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It's easy enough to open it all back up until August. That doesn't mean anyone has to use the site.
Might be an interesting experiment to see what people do.
On the other hand, they breached first. All the pricks had to do was answer your calls and emails.
Of course we all know that if we did go back, the parent company will not be able to keep their hands out of the batter, and things like "bad words" and "hurtful phrases" will have to be done away with. Not to mention there's no chance in Hell they'll let us keep the Firearms PX section. You think PayPal is bad? Watch CBS news for a day or so.
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Remember, David Letterman got rich by trashing General Electric on his show every day! Think of the fun we could have with CBS Meme's....
My friend, you have got quite a hard on for old Dan, don't you? You do know he's been gone from CBS for some 11 years? 
We are not going back... the only thing now to figure out the particulars of the split, beyond, I get nothing owed to me, as they stiffed me January, February and now 1/2 of March. Part of the problem is determining if the breaches are on Scout or CBS and it appears I would have to chase Scout which is a complete waste of time.
I could go to court and say, CBS, but they can easily say, No, Scout, then it would be a total waste of time, cause then it's just throwing money away.
I could go to court and say, CBS, but they can easily say, No, Scout, then it would be a total waste of time, cause then it's just throwing money away.
Well damn, boss. I'm sorry you got stiffed.
PM me before listing any of your toys in the PX's for the wolves though. I've got cash and always ready to jump on a good deal.
PM me before listing any of your toys in the PX's for the wolves though. I've got cash and always ready to jump on a good deal.
Great idea. I'd happily buy an OAF bucket of SH shwag. Although a golf umbrella would be handier for me than a beach umbrella. T-shirt, patches, stickers, embroidered range bag, at least a few coffee mugs. I'm sure GaGa's greatest hits CD would find its way in there also.
Lady Gaga's Sniper mixtape.... I like it!
Let's see... we got 'Hit me with your best shot...' 'I can see for miles and miles...' 'Shot through the heart...' 'Shoot 'em up...' 'Janie's Got a gun....' 'Lawyers Guns and Money...' 'Happiness is a Warm Gun...' 'Big Gun...' Bet there's a bunch of them out there! Just gotta put Gaga on the cover and it'll sell like hotcakes! Frank will be able to get his Bentley out of hock.
Cheers,
Sirhr
Frank isn't going to have to sell a damn thing... Why yes, this is a fine method of alternative income!
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I'm in, I already dropped one big steaming deuce in Scout Maggies, I would be happy to creep them out some more.
As a fundraiser, you should sell votes to kick maser out - a dollar a pop, 5k gets the ban...or maybe 500...or just 50...
I can't believe I'm saying this shit, but unless I've missed something it seems to me that Maser has been pretty damned well behaved since his reinstatement. I'm sure as soon as I type that something horrible will happen....
Hurray, we're back -- tinfoil hats for everyone!
Frank I know you were trying to do bigger and brighter things, but I never liked the change and hardly ever went to the Scout site. I doubt I was alone. This will get me coming back (especially if this posts with my old screen name and avatar). Hopefully it won't take long to monetize your efforts here and you're able to make a living.
As for ads, I for one wouldn't be upset if they were targeted and require a click to launch something. Can you sell banner space here like other sites do, or are you stuck with a google feed? But please try to keep out pop-up ads or video ads that launch automatically. Nothing like having some trouble sleeping and trying to sneak in some gun p0rn on the computer only to have my wife woken by a video ad of people blasting on a firing line because I forgot to turn the sound off.
And listen keyboard warriors, there's a word for guys who don't worry about pissing their wives off at O-dark-thirty -- divorced. I don't want to be that guy.
Anyway, glad to be back Frank. I'll try not to get suspended for anything. Again.
And I am not the Cartman guy with the "you've activated my trap card" sig. There should be no confusion there. He has an, um, unmistakable posting style.
Frank I know you were trying to do bigger and brighter things, but I never liked the change and hardly ever went to the Scout site. I doubt I was alone. This will get me coming back (especially if this posts with my old screen name and avatar). Hopefully it won't take long to monetize your efforts here and you're able to make a living.
As for ads, I for one wouldn't be upset if they were targeted and require a click to launch something. Can you sell banner space here like other sites do, or are you stuck with a google feed? But please try to keep out pop-up ads or video ads that launch automatically. Nothing like having some trouble sleeping and trying to sneak in some gun p0rn on the computer only to have my wife woken by a video ad of people blasting on a firing line because I forgot to turn the sound off.
And listen keyboard warriors, there's a word for guys who don't worry about pissing their wives off at O-dark-thirty -- divorced. I don't want to be that guy.
Anyway, glad to be back Frank. I'll try not to get suspended for anything. Again.
And I am not the Cartman guy with the "you've activated my trap card" sig. There should be no confusion there. He has an, um, unmistakable posting style.
