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Oh really? I hate to break it to ya, but I came from a poor mexican family (legally) and instead of playing the victim card my grandparents, picked the fields and saved their money (no welfare, wic or any other govt assistance. If they didn't have it, they bartered for it) . Were proud Americans (no mexican flags waving crap) and wanted everyone in their household to learn and speak English. So, you can keep excusing Blacks and their victim card all you want but in reality, no matter what your economic status is, you can dig yourself out of it with a bit of work, and perseverance.

Of course, I never said different. Same as my (white) grandfather and grandmother...dirt poor' baca' farming rednecks, never went to school a day in their lives. who taught themselves to read and write, bought a home etc. But had he had education he would have accomplished more..if thats important. The point Im trying to make is that if you start much closer to the top there is less digging to do.
 
My reading comprehension is spot-on, I just couldn't bother to relay any more of your idiotic crap. You constantly contradict yourself and just about every dumbass thread you post. Why are you even on snipers hide?? You're clearly a Fucking Snowflake with the constitution of nothing more than a whiny little bitch.

And youre clearly a faggot. Back to mom's basement with ya.
 
God we are so lucky to have you here to sympathize with the oppressed, God bless your little snowflake heart Maggie..

Like I said, back to mommies basement with ya.
 
Jerry,

What they cant seem to get is the difference between 'Positional' and 'Experiential'.

Lets examine this quote....

"All men are created equal."

Positionally, by the Constitution, all men are equal. In actual life experience,I dont see how anyone could say we are all equal. Could Steven Hawkings play tight end on the Patriots? Other than a savant, can autistic children learn Calculus. Unlikely.

So positionally, we may all have the same opportunities, but realistically, experientially, we dont all have the same shot at those opportunities.

If everyone in your family has gone to Harvard for 6 generations and accumulated billions of $$$ their opportunity level is 'positionally' equal to a poverty strapped black kid who went to PS 316, experientially its not a level playing field.

If Big Bush, dropped a couple million into the Harvard trust fund, Little Georgie gets in even if he is a dufus and some bright but impoverished misses his shot . That is not equal.

As I said, its changing, but the problem didnt occur in a generation and change of this magnitude doesnt happen in a generation, or even two.

So fucking what?

That's the way it will always be. In fact, that's the way it SHOULD be.
 
So fucking what?

That's the way it will always be. In fact, that's the way it SHOULD be.

Better to shut your mouth and be thought a fool than open it and prove the same.
 
IMHO, breakdown of the traditional nuclear family has more to do with future 'success', than does race.

Find a child who had a Father to keep him/her in line, and I'll bet that child's pursuit of the American Dream can indeed become a reality. Whereas, a child who grew up Father-less is an a HUGE disadvantage, for sooooo many reasons...

That conclusion, in & of itself, has NOTHING to do with race. However, if you take into account the much higher incidence of (Father-less) single parent black families, then....viola! There's your "inequality", and race has nothing to do with it!

Government subsidies, housing, EBT cards, Affirmative Action, or any other 'handouts' can never supplant the benefits of growing up within an intact nuclear family unit. That's why they don't work...

Pretty simple, really.

 
And youre clearly a faggot. Back to mom's basement with ya.

WOOOOOW.. what's with all this talk of basements, is that why you're so sensitive, did Mommy and Uncle take you down in the basement and touch your naughty parts??

 
You can tell when you are winning an argument when the other person resorts to personal attacks....... I think we know who I'm talking about here......Have a good day gentlemen!

Thank you.
 
IMHO, breakdown of the traditional nuclear family has more to do with future 'success', than does race.

Find a child who had a Father to keep him/her in line, and I'll bet that child's pursuit of the American Dream can indeed become a reality. Whereas, a child who grew up Father-less is an a HUGE disadvantage, for sooooo many reasons...

That conclusion, in & of itself, has NOTHING to do with race. However, if you take into account the much higher incidence of (Father-less) single parent black families, then....viola! There's your "inequality", and race has nothing to do with it!

Government subsidies, housing, EBT cards, Affirmative Action, or any other 'handouts' can never supplant the benefits of growing up within an intact nuclear family unit. That's why they don't work...

Pretty simple, really.

