While not nearly as refined as LongRifles, here is mine.
Is this an spr a1? Consider it a good buy?
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Is this an spr a1? Consider it a good buy?
One way I found to reduce the cost of the build is to either bed yourself, which is not ideal or go with a chassis system. I would love to put it in a manners with a mini- chassis, cos I love the feel of their stock. Or go with a full chassis like mccree( short action only) or the pdc chassis...( not a fan of the open stock frame design) now if only some one with cnc and cad would design a system which could take a winchester action and bolt on a conventional looking set of skins..like the viper skins.
Did find this company though, I wonder if they work with other peoples stock or if manners will inlet for their chassis.
Custom Replacement Gunstocks, Rifle Stocks - Quality, Accuracy, Aluminum Chassis - Accurate Innovations
Give me a Win-70/FN over the thoroughly unimpressive Remington 700 or any of the clones any day! I have 3 of them and love them. When I was in the market for a true high grade precision rifle that was better than my CRF actions, there was only one that even came close and that was an AI. Absolutely love my AX but it is a bit too much weight to carry for hunting.
Not quite. Its a factory Winchester stealth, the differences are a 26" non chromed lined barrel with a freebore that is about .1 shorter than the 308 SPR I had, it doesn't have 8/40 screws for the scope base and last, it has a MOA trigger from the factory. All that said, it has about a 75fps advantage to my old SPR and while may SPR shot good groups this thing shoots like it wears a custom barrel... super tight. I was going to have it cut back until I started shooting it and saw it shot to good to mess with. I sold my SPR shortly after buying this and upgraded the stock to a SPR take off, bedded it in devcan and swapped a spring in the trigger for a nice 3 pound pull. Also added PT&G's AI AE DBM system that required no action work to install.
A few pics of rifles in here.. but no shot groups with them.. Here's my home brew.
http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...2-lipstick-pig-****range-pics-up-9-8****.html
http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...2-lipstick-pig-****range-pics-up-9-8****.html
That being said, would you have stuck with your spr had you not had the stealth? I'm trying to decide on a good factory .308.
In my opinion, its pretty hard to beat a Rem700 SPS Tactical in 308. Its only about 650$ and will shoot half MOA. Dont get me wrong, the Winchester is a much better rifle, but the difference in price is alot.
Yes, but I was not a fan of the DBM mine had before they switched to TDM or what ever the new models have. The 4 round capacity and the fact that the front spot welded snail spring keep breaking, making the mag useless pissed me off enough to buy the take off stock and hinged floor plate and convert it. FWIW, I have not heard any complaints regarding the new mag system... If the FN SPR A3G didn't have that adjustable saddle cheek piece and had something without McMillan's ugly (my opinion) tension knobs that seem to work loose on the stocks I have had and had something like a KMW's adjustable system I would buy one in a heart beat.
True... But once you put a Manners mini chassis stock or a standard stock, bed it, add a dbm on it and upgrade the trigger with a new spring or replace it your 595.00 (price around here) SPS tactical is 1300 on the cheap end and 1700 on the tricked out version (if you do your own work).
I agree. But the factory Rem will shoot half MOA. The goodies you listed are icing on the cake. I dropped my SPS in an AICS only because I love the stock, not because it needed a new stock. But who leaves rifles in their factory condition right? lmao.. Friends dont let friends shoot stock.
Thanks a lot. I'm seriously thinking about grabbing one of those bedded SPR A1s from tacord off here. Just might go with the blind box and add the ptg later for mag compatibility. There is no excuse for me to not have a .308 in my safe.
Any reason you never see builds on Winchester Actions?
I had one and the mcmillan crf action wasn't very reliable as far as extracting was concerned. It really wasn't reliable at all
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I had one and the mcmillan crf action wasn't very reliable as far as extracting was concerned. It really wasn't reliable at all
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I like that!
FWIW, the Winchester Stealth I have I picked up for right around 700 at a South Dakota Cabelas and I dont recall Buds (gunbroker seller and warehouse) being much more a few months ago... and I would not put my user customized Remington Tactical seen here http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...846-308-remington-tactical-work-progress.html in the same class as my Stealth, its just a better rifle in all respects.
I wish the action was a little lighter, but I'm a fan. I've had at least a dozen over the years. Still have quite a few and a couple SPR actions waiting to become something. Wish I'd bought a few more when CDNN was selling them.
Not wanting to sell one to a fellow crf fan who was late to the cdnn party?
Or two...
