted to see if it was any better etc
expensive, a mixture of a knock off atlus with the build materials of a knock off harris without the springs
light and pops off easy but for a range day...not the best
@Scott Seigmund thank you for the information, but I have some additional questions.
1 - You state the AXSR trigger is unique to the new rifle, but are the adjustment procedures on AXSR trigger the same as the Comp trigger?
2 - Do you know when the bolt body for the AXSR will be available for the 308?
Thanks.
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Does AI plan on releasing the AXSR in Pale Brown and Sage Green, or will the path forward be with the current 3. Thanks.
The adjustment procedure for the AXSR trigger is the same as for the comp trigger. It just won't go as low in total pull weight.
The 308 bolts (and 300 WIN MAG) will be available in Q3. The limited edition ASR kits already have the 308 bolt.
-Scott
The AXSR colors are as follows.
1. Black
2. Flat Dark Earth
3. Elite Sand
-Scott
I'm with you on that. Like the PGW chassis, I can't stand looking at those, the engineers who designed it just seemed lazy. Looks so unprofessional and unrefined. At least this AI looks better then this:
I really hope someone comes out with a proper vertical grip. It's ridiculous they built in a 10 degree AR grip, I cannot understand the logic.
Have a AXSR Black 27" 338 LM inbound. Will be in Wednesday.
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