Is this another option rather than buying factory case lube? Anyone try this method? If so, whats the PRO's and CON's?
http://www.tacticoolproducts.com/caselube/
http://www.tacticoolproducts.com/caselube/
Alternative to Case Lube?
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Re: Alternative to Case Lube?
Imperial sizing wax, does everything you need. It requires very little and easy to remove.
Imperial sizing wax, does everything you need. It requires very little and easy to remove.
Re: Alternative to Case Lube?
I don't see the reason it needs to be synthetic
the synthetic advantage to oils is for thermal break down and endurance
don't think the brass gets that hot during resizing
i would think standard oil will work fine
only down side i see would be contaminating you tumbler media with the oil
I don't see the reason it needs to be synthetic
the synthetic advantage to oils is for thermal break down and endurance
don't think the brass gets that hot during resizing
i would think standard oil will work fine
only down side i see would be contaminating you tumbler media with the oil
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rthur</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Imperial sizing wax, does everything you need. It requires very little and easy to remove. </div></div>
Imperial Sizing Wax is awesome stuff. The smallest amount goes a long way.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rthur</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Imperial sizing wax, does everything you need. It requires very little and easy to remove. </div></div>
Imperial Sizing Wax is awesome stuff. The smallest amount goes a long way.
Re: Alternative to Case Lube?
This....$6 for a lifetime supply of case lube, unless you use it for muzzleloader patch lube, leather preservation, or lubing your traps. Made from rendered mink fat, not the synthetic crap found at walmart in the shoe section.
This....$6 for a lifetime supply of case lube, unless you use it for muzzleloader patch lube, leather preservation, or lubing your traps. Made from rendered mink fat, not the synthetic crap found at walmart in the shoe section.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ubergeek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rthur</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Imperial sizing wax, does everything you need. It requires very little and easy to remove. </div></div>Imperial Sizing Wax is awesome stuff. The smallest amount goes a long way.</div></div>Look no further.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ubergeek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rthur</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Imperial sizing wax, does everything you need. It requires very little and easy to remove. </div></div>Imperial Sizing Wax is awesome stuff. The smallest amount goes a long way.</div></div>Look no further.
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While it might be useful to know what can be used as an adhoc case lube, if specific products become scarce, Imperial Sizing Die wax is inexpensive and widely available, I don't understand the need to try and save pennies a year reinventing the wheel.
That said, I've experimented and had good results with: motor oil, mink oil, carnauba wax, lanolin lotion, even wax from your nose and a few others. So, in a pinch I always have something.
While it might be useful to know what can be used as an adhoc case lube, if specific products become scarce, Imperial Sizing Die wax is inexpensive and widely available, I don't understand the need to try and save pennies a year reinventing the wheel.
That said, I've experimented and had good results with: motor oil, mink oil, carnauba wax, lanolin lotion, even wax from your nose and a few others. So, in a pinch I always have something.
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So many answers. Best and easiest: 1 part liquid lanolin. 1 part castor oil. 8 parts alcohol...pure, not 70%s stuff. Doesn't matter if isopropyl or Solox from the paint store. Spray bottle. Gallon ZipLok bag. Dump a couple hundred cases in the bag. Shake the mix of lanolin, castor oil and alcohol well in the spray bottle. Spray 3 or 4 times. Zip the bag and roll around. Dump them into a cardboard box. Allow to dry a few minutes. Size away. Takes more time to tell it than to do it. Imperial? I don't want to wipe each case each time. JMHO
So many answers. Best and easiest: 1 part liquid lanolin. 1 part castor oil. 8 parts alcohol...pure, not 70%s stuff. Doesn't matter if isopropyl or Solox from the paint store. Spray bottle. Gallon ZipLok bag. Dump a couple hundred cases in the bag. Shake the mix of lanolin, castor oil and alcohol well in the spray bottle. Spray 3 or 4 times. Zip the bag and roll around. Dump them into a cardboard box. Allow to dry a few minutes. Size away. Takes more time to tell it than to do it. Imperial? I don't want to wipe each case each time. JMHO
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Thats too much work, effort, mixing etc. All wet type lubes suck in my opinion.
