Rifle Scopes Arken SH4 Gen2 6-24x50 VPR MIL
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AFAIK they are direct sales only, is one of the factors why the reasonable price.
...as much as my "impulsive urge" to buy another SH model with the discount given me, I have to keep that "impulsive urge" under control and wait for the EP series to become available. Nothing against the SH series, just would like to experience the other series.....kinda like having both an AR15 format and AR10 format 
...what I'm also hoping to see is if both the VPR and EPR reticles will be available and if previous purchasers (of any Arken scope) will be afforded an incentive like the GoBrandon offer....
...what I'm also hoping to see is if both the VPR and EPR reticles will be available and if previous purchasers (of any Arken scope) will be afforded an incentive like the GoBrandon offer....
I had the opportunity to get behind the
4-16 ep4 and the 4-16 sh4 today.
The turrets on the ep4 are way better, much more refined and tactile, even though they are 10 mil turrets and the sh4 are 8, it still has better feel to me.
The glass surprisingly was not very different from each other, I really couldn’t tell the difference even trying to get them both to wash out in the sun.
It was me and another guy trying to pick them apart and both of us couldn’t tell the difference.
The EP4 is still a better scope overall.
I heard rumors of a Gen 2 ep4 5-25x56 in the future.
4-16 ep4 and the 4-16 sh4 today.
The turrets on the ep4 are way better, much more refined and tactile, even though they are 10 mil turrets and the sh4 are 8, it still has better feel to me.
The glass surprisingly was not very different from each other, I really couldn’t tell the difference even trying to get them both to wash out in the sun.
It was me and another guy trying to pick them apart and both of us couldn’t tell the difference.
The EP4 is still a better scope overall.
I heard rumors of a Gen 2 ep4 5-25x56 in the future.
l know what I want for Christmas...
If that's the case, then the Strike Eagle better watch out... Because for $100 less MSRP than the Strike Eagle's sale price ($599 vs $699), it's going to be some stiff competition for the Strike Eagle to overcome. The SH4 Gen2 is already nearly identical to it, I can imagine the Jap ED glass would be even better.
For $350-385, you won't regret that purchase. You'll probably order more. LOL
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The Arken HALO rings are pretty damn good for $60. I have them on my first Arken on my .260 Rem, and so far, solid as a rock.
My 2nd Arken I bought a set of Seekins Precision 34mm Low (0.92") rings, which is what I run on everything. It's my normal ring that I use, but at the time of my first Arken purchase, they were non-existent in the U.S. But so far, those Arken rings are pretty damn decent. And the machining fitment for their tube is as flawless as you can get. Mine have virtually zero ring-gap once properly torque to 18 in/lbs.
I just don’t think it’s a fair comparison. This is a very nice 350$-450$ scope. The strike eagle pulls ahead on glass, turret design and feel, and I think the ETR is better than the strike eagle.
I think a fair comparison would be,
SWFA fixed and 3-15s
Athlon Argos BTR Gen 2
Athlon halos Gen 2
Vortex venom
Vortex strike eagle
I think guys that would be in the market for a 500ish + or - 100ish dollars scope would be looking at all these scopes.
I haven’t handled the venom or the halos gen2 yet, I have several years with swfa and I have a strike eagle, I put strike eagle first and the Arken second.
I would almost bet the halos and venom would quickly take the position above swfa, just because of the lack of features on the swfa.
Im curious if this compares to the Athlon Midas Tac. I have one on my 7mm and love it, I have been contemplating getting another for my 6.5Grendel but the Arken is sounded real nice.
I think the Midas tac is better, I’d put it in the next tier of comparison if I was looking at them.
I’d start with the strike eagle and go up to the 1200$ range, the Midas fits nicely in that bracket.
I keep comparing scopes to this Arken and when I go to put them in a list, the damn 350$ price tag keeps popping up. You just can’t find a better scope feature list in that price range.
I do think that the Arken will do anything the other scopes can do. It’s set up for precision and they gave it good enough glass for any 1000 yard rig.
It’s all up to the mechanism and if it’s durable and accurate. Time will tell.
I personally believe if you have a 1000$ budget for a scope, buy a 1000$ scope, if you have 500$ then buy a 500$ scope, if all you have is 350$ then this scope is a no brainer.
It’s all up to the mechanism and if it’s durable and accurate. Time will tell.
I personally believe if you have a 1000$ budget for a scope, buy a 1000$ scope, if you have 500$ then buy a 500$ scope, if all you have is 350$ then this scope is a no brainer.
I’m sure that mount they sell is a good height. I’d see if they show how high it is and order the same height rings.
ha you're right. I should have just done that in the first place. cheers
I think the Venom is the same scope as the Strike Eagle (same glass, tube, lenses, etc...) just less features (no locking turrets, no illuminated reticle, and the EBR-2 vs. the EBR-7C reticle).
