After the 20th, adjusting the ugliness on here

[...]

This is a great update to the site. There have been more than a few really questionable posts on here lately that essentially all boil down to a call for, or encouragement of, violence against: anyone with a different political opinion, women, any race other than “white”.

Thanks @lowlight for taking some action.

I've been on here a long time...I have rarely seen anyone advocating violence based on race.....and we usually handle those that do swiftly

And I can most certainly say no one is up in here advocating violence against women

So I don't know what the fuck you've been reading

 

[Lowlight]

Suggestions

1. Don't quote or respond to idiots because quoting dumb shit written just makes it harder to remove,
2. Don't answer them, or respond with something off topic

Hell just a ^^^^^ Bad Egg
Don't respond to this

Right under a dumb ass post is probably enough

 

[Lowlight]

I am gonna start it now then, remove some post, not the most popular ones, but many of them

I will write a "New Rule" sticky for 2021,

There will be a transition period for sure so we won't ban people for violations but you all need to help and warn people to stick to the script

 

[_Windrider_]

Guys,

We have one more upgrade to accomplish, they are working on the staging site now. On January 11th, that upgrade will happen. I am thinking after January 20th, we are gonna limit the public politics being broadcast on the site.

It's not a good look, it's ugly, its divisive even among our own members. I am getting 10x more reports turning each other in for "violations", which 99% were disagreements in politics and how people read those. We had members quit because of politics, which whatever, weak minded shit, but still, it's a bad look for everyone.

We still need to protect our 2nd Amendment rights, we are gonna be in for a big fight moving forward, but it can't be this free for all like we see today. Too many members don't understand this, and are saying stuff that can get all of us in trouble. Don't believe me, I can tell you people are being arrested and this site is definitely on their radar. The problem with public protests on here, where people are threatening or even loosely implying a threat, anyone can see it. When the other side sees it, they report you to the FBI and they have to investigate it. If we can take some of this public discourse to the inside, ie: the Supporter Forum, it's not public and personally I am fine with you venting your anger out of the public view, we might be able to dodge a few issues.

So the Bear Pit won't be closed off 100% after January 20th to politics, but it will be limited. I will create 3 Main threads, if you want to post title suggestions for the Bear Pit, by all means. Think it of like the Motivational picture thread just with politics. It will be easier to manage, I will be less likely to be a jerk about banning and removing people because it's balanced, and if you venture in for a look that is on you. We create an easier to manage situation for all.

That said, I will open up the Supporter Section that is semi Private to any political discussion like we have today. The bottom line, if you are not sky-lining the site, I would be much more chill about it.

So the When

January 21st 2021

The What,

Limiting political discourse, this a shooting site, not a politics one. We will created designated threads to use in place of just anyone posting politic stuff all over. We have to camouflage this stuff a bit, we are now in the minority and they are gonna exact revenge. I don't want to be left without a chair if and when the music stops.

Remember this is still business and a place many companies do business on. I understand the anger and frustration. We are not curtailing anyone's rights we are simply managing the public visibility because they are out there. Free speech is fine, except when others weaponize it, and I feel they have done that to us. Understanding nobody here will get a fair shake, we need to be smarter.

10-4.

 

[Josh1978]

My nut sack on your drum set!

 

[deersniper]

here lately that essentially all boil down to a call for, or encouragement of, violence against: anyone with a different political opinion, women, any race other than “white”.

Calls for violence against Women and mon whites ?

Some would say calls for violence against communists and socialists is preemptive self defense.

The fact that the “politics” of those responsible for so much suffering and murder throughout the world in the present and also the past, is allowed shows how far we’ve sunk.

 

[hlee]

The “no more politics in the bearpit” thread becomes a politics shit-show in 3, 2, 1...

 

[Dthomas3523]

My suggestions for thread names:

“Single Digit ES”

“Hathcock didn’t need no gamechanger”

“Is it Thesis or Theis?”

 

[brianf]

Does anyone else seem confused why we are discussing “secrete names” openly?

 

[Jscb1b]

Something about the world's tallest midget?

 

[Dthomas3523]

Does anyone else seem confused why we are discussing “secrete names” openly?

The fuck outta here with that logic

 

[Maggot]

The fuck outta here with that logic

DThomas, youre ok, I dont care what the rest say about you.

 

[BadDogPSD]

2nd motion to approve "The Outhouse"...excellent title for consideration.

"Shitters Full!"

 

[Deleted member 113831]

Rob and I can Scream for Vengeance
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THAT is the funniest shit I've seen in a bit. Thanks for the laugh.

 

[mwc63]

Good idea.
Gonna miss the sarcasm though. Helped refine a sense of humor.

 

[TxWelder35]

I was actually just mentioning something like this in Hortas thread.

Frank can you do a minimum post count as well Inside of the supporter section before threads can be viewed? That would keep prying eyes away that will pay just to see behind the curtain.

Also, probably not a bad idea to nuke most if not all of the political threads on here. Maybe move the election thread over, it has a lot of good back log of data.

 

[TxWelder35]

Does anyone else seem confused why we are discussing “secrete names” openly?

