I’m planning a build on a bolt gun 6arc chassis gun bases around the Howa mini action. The chassis I chose is the Accurate Mag sport tac lite. I’m having trouble finding an American made optic in the mid power range from 2 or 3 power at the bottom to 18+ at the top as well as FFP, budget isn’t really an Issue as long as its not 3k +. The reason I want American made is simply because I don’t want to pay for something that a general optics manufacturer in china is making for 10 different brands that all just dress it up differently and add different reticles.
American made medium power optic (3-18+)
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I would definitely be open to European or Canadian, I’m mainly just trying avoid the possibility of poor QC that comes from china, and I’m looking for something with extreme optical quality
You’re not really gonna much. Maybe the Leupold stuff but optical quality is ok. The vortex AMG is discontinued now. Go European and you’ll have better luck.
Entirely USA made:
Non illuminated Burris XTR3
USO FDN 17X
Razor AMG
Built in the US:
Nightforce ATACR 4-16 or 4-20
Leupold MK5 3-18
If money isn't a concern, maybe look at ZCO, Schmidt, and Kahles for Euro glass, or March for Japanese glass.
Non illuminated Burris XTR3
USO FDN 17X
Razor AMG
Built in the US:
Nightforce ATACR 4-16 or 4-20
Leupold MK5 3-18
If money isn't a concern, maybe look at ZCO, Schmidt, and Kahles for Euro glass, or March for Japanese glass.
I appreciate it, I was looking into the US optics txh 3-18 but read that it’s made by the same Chinese company that makes the vortex strike eagle. I’m looking into khales as I saw the review Area 419 did on some high end optics
Take Doug up on his offer. He will hook you up with a great price on a nice optic; and will give you several options. CameraLand sells most of the brands mentioned in this thread so he doesn't have to push one brand over the other. Just lays it out straight and you can decide what makes the most sense. I've seen him jump in to help folks on this forum get their optic serviced, even if they didn't sell it. Very few vendors out there will go to that level.
My .02 cents is If you can deal with the 4x on the bottom end, I think the 4-16 ATACR is a better optic than the mk5 3.6-18 if durability is a primary consideration, but either should meet your requirements. To my eyes I can't tell much of a difference in glass quality between the two.
My .02 cents is If you can deal with the 4x on the bottom end, I think the 4-16 ATACR is a better optic than the mk5 3.6-18 if durability is a primary consideration, but either should meet your requirements. To my eyes I can't tell much of a difference in glass quality between the two.
"Entirely" meaning not just assembled in the USA like Vortex, Leupold, or NF. Not sure where lenses are being sourced. USO claimed to have it all from local stuff, but a recent video said "Asia". They may have made some changes in recent production.
Anymore, it's nigh impossible to have everything sourced in the USA.
Anymore, it's nigh impossible to have everything sourced in the USA.
I have added this to my list to chose from euro optic seems to have a good deal on them at the moment.
This is true but the main goal is to get 99% or more of the manufacturing of the optic out of somewhere other than Asia excluding Japan because they make quality glass.
The durability is a consideration but I’m hoping by not cheaping out on a high quality optic will take care of the durability, i mainly would like the 3 power or lower on the low end just because i want to use it for hunting as well and its just that much faster to find a target in the optic with a lower magnification, that being said if the night force has a ridiculously higher fov then that would midigate the need for the lower power.
Good luck.
The American made optics I’ve owned are inferior to Japanese optics.
Mk5’s are one of the most over priced optics on the market.
The Steiner is almost perfect, but suffers a major flaw. The reticle isn’t sized correctly. It’s not usable until about 14x.
The American made optics I’ve owned are inferior to Japanese optics.
Mk5’s are one of the most over priced optics on the market.
The Steiner is almost perfect, but suffers a major flaw. The reticle isn’t sized correctly. It’s not usable until about 14x.
For that price yes it is but, the website you sent me has it listed at $ 2199. If you’re extending a deal to me I greatly appreciate it but I don’t want to get your hopes up for a purchase at this time, I do still have to save up for it. I was mainly looking to see what options I had and I greatly appreciate your input. This optic is in my top 3 for sure.
I find mine “usable” during daylight starting around 6 power. Comes into its own around 10x. It’s very usable at dusk with illumination on 3x, perfect for hunting. MSR2.