I use this and only this for the case .....
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/519525/imperial-case-sizing-wax-2-oz
Use a crown royal bag or something similar. Rub a generous amount of wax into the inside of the bag. Drop 20 or 30 cases in the bag and rub them around for a minute. When they come out they have a perfect super fine coating of wax on them. Don't even really need to clean them afterwards. Then store the bag and use it each time to lube with. After a while, a nice layer of wax will have coated the inside surface of the bag and you won't have to recover it with wax for a very long time. When it gets all nasty and/or dirty, just throw the bag in the washer.
I use this and only this on my case necks ..........
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/319390/imperial-dry-neck-lube-1-oz-powder
after waxing up your cases, you just dip the case neck into the little ceramic balls. The balls apply a thin coat of powder to the inside and outside of the neck. You don't have to clean it out and can go straight to pouring powder and seating the bullet.
Best thing I ever bought ..... and it lasts for ever .... literally.
Thats too much work, effort, mixing etc. All wet type lubes suck in my opinion.
I use this and only this for the case .....
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/519525/imperial-case-sizing-wax-2-oz
Use a crown royal bag or something similar. Rub a generous amount of wax into the inside of the bag. Drop 20 or 30 cases in the bag and rub them around for a minute. When they come out they have a perfect super fine coating of wax on them. Don't even really need to clean them afterwards. Then store the bag and use it each time to lube with. After a while, a nice layer of wax will have coated the inside surface of the bag and you won't have to recover it with wax for a very long time. When it gets all nasty and/or dirty, just throw the bag in the washer.
I use this and only this on my case necks ..........
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/319390/imperial-dry-neck-lube-1-oz-powder
after waxing up your cases, you just dip the case neck into the little ceramic balls. The balls apply a thin coat of powder to the inside and outside of the neck. You don't have to clean it out and can go straight to pouring powder and seating the bullet.
Best thing I ever bought ..... and it lasts for ever .... literally.
Re: Alternative to Case Lube?
I never heard of Imperial Wax. But after reading what you guys are saying on here, and reviews on the internet, looks like I might have to get some.
The only thing the guy didnt say was how to get the oil from inside of the case. Yea, Im sure tumbling will work, but for how long? What guarantee do you have that you got all the oil out of the inside of the case?
I never heard of Imperial Wax. But after reading what you guys are saying on here, and reviews on the internet, looks like I might have to get some.
The only thing the guy didnt say was how to get the oil from inside of the case. Yea, Im sure tumbling will work, but for how long? What guarantee do you have that you got all the oil out of the inside of the case?
Re: Alternative to Case Lube?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't understand the need to try and save pennies a year reinventing the wheel.</div></div>
Amen, brother.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't understand the need to try and save pennies a year reinventing the wheel.</div></div>
Amen, brother.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jackalope33B</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I never heard of Imperial Wax. But after reading what you guys are saying on here, and reviews on the internet, looks like I might have to get some.
The only thing the guy didnt say was how to get the oil from inside of the case. Yea, Im sure tumbling will work, but for how long? What guarantee do you have that you got all the oil out of the inside of the case? </div></div>
Imperial Sizing Wax goes on the outside only, should you have a need to lube the inside of the neck go with a dry lube, I use Imperial Sizing Wax for neck turning lube, on there first firing what ever is left on the inside of the neck hasn't hurt anything, after that the only lube if any inside the neck is graphite powder(Imperial Dry Lube)
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jackalope33B</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I never heard of Imperial Wax. But after reading what you guys are saying on here, and reviews on the internet, looks like I might have to get some.