There should not be any pop up ads, my Android tablet gave me a pop up warning which was odd, as well all the ads will be from company we all use an love... no google ads
The best way to support the site is the online training section as we ramp up the ads, and unfortunately they are necessary thing to keep the lights on. We still have a lot of traffic and traffic cost money as does the work to keep the software functioning correctly.
No auto play videos ...
The best way to support the site is the online training section as we ramp up the ads, and unfortunately they are necessary thing to keep the lights on. We still have a lot of traffic and traffic cost money as does the work to keep the software functioning correctly.
No auto play videos ...
Sounds great.
Check out www.calguns.net
Notice the vendor ad boxes on the top. They sell those so those vendors can stay up and within easy access for customers to see, or find, and click directly to the vendor. I think they actually sell more than are visible. If you reload the page the ads cycle through other vendors. Something like that might be a way to have a steady income stream every month. Just a thought. And I, for one, would be love something like that. More than once I've had to do a search for a vendor and would have appreciated an "ad" like that that was easy to find. Obviously you have vendor ads. But an additional bar with many of them together would be convenient for us, and a possible source of extra cash for you, and more sales and recognition for the vendors. Just a thought.
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This is the only site where I'm now actually making it a point to click on ads on the premise that hitting an ad has some benefit. That 22 Nosler ad at the top is badass. I've now got a new project in mind.
If the site doesn't get rewarded for us hitting ads then let us know?
If the site doesn't get rewarded for us hitting ads then let us know?
Signed....
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Supporting the Sponsors and the Ads here definitely helps, when they look at their numbers they want to see clicks, even though we don't sell ads based on Clicks but Views, the Clicks are Icing on the cake so to speak ...
We have the vendor section below, direct sales and contact with the vendors in Orange is good too...
But we are working hard to get sorted out, the loss of two months via CBS/Scout hurt, but was not totally unexpected. I was hoping and thought they would pay the bill for January, that was a nasty turn of events but in the end, being finished with them is the best case.
it's amazing how many companies tried to get ads on SH when we were at Scout that were turned down. Now that I am gone you hear about them and some are signing up with us now.
This place has always been about the members and the support of the members is what keeps the lights on.
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Supporting the Sponsors and the Ads here definitely helps, when they look at their numbers they want to see clicks, even though we don't sell ads based on Clicks but Views, the Clicks are Icing on the cake so to speak ...
We have the vendor section below, direct sales and contact with the vendors in Orange is good too...
But we are working hard to get sorted out, the loss of two months via CBS/Scout hurt, but was not totally unexpected. I was hoping and thought they would pay the bill for January, that was a nasty turn of events but in the end, being finished with them is the best case.
it's amazing how many companies tried to get ads on SH when we were at Scout that were turned down. Now that I am gone you hear about them and some are signing up with us now.
This place has always been about the members and the support of the members is what keeps the lights on.
Awesome Frank. I know all of that completely sucked, but it's got to be a huge weight off of your shoulders; know that's all done and in the past. It's all about the future now, and it's off to a very strong start it sounds like.
Regarding this BS at CBS about THEY saying that "all is forgiven, please come back".... they are automatically thinking that they are the shot-caller in this situation. Don't "reverse" the tables on them, but show them how the table is actually set.
Your site works, is popular, is growing, and generates income. They and their site sucks, is tolerated, is definitely shrinking, and is hemorrhaging money.
You might want to (if you haven't already) just take the position of "This is what you're doing, you haven't forgiven them for their many transgressions, and what are they offering to entice you to bring your cornerstone in, to build up their failing structure?"
They need you alot more than you need them. So take the flight down, stay at the hotel, drive the rental car (that they put up for ya'll to meet) then take the preliminary cash bonus for meeting, and what's in their pockets (Good Will Hunting).... and then ebay all the swag-bag stuff that they think you'd fall for.
You'd get a trip out of the deal, and I'm sure you know somebody decent in the area. And things will continue to build and be good and well with the world, here.
Your site works, is popular, is growing, and generates income. They and their site sucks, is tolerated, is definitely shrinking, and is hemorrhaging money.
You might want to (if you haven't already) just take the position of "This is what you're doing, you haven't forgiven them for their many transgressions, and what are they offering to entice you to bring your cornerstone in, to build up their failing structure?"
They need you alot more than you need them. So take the flight down, stay at the hotel, drive the rental car (that they put up for ya'll to meet) then take the preliminary cash bonus for meeting, and what's in their pockets (Good Will Hunting).... and then ebay all the swag-bag stuff that they think you'd fall for.
You'd get a trip out of the deal, and I'm sure you know somebody decent in the area. And things will continue to build and be good and well with the world, here.
We are officially done, the site has a redirect on it and will be up for 30 days only then it gets shut down over there.
They put the full court press on me trying to get me to stay at Scout - (As I noted earlier, their contention was, "we are profitable and they wanted us back)
It was basically if you want your money for January and February you have to come back to the Scout network, or forfeit your payments for the 2 months. The problem is, to get paid I would have to chase Scout proper and get in line with the rest of the creditors, and as I said, they sold the site for $9.5M and the primary bank is owed $17M so the odds of us getting paid - 0
CBS had no problem denying me my payments as part of the tool to force me back to Scout... I took the loss and we are home.
