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Anyone want to share any 338 LM load data?

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hula</div><div class="ubbcode-body">AIAW 338

Federal 215M
Scenar 250 HPBT
New Lapua brass
OAL 3.61
Rangemaster 750 digital scale
80 degrees Fahrenheit
RL-25

Grains FPS
85.0 2645
86.0 2699
87.0 2715
88.0 2743
89.0 2772
90.0 2824
91.0 2849
92.0 2873
92.5 2923 No signs of overpressuring.

Emailed Alliant urging the need for data and this projectile. </div></div>
 
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Bronco and I are using the 250 Sierra's MK right now with 95gr of H1000 and gettin just shy of 3000fps. No pressure signs and holding good out to 1400. The 338 is new to both of us, and we haven't loaded any of the 300's yet. Lapua brass
 
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Armalite AR30
26” barrel

250 gr. Sierra Match King
87.5 gr. Reloader 22
Lapua brass
CCI Mag. Rifle primer
3.740 C.O.A.L.
0.002 neck tension
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pimpgun</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That VVn560 looks like it really works in the Lap-mag...clip...was interested until I saw the $34.95 price tag on the one lb. can. I believe I can keep struggling along with Retumbo. I realize the 338LM is never going to be cheap to shoot, but I don't see enough velocity improvement with the N560 to justify the added cost. </div></div>

tad slower N570 gives even more oomph to boolet...same price
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PA 338LM
1-9.4 Twist
23" Krieger barrel

91.5gr H1000
3.750 OAL
300gr SMK's
2707 almost every shot. Very consistent vel.
1/4 moa at 400yard. Havent had a chance to shoot any further yet.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fredo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">*Vihtavuori 2009 reloading guide Max load for the below powder (N560) and projectiles 16.2 g / 250 gr Secnar is 82 grains 2,841 FPS*


Federal 215M primer, New Lapua Brass, VV N560, 16.2g /250gr Secnar, 3.75 OAL

88 grains = 2,927 FPS Average. 34 FPS Deviation

90 grains = 3,026 FPS " 16 FPS Deviation

92 grains = 3,088 FPS " 12 FPS Deviation

93 grains = 3,140 FPS " 14 FPS Deviation

94 grains = 3,178 FPS " *3 FPS Deviation*

95 grains = 3,216 FPS " 40 FPS Deviation

Elev 347'
Temp 70
Baro 29.93

Primers from loads: from left to right: 95,94,93,92,90,88 grains
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Re: Anyone want to share any 338 LM load data?

.338 Lapua Imp (Ackley)
34in 1 in 10 twist

Fed 215M primer
95gr H 1000
300gr Berger
.0041 off lands

2850 fps.
7fps dev.

2in groups at 700yds

Guther
 
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Tagged. Even though it looks like this thread is dead.
 
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My loads for 338LM TRG-42

1. Bullet Lapua Lock Base 408 250gr,powder 95.8-96.1gr depending on brass lot, primer Fed 215, COL: 3.6063" inches. Velocity from a new barrel: 2972fps at 68farenheit, from a barrel that has 200-600rds behind velocity: 3000-3034fps,at 1000-1500rds the barrel is somewhat used up but accurate velocity between 2870-2903fps at 68farenheit, 1500-2000rds around 2788-2837fps.

I used 44pounds of N570 and two barrels before getting fully convinced of this load/powder. --->Performance comes with a price.

2.Bullet Lapua Lock Base 408 250gr,powder H1000 94gr,Brass Full length sized Lapua, primer Fed 215, COL: 3.6063" inches. Velocity at 68farenheit 2969-2985 fps----> Relatively HOT load.

3.Bullet Lapua Lock Base 408 250gr,powder NORMA MRP-2 94gr, Brass Full length sized Lapua primer Fed 215, COL: 3.6063" inches. Velocity at 8farenheit= 2867fps Velocity at 35.6farenheit =2982fps

Unfortunately the production of Norma MRP-2 has ended and will be replaced with Norma 217 which is not the same powder.

4. Bullet Lapua Lock Base 408 250gr,powder Vihtavuori N165 86.5gr,Brass Full length sized Lapua primer Fed 215, COL: 3.6063" inches. Velocity at 68farenheit= 2837fps. Relatively HOT load but accurate.

All these loads work up to 1312yards/1200m, but none are as good as Lapua factory AMMO, which I use in competition(loaded with same b408).The factory AMMO is very stable up to 1531yards/1400m Next powder to try will be Vihtavuori N560 and possibly H4831SC.