The only thing the guy didnt say was how to get the oil from inside of the case. Yea, Im sure tumbling will work, but for how long? What guarantee do you have that you got all the oil out of the inside of the case? </div></div>
Imperial Sizing Wax goes on the outside only, should you have a need to lube the inside of the neck go with a dry lube, I use Imperial Sizing Wax for neck turning lube, on there first firing what ever is left on the inside of the neck hasn't hurt anything, after that the only lube if any inside the neck is graphite powder(Imperial Dry Lube)
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I came across wrong "The only thing the guy didnt say was how to get the oil from inside of the case. Yea, Im sure tumbling will work, but for how long? What guarantee do you have that you got all the oil out of the inside of the case? "
I was reffering to the guy in the video who was using Castrol Oil, not any of you guys using Imperial Wax.. Sorry for the confusion.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427Cobra</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jackalope33B</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I never heard of Imperial Wax. But after reading what you guys are saying on here, and reviews on the internet, looks like I might have to get some.
The only thing the guy didnt say was how to get the oil from inside of the case. Yea, Im sure tumbling will work, but for how long? What guarantee do you have that you got all the oil out of the inside of the case? </div></div>
Imperial Sizing Wax goes on the outside only, should you have a need to lube the inside of the neck go with a dry lube, I use Imperial Sizing Wax for neck turning lube, on there first firing what ever is left on the inside of the neck hasn't hurt anything, after that the only lube if any inside the neck is graphite powder(Imperial Dry Lube) </div></div>
I came across wrong "The only thing the guy didnt say was how to get the oil from inside of the case. Yea, Im sure tumbling will work, but for how long? What guarantee do you have that you got all the oil out of the inside of the case? "
I was reffering to the guy in the video who was using Castrol Oil, not any of you guys using Imperial Wax.. Sorry for the confusion.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427Cobra</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jackalope33B</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I never heard of Imperial Wax. But after reading what you guys are saying on here, and reviews on the internet, looks like I might have to get some.
The only thing the guy didnt say was how to get the oil from inside of the case. Yea, Im sure tumbling will work, but for how long? What guarantee do you have that you got all the oil out of the inside of the case? </div></div>
Imperial Sizing Wax goes on the outside only, should you have a need to lube the inside of the neck go with a dry lube, I use Imperial Sizing Wax for neck turning lube, on there first firing what ever is left on the inside of the neck hasn't hurt anything, after that the only lube if any inside the neck is graphite powder(Imperial Dry Lube) </div></div>
Re: Alternative to Case Lube?
I think you'll find if you try Emperial wax and dry neck lube, you'll more than likley never go back to a wet or spray lube ever again.
I think you'll find if you try Emperial wax and dry neck lube, you'll more than likley never go back to a wet or spray lube ever again.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Muttt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think you'll find if you try Emperial wax and dry neck lube, you'll more than likley never go back to a wet or spray lube ever again. </div></div>
I have Imperial, and I use it for small jobs.
However, I keep about 250-300 cases "in play" at a time. I don't process them until they ALL (or damn near), need processing. There ain't no way in hell I'm doping up 250 cases individually, or 20 at a time inside a CR bag. Lanolin, Alcohol, spray bottle, ziplock...dump into casefeeder, pull lever. I've yet to stick a case with this method, and honestly, it feels just as slick as imperial during FLSing.
Additionally, I run 45.5gr Varget under a 175smk in my 308, and it's on the ragged edge of pressure. I must be *sure* my brass has no residual lube on it, or I'll get pressure signs. I use stainless media, and I have yet to find a soap that truly CLEANS Imperial off my cases 100%. Ain't no way in hell I'm individually wiping wax off all my brass.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Muttt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think you'll find if you try Emperial wax and dry neck lube, you'll more than likley never go back to a wet or spray lube ever again. </div></div>
I have Imperial, and I use it for small jobs.