The Scout / CBS chapter of the SH Life is over... it was a very costly lesson learned, but as they say, nothing ventured nothing gained. I did learn some things there, but the majority of those lessons is what not to do ever again.
They put the full court press on me trying to get me to stay at Scout - (As I noted earlier, their contention was, "we are profitable and they wanted us back)
It was basically if you want your money for January and February you have to come back to the Scout network, or forfeit your payments for the 2 months. The problem is, to get paid I would have to chase Scout proper and get in line with the rest of the creditors, and as I said, they sold the site for $9.5M and the primary bank is owed $17M so the odds of us getting paid - 0
CBS had no problem denying me my payments as part of the tool to force me back to Scout... I took the loss and we are home.
The Scout / CBS chapter of the SH Life is over... it was a very costly lesson learned, but as they say, nothing ventured nothing gained. I did learn some things there, but the majority of those lessons is what not to do ever again.
I glad things are back to the way they were. I am even glader to hear that going back to Scout is not an option. My wife loved the Scout site because it sucked so bad that the time I was spending on the hide was reduced about 90%. I really hated the auto-play video crap.
I understand things are busy, but is there a general idea when the training part of the Hide will be back up? And when its up will we be able to pay by CC? I hope we will not have to use anti gun PP service.
I understand things are busy, but is there a general idea when the training part of the Hide will be back up? And when its up will we be able to pay by CC? I hope we will not have to use anti gun PP service.
Online training is back up and running you have a section in your profile under "User Settings" where it says Subscriptions
It's working, and goes through Pay Pal, we are gonna look at relaunching the Store we had to do other options beyond Pay Pal, but right now the board uses Pay Pal
But the online training is there... and active
It's working, and goes through Pay Pal, we are gonna look at relaunching the Store we had to do other options beyond Pay Pal, but right now the board uses Pay Pal
But the online training is there... and active
I don't know your revenue numbers, but have friends who run other forums of this scale. It's a hit, yes. But in the big picture, it's short money. You are back with your independence. Your revenue models are solid. And, you know, if you add merchandising and endorsements to your revenue model... there is even more out there.
One of the interesting dynamics has been the point many members have made that they block ads everywhere.... except on SH. That's huge for your advertising model. Merchandise is another stream. Licensing the logo (and funny stuff) has a plus. And, last, endorsements from SH's owners and its members. You know how much companies pay for endorsements, reviews, etc. on products from the cognoscenti? Just ask Jeremy Clarkson and the guys at Top Gear. You are the Top Gear of shooting shit from far away.
Scout was worthwhile at the time... But homecoming now is an even better option. Remember, I was in marketing... or was that PsyOps. I can't remember. It's Thursday.
Cheers and keep the faith, LL. You have a gold mine here. Because you have a great community who appreciates your hard work.
Sirhr
The wisdom of keeping the old place on life support proved to be invaluable.
You should really fuck with them and ask them how much they'll take for the place.
CBS will do Scout what ABC has done to ESPN. Remember ESPN Outdoors? Remember when you wanted to have Sports Center on?
You should really fuck with them and ask them how much they'll take for the place.
CBS will do Scout what ABC has done to ESPN. Remember ESPN Outdoors? Remember when you wanted to have Sports Center on?
Perhaps Frank could make a few bucks selling stock, but if he sold too much then he would no longer be the owner. I think I have a better idea, If Frank needs to make more money he should auction a set number of hammers. Specifically ban hammers. Anyone possessing a ban hammer can ban another member for 30 days. The Ban Hammer would be a single use item, if you want to use in more than once you would need to out bid other hiders for another one.
To loosely quote Howard Wolowitz from The Big Bang Theory, upon purchasing said Hammer from the first recipient to obtain one here, then sell it on Egay:
"I am the Hammer Master!"
'Cause ya'll know there's some here who'd try to sell it, but pawn shops don't work in virtuals, so's I'm told.
"I am the Hammer Master!"
'Cause ya'll know there's some here who'd try to sell it, but pawn shops don't work in virtuals, so's I'm told.
hmmmmmm, then i would have to talk nice about my cousins in the Corps. But I think it will work.
The short man finally wore me down, I have never paid a subscription for any site ever but frank punishing us for being cheap and joining forces with the dark side for a few years has forced me to rethink this situation. How do you get this premium subscription?
Click on your profile and go to user settings. There is a box titled subscriptions on the left. It the opens a drop down menu to pick monthly or six month subscription.
That is funny and I think it is just right for this site... I can see a Ban Hammer War Happening ... I would probably have to do 10 days for $10 so it's not too bad on people
You should offer a "lifetime" subscription. Not sure what the price-point should be. I'd ink up on that.
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