I would assume this thread goes away before too long

 

[DOA]

Mods don't screen anything here, are you crazy ?

We can't follow every post made on this site, I keep tell you all, when people get in trouble they raised their hand or someone else told on them. Sure we see some stuff because we use the site like everyone else, but 75% of the time, you were told on.

We have a report button, you all are reporting each other, some are valid, some are revenge, some are stupid. But the they have increased in the last few weeks 10 fold.

Ban the posters reporting stupid ones, warn the ones reporting revenge, and the valid ones, well....

 

[OldSalty2]

"Applied Techincal Calculus"

First few posts we can discuss fourier / laplace transform analysis as a decoy...

 

[Sniperwannabee]

So people are actually reporting each other for violations?

What's the reasoning behind this? Liability issues? Or are they just being nerds?

yep they are called snowflakes

 

[myronman3]

in all honesty, the sooner you do it, the better for the site and yourself. and i say that, with the lion’s share of my time on here in the pit. i’ve always measured what i type as to whether or not i’d say it to someone’s face, or in public. BUT....sooner or later (and it’s probably going to be sooner) they are coming for the community. and in every way they possibly can.

i thank you for the work you’ve done, the work you’re still doing, and the what’s ahead. my sincere best wishes for the health and welfare of the site and it’s members..... the folks here are indeed a cut above most people you run into. i sure would hate to see anything used against folks....we know how they twist things. buckle up, it’s going to get bumpy.

hopefully i’m as wrong as wrong can be.

 

[hlee]

"Applied Techincal Calculus"

First few posts we can discuss fourier / laplace transform analysis as a decoy...

How about “Quantitative comparison of the terminal ballistics of “match” and “hunting” bullets.” Let it rage for about 3 days before you lock it down for politics only. No one would wade through that shit-show on accident...

 

[...]

"Applied Techincal Calculus"

First few posts we can discuss fourier / laplace transform analysis as a decoy...

listen, i did a great breakdown of a ballistic trajectory of a tossed midget a few days ago......we dont need no decoy....we do this math legit.

Capitalism

I'm starting to see people attempting to define capitalism and it sounds like the black market Da Nang ca.1968. We're not stupid so don't piss on our paws 🐾 and tell us it's raining. I've watched my share of Magnum P.I. OG and Hard Tea is not capitalism.

www.snipershide.com

 

[Jscb1b]

listen, i did a great breakdown of a ballistic trajectory of a tossed midget a few days ago......we dont need no decoy....we do this math legit.

Capitalism

I'm starting to see people attempting to define capitalism and it sounds like the black market Da Nang ca.1968. We're not stupid so don't piss on our paws 🐾 and tell us it's raining. I've watched my share of Magnum P.I. OG and Hard Tea is not capitalism.

www.snipershide.com

You failed to mention breast size in relation to BC.

 

[...]

You failed to mention breast size in relation to BC.

i cover that in midget ballistics 202.....that next lesson will be available when my new subform goes live.

 

[Aftermath]

Within the last week or so, I went through ALL of my posts and deleted pics of firearms and cleaned up posts.
Paranoid?
MANY years ago, I was on Facebook. The virus/trojan/whatever checker I was using then kept telling that FB was spying on me. I said my goodbyes to some "friends" and deleted everything I had ever posted then deleted my account. My own family said I was crazy.
Several years ago, a friend who lived in Guam then and I were discussing dogs via email (Gmail for me). I said mine was sure smart for having a golf ball sized brain. [I do not golf. I do not look at golf shit. I don't shop for golf shit. I have never watched golf on TV] I said I should have named him Calloway or Titelist. Sure as shit, I start seeing ads for golf shit.
I stopped using everything Google and found a less invasive email company.
Paranoid?
Maybe, I deleted pics of firearms and any mention of the shit I have.
You do you.

 

[Jrb572]

I think about the Bear Pit Post Names

Camouflaging them would be smart too

Sure we can do something easy like

2nd Amendment Discussion
Free Speech Spectacular
Lowlight's Secret Underwear Drawer

Lowlight’s secret underwear drawer?

Have you been sneaking into Lady Gaga’s house again and not telling us about it?

 

[hlee]

If you posted them, “they” already have them. Goodby horses. You shut the gate too late. The time to scrub is before you hit submit.

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

While were at it make a Safe Space Section and fill it with picture threads about unicorns, rainbows, and stuffed animals. Anyone reporting another member for som BS gets a timeout and thats the only section they can see.

 

[Aftermath]

If you posted them, “they” already have them. Goodby horses. You shut the gate too late. The time to scrub is before you hit submit.

Agreed....but it's never too late to scrub. It's not there to find now.
I will NEVER post pics of my shit ever again.

 

[OldSalty2]

We try but it usually just devolves into conflict and name calling.

Suggestions?

That's an interesting question my maggotity friend.

Many times I've seen trolls being taken to the woodshed in debate, only to be given a lifeline of derailment by someone jumping in to say "fuck off commie".

Then the thread is derailed for 4 or 5 pages.

