Maggie’s Advice Needed on Traveling Through Indian Reservations

[1911hombre]

Going to Arizona soon. The wife and I will be traveling in our pickup and pulling my 6x12 cargo trailer. Going to spend four nights in Sedona, then to the Grand Canyon for a day and night, then home from there. Concerned about stuff I've read about reservations regarding firearms. From most of the stuff I've read the general consensus is to have any and all weapons unloaded, cased, and out of reach. Mostly concerned with Arizona, Oklahoma, Utah. I have permits from MN, FL, and UT but sounds like that doesn't matter. Need some solid advice from those that know!

 

[Makinchips208]

take some beads to trade

 

[1911hombre]

take some beads to trade

and firewater?

 

[4g64loser]

Not gospel but I've been through them with lots of stuff. Including a ton of Title 2 stuff. In one.case, we knew there was a distict possibility that we would have to get off the highway briefly in a res. We contacted res police a week or so before, said who we were and what we would have/be doing. They were surprisingly chill about it. They asked that if we were going to be off the highway for whatever reason, we call em. Since that didn't happen. It was all good. Think a couple 3/4 ton suburbans full of machine guns and ammo.

In general, if you are on the highway, you are not going to have issues. Don't go exploring on their land without permission, armed or not. If you forsee stopping for whatever reason, have your stuff secured per Volkmer-McClure '86.

 

[Maggot]

Watch your scalp.

Oklahoma is about the most liberal state for guns, dont worry therer. Az is a consitutional carry so you'll be ok there.

 

[NoDopes]

Trade some beaver.

 

[diggler1833]

If you don't have a loaded gun in your truck, you aren't an Oklahoma native.

Tribal police in this state are just regular police essentially... Some of the Choctaws here aren't even card-carrying Indians. Adhere to state guidelines, and you're never going to have issues in this state. Can't speak to others.

 

[JoshPutman]

No disease infested blankets.

 

[MK20]

Dress up in a US Cavalry outfit and say you are there to make them good Indians. They will appreciate your goodwill.

 

[Maggot]

If you don't have a loaded gun in your truck, you aren't an Oklahoma native.

No disease infested blankets.

You laugh but in Amherst County Virginia thats exactly what happened. Lord Amherst gave tuberculosis infected blankets to the natives and it devestated them.

 

[1911hombre]

I can show them this thread and all the advice I got right before they plunger- rape me.

 

[MK20]

Real advice though, is to keep extra gas on board, fill up before you enter the res, set cruise control, and don't stop until you leave.

 

[4g64loser]

Real advice though, is to keep extra gas on board, fill up before you enter the res, set cruise control, and don't stop until you leave.

Best policy.

 

[Makinchips208]

I live on a reservation.
I have family on the Navajo reservation.

For the most part there isn’t a lot of difference on vs off the rez.
Dont transport alcohol on some.
Obey the traffic laws.
Treat any tribal land as private land.

Enjoy the beauty of the land!

 

[Ankeny]

Take the "Custer was a Pussy" bumper sticker off of your vehicle before you go.

 

[TheHorta]

Be sure to wear this T-shirt:

 

[MK20]

What res are you planing on going through?

 

[1911hombre]

What res are you planing on going through?

Not sure yet. When we leave the Grand Canyon if we’re gonna head towards Four Corners or straight up through Utah. We rode 191 the whole length of the state a few years ago. Stayed overnight in Chinle. Then rode from there up through Durango to Montrose and Grand Junction. Carried the whole time and never gave it a thought. But lately I’ve seen more discussion of this not being a good idea.

 

[ColinW]

Ya know dude.....You could just keep quiet, try to act normal best you can(can't say the same for your wife though) and go on about your business?

If your pieces are secured in your vehicle or trailer, who has to know what your private property consists of?

My vote is to remain a "Silent Professional" as the contents of your private property are of no use to anyone but you and your wife. I'd just keep my mouth shut & drive on thru peacefully.

YMMV.

 

[lonegunman762x51]

Never had an issue, I was in the same area about 4 years ago. Never got stopped or had trouble and if I had I wouldn't not have been an idiot and told the rez cops I was armed. Just be aware that most of the areas I drove thru looked like Afghanistan or Iraq in terms of quality of buildings and conditions. Everything was bunkered up because of local crime and garbage blew freely around any rez town. Lock your doors if you want to keep your stuff.

We stayed in Sedona, it is a typical tourist hell. Food from a nice place gave us and everyone else the shits. Same on Grand Canyon, we had dinner at their historical restraunt and got the shits along with everyone else. So do not be surprised if the shits become your favorite souvenir of the trip.

Watching retarded back east assholes chase a spindly 4 point elk down the street like they saw Taylor Swift was entertaining. The view is great but everything else at the Grand Canyon was threadbare from the millions of tourists every month. It appears some asshole jumps or falls off the thing weekly. We had a retard lunge to retrieve his hat while he was doing a ghetto pose near the edge and over the fence. He had a Wile E. Coyote moment before he descended 200 feet into the rocks. While they were mopping him up they found another one from a month ago that no one saw.

Enjoy the trip and no jumping.

 

[jbuck88]

In general main highways are probably federal and state funded. So federal/state laws apply. Once off the main hwy tribal laws apply. The Rez here is supposedly no go for non-members to possess firearms. Never enforced, but could be if you make it.

Few friends are tribal cops, they aren't looking for trouble. Show respect and get respect.