Are Mechanical powder measures fading in popularity?

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Shooting over a chrono and looking for "flat spots" does not find nodes. This entire chronograph ladder method was based upon a misunderstanding. Now people are using it to claim OCW is bunk, while they look for random over lapping SD and pretend it is load development. Priceless.
The Satterlee method only works if your SD is at or near zero. Otherwise, as you said, you are typically looking at "random overlapping SDs". I have never heard this mentioned. I've never brought it up, because I don't need the internet mall ninjas to rip me a new A-hole.
 
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    So how do you find nodes?

    Seat .030-.050 off the lands and load 1.5-2gr under max book.

    Unless it's varget... then load up to book max. Most everything else, though, I've found a stronger correlation to 40-55ksi loads shooting well than the existence of "nodes" every so often up the powder ladder.
     

    supercorndogs

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    Someone told me once they though a lot of the books went up to the last good load before they reached pressure. What you say makes perfect sense. The harder you ring a fork......
     

    Sgtsideways

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    I think there will be a place for them. For me, it will be for pistol loads and the Dillon 550 press. I was using the Redding for throwing powder charge along with an old beam scale, that was until I made a mistake and had to redo a lot of cf rounds. As you get older, it's a lot easier to foul up. That mistake could have caused serious problems and fortunately, those rounds didn't make it to the range.
    I realized that it was time to have a better way to see what I was doing and to get rid of the beam scale. Autotrickler v3 has proven to be that better way. I'm not taking the chance of overcharging a round(s) by mistakenly placing a beam weight in the wrong notch. I can clearly see the amount of powder and it is a whole lot quicker. I no longer have to crouch down to see the beam scale and the powder charges are a lot more accurate. You sit, you charge, you move on to the next stage. One of the best investments that you can make.
     

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    Not for me. My Harrells powder throw works great with ball powers for times when I just want to go shooting. It’s 20 years old and still dead on. When I’m just plinking steel at close to mid range range with my 308 or 300 BLK it makes no difference.
     
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    my Redding 3BR is ridiculously consistent, no need to find solutions for non-existent problems IMO. I check the first half dozen and then 1 in 50 after I'm convinced I'm on
     
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    What about the zombie apocalypse when no one has electricity lol
    Don't sell your RCBS Balance Scales! Or your Dandy trickler that runs off of batteries. You ARE prepped with batteries, aren't you?

    But I'm still trying to figure out the case prep without the big E.
     

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    I use a hornady digital powder scale. I like to tare each case and then weigh powder in the cases, i feel like its more accurate. I have a mechanical scale, but its put away for the time being.
    OK, You've got my curiousity up. I like the Hornady digital, fine scale. But with the tare variation, do you compensate with charge variation, or put identical charges in? In which case, I'm lost again as to the accuracy gain. Would love to understand, ALWAYS looking for better accuracy and loads.

    Thanks!
     

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    Don't sell your RCBS Balance Scales! Or your Dandy trickler that runs off of batteries. You ARE prepped with batteries, aren't you?

    But I'm still trying to figure out the case prep without the big E.
     
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    OK, You've got my curiousity up. I like the Hornady digital, fine scale. But with the tare variation, do you compensate with charge variation, or put identical charges in? In which case, I'm lost again as to the accuracy gain. Would love to understand, ALWAYS looking for better accuracy and loads.

    Thanks!
    I use an rcbs powder thrower, direct to bullet neck. I find it easier to weight the case, tare it, charge the case and reweigh it and then seat bullet when its perfect. I either tap a grain or two out or use a lee dipper to add a few grains and get each one perfect. Im just cheap really, but i like being exact with it. This is accuracy for the poors lol.
     

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    Loading my 338 with 7977 its pretty rough thru the powder thrower, as opposed to h414 in my 243 that meters amazing. This just lets me keep each round exact without going from tray to tray to funnel ect.
     

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    Thanks!
     

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