Not that I personally care, nor disagree in some circumstances and perhaps the intentions are good...

But it's like putting the condom on after sex. Just does no good...well, bad analogy but you know....

 

[deersniper]

Agreed....but it's never too late to scrub. It's not there to find now.
I will NEVER post pics of my shit ever again.

F that. Overload the system. Everyone has guns and posts them what they gonna do. ?

One of the many reasons I give parts, uppers, ARs and sometimes cans to right minded people that just aren’t total gun nuts yet

 

[Snipe260]

i cover that in midget ballistics 202.....that next lesson will be available when my new subform goes live.

Did you use a pointy helmet?

 

[OldSalty2]

If you posted them, “they” already have them. Goodby horses. You shut the gate too late. The time to scrub is before you hit submit.

Have you paid cash for all your firearm related transactions. If not, welp...

 

[...]

Did you use a pointy helmet?

no.....because much like a .223 gun show expert ballistics, the midget is designed to tumble, ergo pointy helmets are not required and actually a determent to midget terminal ballistics.

 

[Bullfrog08]

"#Not me Too"

"Toliet bowl"

"A-Franks Attic"

Imagine a world where we have to hide our thoughts/discussions....hiding them in Frank's attic. What the fuck happened to our country!?!?

 

[Carlos Danger]

I understand the legal / exposure aspect of the decision......from your site owner position. What this site is based on is DIRECTLY tied to politics. Theres no way to avoid that. The only reason it's changed is because politics changed. I suspect the majority here are adamant about firearms and their rights. Those rights are being SEVERELY threatened so I'm not surprised many are drawing a line....and not afraid to say so. The reporting thing is ridiculous. Don't think I've ever even though about using it. Like Twitter. Your BBQ, your rules.

 

[Nik H]

F that. Overload the system. Everyone has guns and posts them what they gonna do. ?

One of the many reasons I give parts, uppers, ARs and sometimes cans to right minded people that just aren’t total gun nuts yet

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Where's the good stuff you have

 

[deersniper]

Where's the good stuff you have

That is good stuff there lol. Rock barrel. NF scope, OpsInc can, G trigger, TBAC bipod. That gun has made a pile of crazy shots.









This is all you get

 

[Blutroop]

F that. Overload the system. Everyone has guns and posts them what they gonna do. ?

One of the many reasons I give parts, uppers, ARs and sometimes cans to right minded people that just aren’t total gun nuts yet

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Have I told you lately I’m not a gun nut yet?

 

[hlee]

Have you paid cash for all your firearm related transactions. If not, welp...

Nope. And, I post gun pics on Facebook and shooting videos on YouTube. There are plenty of pics of my stuff right here on SH too. Filled out my share of 4473s and even filed a few form 4s. If “they” want me, “they” can find me...

 

[whiskeytower]

I welcome this change, i am tired and saturated with political horseshit. We have to stay focused and informed but, we also need to have time to decompress from it all. It will make you nuts if even on a shooting sight the first thread you go to is political. (I have been guilty of this as of late).

"Pot calling the Kettle Black"
"Lick the white dog turd"
"Cat Herders"

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

So is this contribitors section only for people currently subscribed to the monthly paid subscription or anyone that has previously contributed?

Seems I no longer have access.

 

[Solid7]

If you guys want a safe space for politics, go sign up at the 65Grendel forum. They protect their fragility over there, by banning members who don't praise the current administration. You'll be summarily branded a leftist and excommunicated if you don't tow the party/cult line. So if you want an option, where your ideals - right, wrong, or retarded - won't be challenged, suggest you hit them up. They're a straight up backwards bunch - but they won't let anyone fuck with ya. No thinking, just protection.

 

[gunjunkie45]

F that. Overload the system. Everyone has guns and posts them what they gonna do. ?

One of the many reasons I give parts, uppers, ARs and sometimes cans to right minded people that just aren’t total gun nuts yet

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Did you say free cans?!....

 

[Jigstick]

So if we want to start a political post we should title it “the best way to eat snatch” or something like that?

 

[JLP83]

You wear underwear....what a nerd

Doc

Civilization must have law and order. Underwear are required for the people

 

[scubabri]

I am a new user to the site, but not a new shooter. The discussions in the Bear Pit helped me out of a very lonely place the other day. I had pretty much lost hope and it was VERY nice to hear other people who think like me, vent, even if there was a lot of junk to weed through. I respect your decision, but in today's climate of censorship, removing yet another venue or limiting the discourse just feeds into people suspicions and paranoia (not to say they aren't really after us).

 

[deersniper]

day. I had pretty much lost hope and it was VERY nice to hear other people who think like me, vent,

This is why they want to kill free speech and make every public area ans online area like Facebook.


Can’t have the serfs spreading truth or discontent. Don’t want them realizing other people are like them also and fed up

 

[Jscb1b]

no.....because much like a .223 gun show expert ballistics, the midget is designed to tumble, ergo pointy helmets are not required and actually a determent to midget terminal ballistics.

Aren't YOU the one to wear the pointy helmet?