However, I keep about 250-300 cases "in play" at a time. I don't process them until they ALL (or damn near), need processing. There ain't no way in hell I'm doping up 250 cases individually, or 20 at a time inside a CR bag. Lanolin, Alcohol, spray bottle, ziplock...dump into casefeeder, pull lever. I've yet to stick a case with this method, and honestly, it feels just as slick as imperial during FLSing.
Additionally, I run 45.5gr Varget under a 175smk in my 308, and it's on the ragged edge of pressure. I must be *sure* my brass has no residual lube on it, or I'll get pressure signs. I use stainless media, and I have yet to find a soap that truly CLEANS Imperial off my cases 100%. Ain't no way in hell I'm individually wiping wax off all my brass.
Re: Alternative to Case Lube?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Additionally, I run 45.5gr Varget under a 175smk in my 308, and it's on the ragged edge of pressure. I must be *sure* my brass has no residual lube on it, or I'll get pressure signs. <span style="font-weight: bold">I use stainless media, and I have yet to find a soap that truly CLEANS Imperial off my cases 100%. Ain't no way in hell I'm individually wiping wax off all my brass.</span> </div></div>
Really? I find that hot water and a good quality lemon dish soap swished around in the kitchen sink gets rid of all traces of Imperial Wax. However I've found that a final 10 min clean in the stainless steel media with lemishine and dishsoap does the job even better.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Additionally, I run 45.5gr Varget under a 175smk in my 308, and it's on the ragged edge of pressure. I must be *sure* my brass has no residual lube on it, or I'll get pressure signs. <span style="font-weight: bold">I use stainless media, and I have yet to find a soap that truly CLEANS Imperial off my cases 100%. Ain't no way in hell I'm individually wiping wax off all my brass.</span> </div></div>
Really? I find that hot water and a good quality lemon dish soap swished around in the kitchen sink gets rid of all traces of Imperial Wax. However I've found that a final 10 min clean in the stainless steel media with lemishine and dishsoap does the job even better.
Re: Alternative to Case Lube?
I have used imperial for many years and will for many more. I just bought 2 cans of the Hornady spray lube. it works. It will come off in hot water, so everyone that uses stainless steel/Hot water/soap/Lemmishine no worries. Try it, you'll like it.
I have used imperial for many years and will for many more. I just bought 2 cans of the Hornady spray lube. it works. It will come off in hot water, so everyone that uses stainless steel/Hot water/soap/Lemmishine no worries. Try it, you'll like it.
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I load pretty high volume and imperial is just too slow for me. I used the Midway/Frankford Arsenal and Dillon spray lubes and liked them. I then switched to the home-made lanolin/castor oil/99% isopropyl recipe and it works at least as well. I don't get stuck cases. I full-length size LC 762 and 556 with ease.
I got a Larry Willis belted magnum die and he specifically recommends Imperial wax and I will try it the next time I use that die.
I load pretty high volume and imperial is just too slow for me. I used the Midway/Frankford Arsenal and Dillon spray lubes and liked them. I then switched to the home-made lanolin/castor oil/99% isopropyl recipe and it works at least as well. I don't get stuck cases. I full-length size LC 762 and 556 with ease.
I got a Larry Willis belted magnum die and he specifically recommends Imperial wax and I will try it the next time I use that die.
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How many parts of each do you mix for the home-made lanolin/castor oil/99% isopropyl recipe ?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: colt933</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I load pretty high volume and imperial is just too slow for me. I used the Midway/Frankford Arsenal and Dillon spray lubes and liked them. I then switched to the home-made lanolin/castor oil/99% isopropyl recipe and it works at least as well. I don't get stuck cases. I full-length size LC 762 and 556 with ease.
I got a Larry Willis belted magnum die and he specifically recommends Imperial wax and I will try it the next time I use that die. </div></div>
How many parts of each do you mix for the home-made lanolin/castor oil/99% isopropyl recipe ?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: colt933</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I load pretty high volume and imperial is just too slow for me. I used the Midway/Frankford Arsenal and Dillon spray lubes and liked them. I then switched to the home-made lanolin/castor oil/99% isopropyl recipe and it works at least as well. I don't get stuck cases. I full-length size LC 762 and 556 with ease.