I had the scr2.
Even at 6 power that’s unacceptable. Not really a point in having 3x if the reticle can’t be seen.
My Zeiss 4-25 is usable in daylight on 4x
More people need to take notes from Zeiss.
Agree that the reticles not matching the mag range is poor execution, but man I hated the Zeiss reticle. Was the main reason I sold mine.
American made? Exactly how much American made? Would Eotech or Trijicon make the cut? Though if you mean 100% American, I dont think that exists anymore after Weaver shut down in Texas I believe. I'm not sure if this country even makes riflescope glass any longer. Hate sayin this, but if you're just worried about QC issues, not sure American would be the top place I'd look to for a good scope. The Japanese and Germans I think outshine us in that area. For now anyways, unless we have some massive cultural shifts in this country's next generation of kids.
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Bumping this older thread. I think Im set on a Steiner Tx6i 3-18 but I’d definitely still like to see what else is out there even if it’s not US made I just want something where there is almost a zero chance I get a lemon and the quality is a major priority for said company. Try to avoid Chinese manufacturers because don’t want to give money to them even if it means I have to pay a bigger price.
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I love mine with the MSR2 reticle. With the illumination on it is useable on the lower end since it only lights up the center of the reticle, and it is awesome from 8x-18x. It is also built super rugged and should be able to take quite a beating. I don't think you'll be disappointed!
I watched C_DOES review on it and I really liked what he has to say on it. He is arguably the best optics reviewer on YouTube in my opinion no offense to snipers hide because I know they have a dedicated optics reviewer that knows his stuff but I’ve just never looked at his stuff.
Have the Steiner 3-18 and 2-12 in mils and both are fantastic. Can't go wrong. I always like the 3-18 mag range for some reason but appreciate the form factor of the 2-12's. The 3-18 isn't much bigger than the 2-12's of yore and it's on the lighter side for optics in that magnification range. Plus the illumination goes to 11 for Spinal Tap fans.
Vs the Meopta Optika6 3-18. The Steiner is a good bit smaller.
Vs the Meopta Optika6 3-18. The Steiner is a good bit smaller.
It moves around a bit but mostly resides on a POF Revolution DI in 308 with the 16.5" barrel. Amazingly lightweight package and it's a one off POF did for me in ODG. I think they're more available in ODG now but it's not a regular offering from what I've seen. I have a piston P415 12.5" and it's a good pound heavier than the Revolution.
My plan is to but it on a 6arc bolt gun so weight isn’t a huge issue but I like the form factor being shorter. I wish they had this optic in odg, or fde though because I plan to paint my rifle.
There's a lot of stuff you can do these days. There are wraps that aren't permanent and add a degree of surface protection too. There's also low temp cerakote if you have the time/money to have that done.
The problem is the US made scopes all have big compromises.
The Steiner T6xi is a US made scope by Steiner/burris. If you can deal with CA, its a great little optic for the money.
The chance of having issue with a US made scope is MUCH greater than quality jappense or euro glass.
Honestly just figure out a price range and then pick the best optic in that bracket for whatever you want to do.
The Steiner T6xi is a US made scope by Steiner/burris. If you can deal with CA, its a great little optic for the money.
The chance of having issue with a US made scope is MUCH greater than quality jappense or euro glass.
Honestly just figure out a price range and then pick the best optic in that bracket for whatever you want to do.
There is no such thing. If you want the best chance of a optic that is not a Lemon, be ready to shell out $4K+. Even then stuff still breaks.
There are two types of shooters those who have had to send optics back for repair and those who don't shoot enough.
I’m fine with dealing with broken parts I just want to avoid optics that come from the factory broken. QC is important to me nothing irks me more than a company who isn’t proud enough of their work to go through the little process it takes to make sure they are sending the best quality of product they can feasibility produce for the price the charge for it. I get stuff breaks it’s unavoidable but it shouldn’t come broken if you know what I mean.
Tract or Maven 2.5 -15. Quality, Japanese sourced scopes.
Delta Stryker 3.5-21, also a quality, Japanese sourced scope.
ZeroTech Trace Advanced 4-24 might be worth a look, also Japanese.
Delta Stryker 3.5-21, also a quality, Japanese sourced scope.
ZeroTech Trace Advanced 4-24 might be worth a look, also Japanese.
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