I started out a Remington 700 fan. I have had and built 7 PSS rifles. I thought they were just the best thing ever. That is till I put my hands on my first Winchester M70. Now I have two FN SPR's An A1 and a A2, and a winchester extreme weather M70 in 308. I will never go back to a rem 700. I would not take 20 of them for one of my SPRs. They are that much better. At least to me. There are many things that make the winchester a better action. But the two big ones for me are, safety in the bolt. You are blocking the firing pin, not just the trigger. Bar none the best safest possible set up. And second you have a real extractor. Not some sad little excuse for a fingernail of spring steel. A winchester grips darn near a third of the rim of the case with a huge mauser style extractor. The remington grips next to nothing. And I have to add a third thing to the list. The winchesters bolt handle and bolt are one piece of the same strong steel. The remington has some sad excuse of cast $%& brazed to the bolt body. Looks like something off a cap gun. So sad. But you get what you pay for.
New here and love it. I am a Winchester fan. Many years ago I went to my local gun shop and asked the owner if he had a Remington 700 Mountain Rifle in 270. He said he did not. We talked a while about whatever and he asked why I wanted a Remington. I said I didn't really know, I saw one in a magazine and liked the looks of it. He walked to the wall and took a new Winchester Feather Wt in 270 down and handed it to me. He said take that and shoot it and if you don't like it I will order you a Remington. I still remember his smile when he said if you want a shotgun buy a Remington but if you want a rifle buy a Winchester, It's a Rifleman's rifle. Well I laughed, took the Winchester (try that today with no paperwork) and left. I shot it, fell in love and went back and paid for it. I still have that one, and a few more.
What's really sad is that with Remingtons you often get LESS than what you paid for.
I've had two Winchesters (.223 Stealth and a .260 Rem custom HP match rifle built on a pre 64 action), two Howas (1500 Lightning in 30-06 and 1500 HB in .308), and a CZ550 in 6.5x55 and have always got what I paid for or more with each one of them.
There are too many high quality factory rifles (Winchester, Howa, CZ to name three) to bother with Remingtons.
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Some day really soon my Black Hole Weaponry barrel will arrive and I can finish my M70 build. It'll wear a 24" full bull pipe chambered for 7RM on my Winchester push-feed action. I think people go the easy way when they go Remington or Savage. When you pick a Winchester rifle you're starting with (nowadays) a much more expensive rifle or an older rifle that's likely set up for hunting. There's a small-ish aftermarket for fiddling with Winchester rifles but a huge one for Remington. Those of us that modify/rebuild Winchesters are electing to participate in an astonishingly expensive form of fan-boy-ism if we're using a modern FN built m70 and a slightly less expensive form of sentimentality if we elect to use an older Winchester action. Simply, there are cheaper ways of accomplishing the same thing... Remington and Savage actions.
For my part, I wouldn't do a Winchester build with CRF. My Winchester is push feed so it wasn't such a big deal to do a build on it. CRF adds needlessly (for my purposes) to the cost so that cuts out about half of m70's that are out there. The push-feed m70's are not substantively very different from a m700 so I think a lot of folks just decide to go the cheaper route and Remington their build. I personally like the 70's safety better and the integral recoil lug makes for one less thing I have to purchase a replacement for.
For my part, I wouldn't do a Winchester build with CRF. My Winchester is push feed so it wasn't such a big deal to do a build on it. CRF adds needlessly (for my purposes) to the cost so that cuts out about half of m70's that are out there. The push-feed m70's are not substantively very different from a m700 so I think a lot of folks just decide to go the cheaper route and Remington their build. I personally like the 70's safety better and the integral recoil lug makes for one less thing I have to purchase a replacement for.
Chicken and egg problem. The military went with the Remington 700 over the Winchester 70 in the 1960s because then, like now, they were cheaper.
I wasn't late to the CDNN party but I did make the terrible mistake of not buying a bunch of them and putting them in the safe.
I have an old sears Ted williams rifle in 270 (it's a post 64 m70) that I want to have built, it's a hand me down from my grandfather, I want to have it built in 300wm, looks like I know places to send it to now. But which stock should I get? I originally wanted a manners T4A side folding but if they don't do a mini chassis like I wanted then I don't know who to go with.
I have 3 custom builds on model 70 actions. I really like them better than the Remington but my gap 308 shoots great.
25-06 ackley on a post 64 super grade Mauser action
243 ackley on a post 64 Mauser action
30-338 on a pre 64 action.
25-06 ackley on a post 64 super grade Mauser action
243 ackley on a post 64 Mauser action
30-338 on a pre 64 action.
