Jump up to cars and look at NASA and SCCA.F1 fan here! I grew up racing karts all around the southwest in So. Cal, so F1 was my motivation. Was never attracted to NASCAR, since real racers turn left AND right My only claim to racing fame was that I out qualified(but was later over taken by) Scott Speed(Former Red bull/Toro Rosso driver back in 05'? 06?) when we were racking karts. I wanted to stuff his kart into the dirt on a few turns after he overtook me haha Favorite driver was Schummi. But, my team is still Ferrari. I sure miss and love karting though....I needed to do something with my life besides race karts and smoke weed. Life and military eventually got in the way of racing. Trying to get back into it years later, I found that karting isn't what it used to be and most all the tracks I raced at are mostly gone now. Any kart racers on here? Is karting still present in the states?
I agree that Renault's history with Alonso plays a big part in this. However I think an even larger part is that Renault seriously needs a good...nay a great development driver, and not just any development driver, but one that the designers and engineers will trust and respect, and that is a mighty short list.Renault has history with him. He is known quantity. I too think they should have looked at some of the younger drivers, but I think they got caught short by Riccardo jumping to McLaren and scrambled to find someone for 2021. Last year it was a huge feather in their cap to sign Riccardo and he was supposed to be their anchor for a few years to try and break out of midpack. I do not know how long they signed Alonso for, but it is likely more than 1 year.
It is interesting in F1. Drivers shift teams at a fairly rapid pace. I like Sainz, but it is going to be tough rooting for him driving for Scuderia next year. I am sure I will be able too, especially with the paring with Leclerc. I think that will be a potent young team.It's interesting the way drivers shift teams. I find people either love a Team or Love a driver, and seem to ignore the changes as just a shuffling of the deck.
I think you are correct about Renault, especially the part about trusting input by Alonso in building a car for 2021/2022. Not sure if Seb will land another team. Perhaps, as he is only 33 yo iirc, but it may be time for him to move on. Take a note from Alonso and go race some LeMan's/ do other things and then return.Renault corporate dumped a lot of money into the F1 team with promises that would that investment would push them up the grid, and that so far that hasn't been the case. I have heard talk that the team should put the money into the car, and not pay so much money out to Alonso. Truth is they did put a lot of money into the car, and Danny Ric was supposed to be the guy who would drive the car farther up the grid, and that just didn't happen.
While I think Danny Ric is a great driver, I think his driving style gave Renault fits. I also don't think he has the time with the team or chemistry that would cause the design and engineering staff to trust his input, at least to the degree I think they will give to Alonso.
I think Seb's spirit was broken long ago. Maybe he could heal at another team, but you all know he doesn't like the turbo hybrid cars, nor is he a huge fan of the often uneven decisions from the race stewards. I personally think that leaving F1 is the best thing that Seb can do for Seb.
They received Mercedes’ engine and gearbox technology from last year. Supposedly they ripped off their aero package from last year too....hence Renault’s protest they filed yesterday.What caught me by surprise this year is Racing Point. Where the hell did they come from to become so competitive in the mid pack?
My guess is that Merc gave them blueprints. Not like that would happen in F1. Eh hmmm McClaren, Ferrari and Renault Spy gate 2007.What caught me by surprise this year is Racing Point. Where the hell did they come from to become so competitive in the mid pack?
Until Max got to Redbull I could hardly watch. Now it’s frustrating because I think Max is faster than Louis. If Max were in Merc I think he would consistently beat LH. If Valtteri can get close Max would destroy. I think all Max does is simulator in free time. He’s a Junkie. Lol.I used to be a big fan, I even worked a few races in Europe. Merc's dominance the last few years has had me following it less, and Lewis's nonsense even more.
Im on the fence.My guess is that Merc gave them blueprints. Not like that would happen in F1. Eh hmmm McClaren, Ferrari and Renault Spy gate 2007.
F1 should get somebody just retired to test both RP and 2019 Merc. See how close. Bet it’s within 0.2 sec. or maybe a lemans driver since that’s closest to F1 performance. Guarantee they are cheating. Sr wants Jr to look good. The real ? Is will Vettel go there?
That is one of the things I love about off road racing. The Unlimited classes are still Unlimited for the most part. Any engine, any shock, any tire (up to 42")Remember when the teams chose the tire brands, could run whatever compounds. They could determine their fuel loads and consume as much as they wanted. Ferrari had 4 cyl turbos, Jag had normally aspirated V12's, Williams had Cosworth V8's. I even remember the Tyrrell P34. I miss the creativeness and differences that made F1 really exciting. I understand that all that is expensive and some teams cannot afford to compete at that level, that is why there are other classes.