 
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Vihta N560 93,5 grains at -5C Degrees
gives approx 930 m/s velocity and abt 0.5 MOA
 
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Hunting Load:

Lapua Brass, 300 gr SMK, Fed 215M, 91 gr H1000, forget the COAl right now, but 0.020" jump. ~ 2803 fps. single digit ES and SD.

'Varmint' Load:

Lapua Brass, 200 gr Hornady SP, Fed 215M, 100.5 gr RE-22, Jumped 0.025". ~ 3450 fps. ~ 23 ES and 11 SD.
 
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Today I've shooted first time a Lapua Scenar 300 gr with my AWSM....... AOL to fit mag, about 92 mm N 165 84 gr......prone with bipod MK II Roedale and glove for rear support.... only 100 meters.. but is only 1 hole......
AWSM in 1:11 twist.....
not yet crono the load


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Beautiful! The only bad thing I've ever read about N165 is flash.
 
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Rifle: TRG-42 1:10

250 gr. Scenar
Fed. 215M
H4831SC - 90 Gr.
Lapua Brass
3.620"

Gets to 2996 fps (last time I chrono'd)
 
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What velicity are you getting with your load in your Blaser. I have one as well and my OAL is 3.60 and i use Retumbo 96 grains with 2970 velocity 250 Scenars An Australian Instructor suggested to go to 3.582 OAL for the Blasers 338 LM


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For anyone interested, I just picked up 5 pounds of VV N570 at MidSouth Shooters Supply. Been trying all over the country to get more of it for almost a year, before I run out of what I have. Excellent propellant. I'm using 91 gr with 300 SMKs and/or 300 Scenars. Somewhere around 2700+ fps. 0.018" jump. Getting around 1/2 MOA out to 1000 yds. Savage 110BA.

Chip
 
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WORKING UP N570 JUST GOT MY FIRST BATCH FROM LAPUA OY via Grafs...
 
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Surgeon build with 30" schneider 9 twist PG
91.5 gr of H1000 at 3.71" oal with 300 Berger gen 1
shoots at 2804 damn near every shot. Shoots in the .1 and .2's at 100 yards. Held good out to 2000 yards. Shot a 4" group at 1000 with 5 shots
 
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Sako TRG42 1:12 twist
Lapua Brass
Fed 210M
250 scenars
87gr H4831SC
2860FPS
 
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Hopefully this thread will come back to life...
 
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After somewhat extensive load development, a stand out load for my AX-338:

Lapua Brass
Fed 215M primer
Sierra 300gr Matchking
92.0gr Retumbo
3.710" OAL
2845 fps velocity avg. verified by trajectory/drops out to 1500yds.

6500' ASL, 70 deg F.

In my chamber, 3.710" is about a .025" jump to the lands. My AX loves this load. The charge is a few grains lower than what I normally use by about 2-3gr but at 94.0 I was seeing noticeable pressure signs. The final load of 92.0gr shows just a slight ejector mark, which is acceptable for me.
 
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TRG-42, 1:10
Lapua Brass
Berger 300 Hybrids
Fed 215M
OAL 3.712
Nodes at 92.0 and 92.3
H-1000
92.0 running 2860 +/- 7
Will be working out the 92.3 this weekend

Have yet to see over .7 MOA with this rifle with any load

I'm trying hard to like these Bergers, but this rifle LOVED 300 SMK's
 
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I just ordered 6-pounds of VV N560. Will start off with once fired Lapua , 300-gr Scenars, and FGMM 215M primers.

This will be for a Sako TRG-42/10

Anyone using this combo?
 
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I would have used N570 for your 300gr Scenars... my testing suggested that N570 gave higher MVs than did 560 with no stress visible on the brass. I get 2730fps with 300 gr Scenars and 92.0 of N570, with 215M.
 
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Savage 110
Lapua brass
Federal 215
H1000 85.5 gr
Hornady 285gr
COAL 3.642"

These made a ragged hole at 200yds. I plan to test longer range soon.
 
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Savage 110BA
H-1000 92.0g
Federal 215 LRM
300g Sierra Match King
3.680 COAL
Mild crimp w/ Lee Factory Crimp die
I must use Lapua headstamped brass, Hornady or others produce bolt lift issues past the 88.5/89g charge; no overpressure w/ Lapua brass; have loaded brass 3 times so far w/ no reuse issues

Chrono 2,766fps/5,096ft/lbs

1/8" to 3/16" extreme spread for a 5 shot group at 100yards from bipod. Havent had a chance to test them farther yet.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alpine 338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just ordered 6-pounds of VV N560. Will start off with once fired Lapua , 300-gr Scenars, and FGMM 215M primers.

