The unity of the people is the power and one of the reasons the media and government pushes division. The last thing they want is the people unified against them, they want to manipulate that for their own agenda. They fear our unity!!
^^^^^RAND report by James Dobbins, Jason H. Campbell, Sean Mann, Laurel E. MillerWorth a read.
"But for the reasons cited in this paper, a post-withdrawal collapse might come sooner. And so might the regret. The enemies that drew the United States back into Afghanistan in 2001 and back into Iraq in 2014 are still present in Afghanistan in 2019."
"As noted, it has become a common view that there is no military solution to the war in Afghanistan, but this is, at best, only half true. Winning may not be an available option, but losing certainly is, and a precipitous departure, no matter how rationalized, would mean choosing to lose."
- Consequences of a Precipitous U.S. Withdrawal from Afghanistan (2019)
We stopped paying the ANA months ago and everyone in the country overtly went into withdrawal mode, which was kind of a short timeline for an exit. During that time the Afghan security forces start their retreat as well.Sir
I believe you have hit the preverbal nail on the head. Sure seem easy and planned out. No fighting and just showed up. Seems a little sinister to me.
They know every bit of this ^^^^^ it doesn't get them a consultant job that pays millions of dollars when they retire if they make it public knowledge.We stopped paying the ANA months ago and everyone in the country overtly went into withdrawal mode, which was kind of a short timeline for an exit. During that time the Afghan security forces start their retreat as well.
These guys fought, but only when they were paid and outside of their backyard, in a different or neighboring province. They’re very much tribal.
I really don’t think Americans understand Afghan culture even a little. Their too busy equating developed western life to Afghans. “I would stand and fight!” That attitude applies when you care for something like a unified country. People in say, Uruzgun give no consideration to a country. Just leave them to govern their little piece of the earth and all will be well. Here’s your options as an Afghan army guy: stay and fight, the Taliban probably kills your family. Especially the leadership. Americans no longer cover you with bombs, so you will win but it won’t be easy. Finally, the populace is so ready for anything but war - they support the taliban as they’ve been the shadow governer for 20 years!
There’s no option there.
Gen Miley is a dumb motherfucker or a complete liar. Everyone who left the FOB in Afghanistan knew goddamn well the Taliban would take the country quickly. He ought to be fired and so should the SecDef. Im not upset we left but to be so ignorant that we left the country and immediately had to launch more troops over there because our plan was such shit. That’s outright embarrassing!
Most were tolerating the stolen election, because they had no choice and don't want to die fighting.Most were tolerating the US/Nato presence, because they had no choice and don't want to die fighting.
I think it’s a shitty officer thing, like a politician, you cannot offer the truth. Such as: I was in charge of X, during my time, our control was reduced and the enemy gained an advantage. That’s like a career ender, even if it’s the truth. So instead, they lie. I saw it in Iraq and Afghanistan. Just inflated bullshit, skew the numbers a little, yeah all is good we’re winning… on paper.They know every bit of this ^^^^^ it doesn't get them a consultant job that pays millions of dollars when they retire if they make it public knowledge.
So I will pick option B. He's a complete liar
Gen Miley isn’t going to get fired as long as he keeps reading Ibram x kendi books.We stopped paying the ANA months ago and everyone in the country overtly went into withdrawal mode, which was kind of a short timeline for an exit. During that time the Afghan security forces start their retreat as well.
These guys fought, but only when they were paid and outside of their backyard, in a different or neighboring province. They’re very much tribal.
I really don’t think Americans understand Afghan culture even a little. Their too busy equating developed western life to Afghans. “I would stand and fight!” That attitude applies when you care for something like a unified country. People in say, Uruzgun give no consideration to a country. Just leave them to govern their little piece of the earth and all will be well. Here’s your options as an Afghan army guy: stay and fight, the Taliban probably kills your family. Especially the leadership. Americans no longer cover you with bombs, so you will win but it won’t be easy. Finally, the populace is so ready for anything but war - they support the taliban as they’ve been the shadow governer for 20 years!
There’s no option there.
Gen Miley is a dumb motherfucker or a complete liar. Everyone who left the FOB in Afghanistan knew goddamn well the Taliban would take the country quickly. He ought to be fired and so should the SecDef. Im not upset we left but to be so ignorant that we left the country and immediately had to launch more troops over there because our plan was such shit. That’s outright embarrassing!