Arrrggggggggggggg Dustbun...PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't remind me of having the choice, generally, between Pirelli, Michelin, Dunlop, and Goodyear and any compound they wanted and a reasonable amount of tyres (there is no tire in F1 . Granted, tyre strategy is a big part of F-1 now; and I guess it's more of a team sport.I have been following F1 since 75, back when ABC Wide World of Sports would televise Monoco. We only had 4 channels back then. First F1 race I attended was the 1981 USGP at Ceasar's Palace and I was hooked.
I have tired of the sport because FIA has been slowly making it into another IROC so that other teams can afford to get into it. Remember when the teams chose the tire brands, could run whatever compounds. They could determine their fuel loads and consume as much as they wanted. Ferrari had 4 cyl turbos, Jag had normally aspirated V12's, Williams had Cosworth V8's. I even remember the Tyrrell P34. I miss the creativeness and differences that made F1 really exciting. I understand that all that is expensive and some teams cannot afford to compete at that level, that is why there are other classes.
I have seen the FIA lower the standards and not raise the bar. This sport used to be about performance, precision and skill yet drivers now can have all 4 tires off the track lap after lap and nothing is done. The drivers sure do stay in track limits at Monoco. I guarantee they would do better if the edges of the track went back to grass or gravel.
These things have been bothering me over the years but I overlooked it for the love of the sport and watched every practice, qualifying and race and attended races when I could. However after 45 years I am done and the final straw was Lewis Hamilton and his arrogant BLM statements. Where he makes statements like:
"I would have thought by now you would see why this happens and say something about it but you can’t stand alongside us. Just know I know who you... are and I see you." "...I know who you are and I see you."??? WTF, he is the thought police?
Or there is this article where he calls out Ferrari and others for not reacting properly. Lewis Hamilton demands F1 do more to promote diversity and BLM message after drivers refuse to take knee again.
@BytorJr made a great point that I absolutely agree with. " If nobody knew who Hamilton was, they'd never know he was black while he was driving the car. His talent does the talking, as it should." I have always liked the multiculturalism of F1. There have been drivers from Japan, India, Russia, etc. I don't care.
I will not be told how I am suppose to react, think or feel about anything and I will not support it when others are being told how to react, think or feel. He stepped way over the line. A six time world champion with a net worth of $285 M. Yeah, there's a lot of racism going on. It's convenient he forgot his other half which would make him just as guilty based on color alone.
Will F1 miss me? Nope, and it should not. But this is my own little protest and it will just give me more time to shoot.
I haven't followed that, I will look into it though since I am shopping for a new sport. I did follow the World Endurance Championship some.That is one of the things I love about off road racing. The Unlimited classes are still Unlimited for the most part. Any engine, any shock, any tire (up to 42")
Outstanding, I agree with everything you have said. It really is unfortunate that it has entered this sport.Arrrggggggggggggg Dustbun...PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't remind me of having the choice, generally, between Pirelli, Michelin, Dunlop, and Goodyear and any compound they wanted and a reasonable amount of tyres (there is no tire in F1 . Granted, tyre strategy is a big part of F-1 now; and I guess it's more of a team sport.
I don't want to see drivers die; but I think Max and Seb have it right...LET US RACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They understand it....a true racer is not going to be worried about anything but winning. LH wines like a teenage girl without her cell phone. I'm really hoping somebody or some team steps up to the plate and shuts Hamilton the F up. He's not been discriminated against, but I bet there is some reverse discrimination going on. I sure hope Max Verstappen, Antonio Giovinazzi, Daniil Kvyat, Carlos Sainz, Charles Leclerc and Kimi Raikkonen keep standing (figuratively and literally) for THEIR rights not to bow to King Louis I. If I could get their private emails I'd send them a support letter.
NOBODY is defending racism Mr. Hamilton. But the BLM is a political organization based heavily on Marxism. I remember two obvious incidences in my career standing up for a guy who was Muslim (More like Muslim-light...the Episcopal side (LOL)...really cool guy actually) and a black guy at work. I voiced my complaint to HR in both cases - especially regarding the black guy, were not giving him a promotion due to his color - his work was excellent and he was completely into learning new stuff. Model employee, but was stuck at his labor grade for 5 years (and early in his career too). Literally would give shirt off back - one of nicest people I've ever worked with bar none. I have no doubt the Korean boss just didn't like him due to his color. Of course, I paid a heavy price for that and I'd do it again in a heartbeat. Right is right, wrong is wrong. Here's my philosophy...come to work, contribute as a TEAM member, get paid and I don't give a shit your color, religions, sex parts, etc. Capitalism = diversity!!!
I'll ad this quote from The Sun article:
"But no other team has said a single thing. Whilst we have seen the Red Bull mechanics take a knee, which I think is great, but publicly, as businesses and teams…
Exactly Louis...which shows taking a knee is ABSOLUTE LIP SERVICE. Want to change, make a freaking business case, bring in talent. Start an organization and fund it to make STEM fun for ALL kids, not just black, but if you want to focus on black children I have ZERO issue with that. To quote Def Leppard: Action...Action...Action not words.