There is some validity to what you say but if one has one parent, a mother only does not predispose you to poverty. I know because I was raised by a single mother. She raised me and 3 others in the sixties seventies when women were not supposed to be able to do that.

If you have one parent who gives a shit that's enough. Not Ideal but enough. I was not a saint, but when I got off course she would straighten me out.

We were dirt poor in the beginning but she worked her ass off to give us what we needed. Funny thing is I never knew we were poor. I always had a roof, food and clothes. Not much else but I survived.
 
There is some validity to what you say but if one has one parent, a mother only does not predispose you to poverty. I know because I was raised by a single mother. She raised me and 3 others in the sixties seventies when women were not supposed to be able to do that.

If you have one parent who gives a shit that's enough. Not Ideal but enough. I was not a saint, but when I got off course she would straighten me out.

We were dirt poor in the beginning but she worked her ass off to give us what we needed. Funny thing is I never knew we were poor. I always had a roof, food and clothes. Not much else but I survived.

I never mentioned 'poverty', specifically. But it is one of the "soooo many reasons" that a Father could/would have helped along with. I was speaking more to the guidance, discipline, and overall stability that a Father brings to the family unit...

Also agree, one parent who gives a shit can be enough to raise a child right. My Father died suddenly from an unforeseen medical condition, leaving my Mother with a 10, 7, and 5 year old to raise on her own. The three of us are all living decent lives now, so reckon our Moms both did a pretty good job? That said, I'm sure we can both appreciate what missing a Father was like, and how that void in a child's life is sometimes not adequately filled...
 
I never mentioned 'poverty', specifically. But it is one of the "soooo many reasons" that a Father could/would have helped along with. I was speaking more to the guidance, discipline, and overall stability that a Father brings to the family unit...

Also agree, one parent who gives a shit can be enough to raise a child right. My Father died suddenly from an unforeseen medical condition, leaving my Mother with a 10, 7, and 5 year old to raise on her own. The three of us are all living decent lives now, so reckon our Moms both did a pretty good job? That said, I'm sure we can both appreciate what missing a Father was like, and how that void in a child's life is sometimes not adequately filled...

No doubt Two are better and yes I think having a father present would have changed my life for the better. The problems in the black community is both Parents in out of wedlock families are usually too young and naive to grasp the consequences of their actions. No one is teaching them that they are responsible for their actions. So, they have no sense of the repercussions of those actions. Thus they move forward with reckless abandon. Then the children and the entire community pay the price.

White people cant fix this. Money thrown at it won't help. When the Black Community finally decides they are tired of it, only then will it change. That seems so far away because everyone is telling them it is someone else to blame. They will never be Free as long as their Hearts and Souls are enslaved by their own Hatred. JMHO

If a Black man had said the above it would be enlightening and inspirational. But being said by a White man makes it Racist.
 
Completing school is a daily decision, the one to get up, get out, and get the job done. You either do it, or you don't; and claiming excuses, blaming others when this does not happen is just another case of SJW whining.

We all did it in my time, it's just become the less popular option in the instances where the government supplies the excuses, and removes the penalties we all had to face back in my day.

I remember when The Great Society became the norm, and my Dad warned me that I was going to need stronger legs from then on, because I was going to be carrying at least one welfare recipient on my back for the rest of my life. That man became a prophet that day.

So yes, SJW advocates among us, whine on. We know where you're coming from. It's our pockets that pay the freight and it's your hands that are lightening our particular burden, subsisting by mining those receptacles; if not you personally, then at least by those champions of Social Justice you insist on justifying every incessant damned day.

This is the day this worm turns.

I have had it with this SJW crap where Marx's "from each according to his ability to each according to his need". has become the snide window dressing for the insidious wealth transference based class warfare that has been foisted on this society since the days of Teddy Roosevelt. It's socialist, it's communist, and it's not any American way I want to see perpetuated any further at the cost of hard working, hard voting folks who bear their own burdens as well as the burdens of the indolent honestly and peacefully, day in, day out.

Now, the recipients have become so emboldened by the Progressive excesses of the past decades that they are openly, viciously turning on their benefactors, embracing the role of "Victim", supposedly bearing unbearable burdens. Their burdens are the burdens of the spoiled rotten.

This pendulum must be reaching its limit. Either that, or the whole assemblage will tip completely over. Rightly so, too. I don't fear it, I welcome it, it's long overdue.