Through my eyes, the SE and the Arken SH4 Gen2 are nearly identical at all the magnification ranges. Each have their pros and cons, but Side-by-side, I'd put them at an equal playing field in both features and solid construction.
There’s a couple pics out there with them side by side (SE and Venom) and the bodies are different, I suspect the same glass, snd I’m not sure about internals since the elevation range is different.
It's not the same glass and tube. SE has a little better glass. Both have the 7C reticle.
Strike Eagle on left and Venom on right.
I've never seen them side-by-side. I always read they were the same thing, just less features... Sort of like how Vortex did the PST Gen1 vs the HS-T... Same exact scope, just less bells & whistles.
I will say this, I do love my Strike Eagle 5-25x56 EBR-7C MRAD. For the money, it's a hell of a scope. If I could snap my fingers and turn all my HS-T's into Strike Eagles, I'd do it. My HS-T's have been excellent scopes, but that zero-stop system and pain in the ass turret reset system is kind of janky... I've always felt that way about them, but at the time when I bought them (when they came out) nothing out there competed in that price range.
Yup they are an older design like the Gen I PSTs but Vortex is upgrading the line as you see.
I think you were confusing the Diamondback Tactical with the 2C to the Venom with the 7C.
I guess that means I need to sell my HS-T's while they still have some value before the HS-T Gen2 comes out... LOL
I just noticed... Is that Venom in a set of Arken HALO rings...?
I ordered their mount, not qd but fine. CS was awesome, combined my orders, gave me free ship code so not overcharged on 2nd order, and was great to email back and forth with. Outstanding transaction all around.
Yeah, I have had a extremely good experience with them ever since I bought the EP4. There was some reports of ghosting for a minute, but I never experienced that at all.
Let me just say, if you break that mount you’ll be covered. They went above and beyond to fix a set of rings for me.
I just noticed... Is that Venom in a set of Arken HALO rings...?
Needed a cheap set of 34mm rings and the Vortex Pro Series stop at 30mm. They seem to do the job well.
They're the nicest fitting and strongest $60 set of rings I've ever bought. Been impressed, myself. The set that's on my first Arken is rock-solid at 18 in/lbs. Also, the ring-gap is virtually non-existent on my set. Good engineering & good Q&A, leads to good products...Regardless of the price.
I've got a set of Vortex Precisions in 34mm that my Strike Eagle sits in. They're built by Seekins, which is what I normally run on everything, and they're solid, as well. $140 a set, but they're built like a tank.
Yup Seekins are my go to ring and have been since 2005. Never let me down.
The Arken rings are nice and I actually wish they had a hair more gap as I like the gap to set torque and see how the ring cap sits. Also I wish they didn’t go from the .92 right up to 1.26”. A 1” or 1.1” would have been better. That said for the $60 they are a good choice. I wanted a similar prices ring with scope to see what someone buying it might use and it works. The Strike Eagle has a used set of Warne Mountain Tech rings I got here used for around $70 if memory serves.
I like about 1/4" of clearance for the scope objective bell with a set of BC flip-caps, so, for me, the 0.92" rings about the perfect height with the 20 MOA rails, and still allows me to use a decent cheek-weld on a non-adjustable stock.
With 56mm objectives and caps? You must be using high 20 moa rails or thinner contour barrels as they don’t work with any of my set ups except the one with a high 20 moa rail.
I can’t remember what height my seekins are, the Arkens were way to low for the 56mm objective to run on a 20 moa accutac steel rail it’s a nice low profile rail. but worked perfectly on this Leupold mark 4 steel rail on the savage. I ended up putting the vortex SE in a little higher Seekins and put a DMR2 in the Arken rings. I don’t think the DMR2 with 50mm will even fit in the chassis rifle in the low Arken rings. 
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Nope, using Sendero/Varmint contour barrels and EGW HD 20MOA rails.
It's somewhere between 1/8-1/4" gap. Plenty enough to not interact with each other under recoil.
Nope, using Sendero/Varmint contour barrels and EGW HD 20MOA rails.
It's somewhere between 1/8-1/4" gap. Plenty enough to not interact with each other under recoil.
That's not an overly heavy barrel but heavy enough. Must be the EGW. Below is a 1" ring with an M24 barrel. I wouldn't want it any lower. That's with Badger Ordnance, Seekins and on TL3 bases.
A 34mm 1.1" is exactly what I want for my T1x and 10/22
The Vortex Precision Matched rings made by Seekins have a 1.1” height if you needed them.
What is the objective and ocular measurements on the SH-4 gen2 6x24 for a cheap set of butler creek caps.
Cant find anything on their site.
Cant find anything on their site.
I've only ever had 2-3 caps break in 25 years...
I've broken more than that in a few months of matches. Hit them on anything they snap off. Haven't used them in years and would never go back especially with the better options today.I've only ever had 2-3 caps break in 25 years...
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