Anyone work in marketing or business operations

[aslrookie]

I have a B.S. in business admin, and I am looking to make a career change from LE and into the business world involved with marketing or some level of operations. I graduated a little over 2 years ago, so I am a relatively fresh graduate, but a lot of work and life experience collectively.

I am looking for information on key skill sets and avenues of approach for making this transition. I am not expecting a managerial position right out of the gate, so I am expecting there to be an entry level avenue of approach.

Ideally, it would be something in the firearms industry, but those jobs are few and far between. There are a handful of firearms companies in Washington state, but none of them have entry level business oriented positions right now. Feel free to send me a PM if you'd rather communicate that way.

 

[diverdon]

How long have you been in LE, and how much do you hate it? The thing is LE jobs tend to allow you to retire fairly young with a decent pension. If you are half way to your pension you should run some spread sheets on projected lifetime income with two different scenarios.

1) Continue your LE to earliest offered pension then take pension and find the job you want.
2) Find the job you want, walk away from LE.

You need to get those numbers in your head in order to make a rational decision.

 

[brianf]

BS in business admin in a small company is non existent, thats what the owner thinks he does
its very hard to walk up to door and say "i wont produce anything, but at the end youll make more money", if that position is not already staffed at the facility

in a large company youll get hired from a staffing agency on/off line

as for the operations side of things employees should come with:

six sigma cert (dont expect a small shop or a employer to even know what it is so they wont send you, yet they have no atmosphere of team which is why they are a shit show looking for a new operations guy)

be willing to walk the shop floor

become a excell wiz

throw in some Smartsheet (like excell with more functionality)

Have a little spanish/working spanish "when with this finish today..tonight"

a lot of the newer ERP MRP manufacturing solutions are becoming more Excell friendly since the last 2-3 excell updates

previous they wanted you to stay inside the box in their architecture but with excell giving more "if" statements etc, planners are pulling
data out of the box to manipulate like a sand box
then make changes in the actual production software

as diverdon said, your making serious choices in your life now things never work out as expected
your new company gets sold
new COO has a old crew he wants to bring in
owner runs the company into the ground because he doesnt want to listen

if your willing to go from ground up (non managerial to start) a quick way in is quality control.
QA/QC is usually pillaged for "go getters" and people with open eyes to fill a gap somewhere else

Ahhhh work sucks ...

 

[THEIS]

Hi,

From my recollection (Which could be off)..you have not worked LE for very long right?
You were recently (Few months ago) laid off from your department right?

IF I am recalling correct..then I would say NOW is the best time for you to make switch from LE to Business job.

Question(s):
1. Why did you go LE to begin with since having a BS in Business Admin?
2. Has any other department showed interest in you joining their department since your layoff?
3. In what capacity are you looking in regards to firearms industry?

Suggestions:
1. Take the BS in Business Administration you have now and advance that with nothing but International Joint Venture/Offset programs. (Contact USA Chamber of Commerce for assistance).
2. Write a Business Administration Policy and Procedure Manual for an Imaginary Company you own and are setting up. Then use that PPM as "showcase" of your thought process and procedures for smaller companies that do not even know how they could benefit from such. Then you basically sell the PPM for their implementation.
3. Outsource your Business Administrative degree and PPM as your own consulting/marketing company.

Sincerely,
Theis

 

[brianf]

thats some path you took:

staying away from your qualifactions which are non of my business;

the only part that worries me if you are looking for a operations/upper management type position is:

"I am not saying what you did was wrong, you just did it your way, I told you how to pass the test but you did it your way"

when you have a upper middle management position the company will have set SOP/procedures that have been honed over time.
you will see fault in them but not knowing the whole process yet you will "think they are a waste"

initially you have to get on board and row in the same direction, if you fight the tide and dont take advice of the veteran office staff youll have a hard time and no one will buy in

i have seen it several times, and caused me to let people go who were qualified for the position

how do you eat a elephant... one bit at a time

 

[aslrookie]

thats some path you took:

staying away from your qualifactions which are non of my business;

the only part that worries me if you are looking for a operations/upper management type position is:

"I am not saying what you did was wrong, you just did it your way, I told you how to pass the test but you did it your way"

when you have a upper middle management position the company will have set SOP/procedures that have been honed over time.
you will see fault in them but not knowing the whole process yet you will "think they are a waste"

initially you have to get on board and row in the same direction, if you fight the tide and dont take advice of the veteran office staff youll have a hard time and no one will buy in

i have seen it several times, and caused me to let people go who were qualified for the position

how do you eat a elephant... one bit at a time

Yeah, I totally understand. Him and I sat down and had a conversation the day I got let go. He told me that I have to acknowledge it and work on it. He wanted to see me succeed. Naturally, I was defensive because my job and everything I worked for was on the line. It's taken me some time to soak it all in and understand it.

 

[brianf]

good for you, it takes a man to admit his issues and try to improve

something i dont have a handle on yet...lol

but they again im never wrong

 

[davsco]

sounds like your college is back where you used to live, but contact them and any professors and see what suggestions they have for careers/job titles that match up with your classes and degree. they might even have a list of companies their graduates have been hired by and some might have operations in your new location.

contact some consulting companies and see if your background matches any clients/projects they might have.