I got a Larry Willis belted magnum die and he specifically recommends Imperial wax and I will try it the next time I use that die. </div></div>
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I just throw them into the vibrating tumbler for 10 min and all the wax is gone
I just throw them into the vibrating tumbler for 10 min and all the wax is gone
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Lanolin is the best sizing lube period .Ive tried all this other stuff and it works ok for normal loading but for reforming cases Lanolin mixed with alcohol works best ,such as the stuff Dillon sells or you can make your own . Arnie
Lanolin is the best sizing lube period .Ive tried all this other stuff and it works ok for normal loading but for reforming cases Lanolin mixed with alcohol works best ,such as the stuff Dillon sells or you can make your own . Arnie
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jackalope33B</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How many parts of each do you mix for the home-made lanolin/castor oil/99% isopropyl recipe ?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: colt933</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I load pretty high volume and imperial is just too slow for me. I used the Midway/Frankford Arsenal and Dillon spray lubes and liked them. I then switched to the home-made lanolin/castor oil/99% isopropyl recipe and it works at least as well. I don't get stuck cases. I full-length size LC 762 and 556 with ease.
I got a Larry Willis belted magnum die and he specifically recommends Imperial wax and I will try it the next time I use that die. </div></div> </div></div>
I got the solid anhydrous lanolin. Get the liquid anhydrous lanolin instead - it's plug and play. 1 part anhydrous lanolin, 1 part castor oil, 8 parts 91 or 99% isopropyl. Do NOT get 70% isopropyl. Heat some water in a sauce pan on your stove, not to boiling, but hotter than from your water heater. Remove from heat. Put your alcohol in your spray bottle. Put the bottle in the water to heat the alcohol. Add the liquid lanolin and castor oil. Let all warm to the temperature of the water. When warm, shake it up to mix thoroughly. Done. The solid lanolin is trickier and I recommend against it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jackalope33B</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How many parts of each do you mix for the home-made lanolin/castor oil/99% isopropyl recipe ?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: colt933</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I load pretty high volume and imperial is just too slow for me. I used the Midway/Frankford Arsenal and Dillon spray lubes and liked them. I then switched to the home-made lanolin/castor oil/99% isopropyl recipe and it works at least as well. I don't get stuck cases. I full-length size LC 762 and 556 with ease.
I got a Larry Willis belted magnum die and he specifically recommends Imperial wax and I will try it the next time I use that die. </div></div> </div></div>
I got the solid anhydrous lanolin. Get the liquid anhydrous lanolin instead - it's plug and play. 1 part anhydrous lanolin, 1 part castor oil, 8 parts 91 or 99% isopropyl. Do NOT get 70% isopropyl. Heat some water in a sauce pan on your stove, not to boiling, but hotter than from your water heater. Remove from heat. Put your alcohol in your spray bottle. Put the bottle in the water to heat the alcohol. Add the liquid lanolin and castor oil. Let all warm to the temperature of the water. When warm, shake it up to mix thoroughly. Done. The solid lanolin is trickier and I recommend against it.
Re: Alternative to Case Lube?
Hornady One-Shot...
Never a stuck case, spray fifty cases in the loading block in ten seconds. Spraying at a 45 deg angle gets it into the case necks and the stuff has no effect on the powder.
I've never even considered using anything else...
I'm about to load 300 cases tomorrow. If I had to lube one case at a time, I'd blow my brains out.
Hornady One-Shot...
Never a stuck case, spray fifty cases in the loading block in ten seconds. Spraying at a 45 deg angle gets it into the case necks and the stuff has no effect on the powder.
I've never even considered using anything else...
I'm about to load 300 cases tomorrow. If I had to lube one case at a time, I'd blow my brains out.