We see TV advertisements with actors beseeching us to call a phone number and accept their touted insurance funded drug rehab, insisting that drug addiction is a disease. It is not a disease, it is irresponsible behavior, and those scrub dressed jack holes are just helping enrich themselves as they put another welfare recipient up there on the backs of the responsible tax payers and voters who have become the true endangered species thanks to the Deep State. The Deep State resists altering the Obamacare mandated insurance that insists that we who pay must also pay to bail out the irresponsible who simply can't find a way to endure their welfare existences by doing the responsible thing. So doing, our health insurance becomes yet another way to get yet another of those indolent jack holes up there on the backs of the productive, responsible folks who foot all the bills these days.

Mouth all the excuses you like, insist that they can't help themselves, can't stay the course, must be "assisted" by the dwindling productive sector of our Nation, under the penalty of existing law.

My generation managed it,. This one doesn't have to. The Deep State guarantees it. It's not longer a matter of choice, it's a question of survival; survival of the productive class, survival of any Nation we would hope to continue calling the USA.

A civil war is brewing, the first shots have already flown. What happens now is something that needs to be very carefully considered by all involved. Nothing good will come from it, can come from it; but something different will follow it. I hope it's better, but really, I'm probably not going to get to see it at my age. I probably couldn't handle that change. I hope the rest of you can, but again, as I say, it probably won't be my problem when it comes around.

Sides, for the most part, for the important part, are already chosen. Escalation continues, and the tip over point is right there in sight. Flinch, don't flinch, it matters little; these brazen Antifa/Anarchist freaks will not allow matters to cool down. They are deliberately inditing direct rebellion. These people are not delicate snowflakes, they are vicious pyroclastic bombs.

Too bad, because I suspect it's their loss, a big loss, and the "issues" aren't even real for them, they're just excuses to spill rage and violence anywhere and everywhere they can, for violence sake. They will suffer for it, probably not enough to be poetic, and a lot of innocent folks will also suffer. People you know, people you value, will be among them.

People you also know are funding Antifa, Resist.org, and direct opposition interest groups, People like Hillary, with her leftover $130,000,000 in campaign funding. People like Soros, Google, and Big Banks are doing it too.

This is what we get visited upon us when we get along to go along. When misbehavior gets ignored and tolerated as the alternative to standing up and objecting, worse follows as day follows night, and when the inevitable arrives, it's all the uglier for our lack of backbone.

If you wonder why traditional values are so hard to find lately, you don't have to look far. The entertainment scene has become the campground of the unorthodox and iconoclasts. I will point out that it's a college professor who's doing all the complaining about some of traditional values. You don't need to take my word for it, you can read it yourself.

If you can't see that this is the critical juncture, if you're not committed to making that difference bringing our Nation back to a productive and worthy society, then you not part of the solution, you're not part of the problem, you're all of it, and we have some of you right here on The 'Hide.

We are not better for your contributions.

I will deal with you the easy way, the cop out way. I'll simply ignore you. It's better for my blood pressure.

I hope you do the same with me. Engaging you in dialogue stopped being a productive exercise back when we started giving the trolls free rein here some years back, and began treasuring them for their entertainment value. I can no longer see them as providing entertainment of any wholesome or desirable manner.

Yes, I'm an elder fart with elder values, it says so right there in my profile. You don't have to listen to me, you can simply ignore me, as I do you. I hope you do.

Greg
 
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Just a newbie, but I had to comment on this. For 15 years I volunteered with a Marine Corps Junior ROTC at a high school in Florida. It was a 95% black school with most of the students living in the Hood. Police rarely went in with less than two cars. Simply put, it was a bad situation for the kids growing up there.
While I would like to say that there is no disadvantage to being black, that isn't necessarily true. It isn't the race thing, it's the culture of the ghetto that must be overcome. The kids who excelled were faced daily with peer pressure from the kids they grew up with who were in gangs or heavy into drugs. Most had more friends dead than they could count on their fingers. It is a difficult process to overcome this every day and make something out of yourself. I'm not saying this as a cop out for anyone, it can be done. Two of them are graduating from Parris Island tomorrow as some of our newest Marines.
BLM is not the answer and Antifa sure as Hell isn't either. Positive role models and a sense of self are required to change this whole mess around.