This will be for a Sako TRG-42/10

Anyone using this combo? </div></div>

I own a TRG 42, rebarreled with Border 1/10 twist.

Normally I use 82.5 gr or 85.5 gr under a 300 gr Lapua Scenar; the velocity with 85.5 gr at 30° is 850 m/s ( 2788 fps)
It's a very stable load with very good results at 1380 m
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mudvayne</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Surgeon build with 30" schneider 9 twist PG
91.5 gr of H1000 at 3.71" oal with 300 Berger gen 1
shoots at 2804 damn near every shot. Shoots in the .1 and .2's at 100 yards. Held good out to 2000 yards. Shot a 4" group at 1000 with 5 shots</div></div>

Mudvayne, what primer and what brass? I hate to assume...

BTW I'm trying to get a compilation of the loads mentioned here. I'll put up a copy if anybody's interested.
 
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- Lapua brass, neck resize only. I found full body sizing ruins the brass by stressing the lower part of the case, at least with my body die. Case trim for length, every 2-3 reloads. I have used Hornady brass as well and find it perfectly acceptable.
- Fed 215M
- VV N570, 92.0 grains. Based on ladder testing. Also you can fill the case with N570, pack it in with the 300 Scenar, and you will not damage the brass. That's how slow this powder burns. I determined that after 98.0 grains, MVs don't speed up as unburned powder simply goes out the barrel.
- 300 grain Scenar. I experimented with 250 vs 300 Scenar, and determined that 300 Scenar is the way to go, mainly due to windage which is our biggest environmental factor in california.
- MV of 2730 with a Steyr SSG08, 27.1" barrel. My ES is in low teens. I trickle charge on the RCBS 1500 so that they always read 92.0.
 
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I will measure it, but I adjusted the COAL so that the round would fit in my mag and load reliably. I found earlier that the seating to the lands approach was less accurate in my rifle. And seating the rounds deeper did better both in my Steyr 338LM and Rem 700 308, in that MV ES tightened up noticeably.
 
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Good info!
What was your MV with that N570-98gr/300gr Scenar load?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cali_tz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">- Lapua brass, neck resize only. I found full body sizing ruins the brass by stressing the lower part of the case, at least with my body die. Case trim for length, every 2-3 reloads. I have used Hornady brass as well and find it perfectly acceptable.
- Fed 215M
- VV N570, 92.0 grains. Based on ladder testing. Also you can fill the case with N570, pack it in with the 300 Scenar, and you will not damage the brass. That's how slow this powder burns. I determined that after 98.0 grains, MVs don't speed up as unburned powder simply goes out the barrel.
- 300 grain Scenar. I experimented with 250 vs 300 Scenar, and determined that 300 Scenar is the way to go, mainly due to windage which is our biggest environmental factor in california.
- MV of 2730 with a Steyr SSG08, 27.1" barrel. My ES is in low teens. I trickle charge on the RCBS 1500 so that they always read 92.0. </div></div>
 
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JL I will check my records, but my chron read the same speeds for a 98.8 (max recommended load) and a 98.0 grain N570 load... I had a hard time explaining the phenomenon until I sat down to think what could be happening. I shot enough rounds to verify that 98.8 was no faster than 98.0, so it had to be that the addtl 0.8 grains were not being burned so as to cause more velocity.

My accuracy at 1 mile seemed not to be compromised by the 2730fps that the 92.0 grains gives me. Yes I use more elevation, but the 300 grain Scenar spanks the steel all the same. Not every time, mind you.
 
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Great information.

Now to get the components here, and start shooting the new toy.
 
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Where's the 1/10 loads?
 
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82 grns of n-165
lapua brass
cci larger rifle mag primers
250 gr lapua scenars
i jammed these slightly into the lands, but they still fit into the mag. i shot 3 3shot groups with this load 2 days ago and got half inch groups.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Zink</div><div class="ubbcode-body">82 grns of n-165
lapua brass
cci larger rifle mag primers
250 gr lapua scenars
i jammed these slightly into the lands, but they still fit into the mag. i shot 3 3shot groups with this load 2 days ago and got half inch groups. </div></div>

What velocity do you get?
Thanks
 
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300gr Berger
90.1gr H1000
Lapua brass
Federal GMM 215 Primers

2710 average fps in 28" barrel
 
second the 1/10 rem pss loads, ive got 250 scenars but having trouble finding anything else in stock