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Has it a M24 trigger, with regards the buttpad, real stocks have a thin buttpad which is Remington marked, where as commercial stocks have a thicker standard pad. It seems to be missing the front sight mounting block, is it drilled and just missing.
 

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It's drilled but missing.
 

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How did the seller advertise the rifle, or did you just come upon it. The stock seems to be commerical hs with the wrong butt pad, also the action sits very high in the stock was it bedded?
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I found it at an LGS. They had bought someone's collection. It was advertised as a U.S. property marked Remington M24. I took a chance and bought it for $2500 not knowing the finer details of this rifle. I don't know if it is glass bedded as I recently purchased it and have not removed it from the stock to check. It is sounding more likely it's a clone.
 

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To be honest, still a nice rifle, just missing a few pieces to make it look very authentic. Tbh the most important thing is, how it shoots and if your happy with it.
 
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I think for what it is and what I paid I'm happy with it. I am going to the range tomorrow to see how it shoots. I might feel differently about it after shooting it but will hope for the best. I appreciate your candor about this rifle, I had my doubts after searching the web for more info on it.
 

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Is this a Remington Defense rebuild or something else, clone, CMP?
My guess is a replica with the "U.S" added. One way to tell is the marking on the left side, if is says "Model 700 M24" its Remington Defense, if its says "Model 700" its a civilian rifle made clone of sorts. Your barrel is marked "308W" but I think the M24s were generally marked "7.62" or "7.62 NATO". The 1984 scope is an early 'trial' scopes for evaluation. The adopted scope was the M3A and I think the earliest are dated 1987. That's my 2cts.
 

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My guess is a replica with the "U.S" added. One way to tell is the marking on the left side, if is says "Model 700 M24" its Remington Defense, if its says "Model 700" its a civilian rifle made clone of sorts. Your barrel is marked "308W" but I think the M24s were generally marked "7.62" or "7.62 NATO". The 1984 scope is an early 'trial' scopes for evaluation. The adopted scope was the M3A and I think the earliest are dated 1987. That's my 2cts.

My guess is a replica with the "U.S" added. One way to tell is the marking on the left side, if is says "Model 700 M24" its Remington Defense, if its says "Model 700" its a civilian rifle made clone of sorts. Your barrel is marked "308W" but I think the M24s were generally marked "7.62" or "7.62 NATO". The 1984 scope is an early 'trial' scopes for evaluation. The adopted scope was the M3A and I think the earliest are dated 1987. That's my 2cts.
 

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With the additional info and pics I suspect it’s an M24 that was purchased by a law enforcement customer in the 1990s (correction: 2002 based on barrel date). (based on serial prefix, aftermarket tactical bolt knob, removed iron sight mounts, etc). I have no idea how many M24s were purchased by well-funded police departments (or federal law enforcement entities that also bought them), but that’s my guess. Neat rifle.
 
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With the additional info and pics I suspect it’s an M24 that was purchased by a law enforcement customer in the 1990s. (based on serial prefix, aftermarket tactical bolt knob, removed iron sight mounts, etc). I have no idea how many M24s were purchased by well-funded police departments (or federal law enforcement entities that also bought them), but that’s my guess. Neat rifle.
That is a good possibility. I might see if I can contact Remington and check the serial number but since their bankruptcy and breakup I'm not sure that is feasible. I guess either way it is still an M24.
 
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CRCollector does the rifle have proofmarks for Magnaflux inspection on it? Look on bottom of bolt handle and trigger guard for the letter "M" inside a circle.

Also the date code letters on the rear of your barrel "OW" indicate a June 2002 assembly date.
 
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I found it at an LGS. They had bought someone's collection. It was advertised as a U.S. property marked Remington M24. I took a chance and bought it for $2500 not knowing the finer details of this rifle. I don't know if it is glass bedded as I recently purchased it and have not removed it from the stock to check. It is sounding more likely it's a clone.

I like the rifle and agree that it was most likely sold through the LEO channel.

If you still have doubts I'll be happy to take it off your hands for the purchase price! ;)
 
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CRCollector does the rifle have proofmarks for Magnaflux inspection on it? Look on bottom of bolt handle and trigger guard for the letter "M" inside a circle.

Also the date code letters on the rear of your barrel "OW" indicate a June 2002 assembly date.
It appears to have the proof mark.
 

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Has it a M24 trigger, with regards the buttpad, real stocks have a thin buttpad which is Remington marked, where as commercial stocks have a thicker standard pad. It seems to be missing the front sight mounting block, is it drilled and just missing.
I saw a post on the internet of a Remington Defense m24 that was new in the box and it had the same stock and buttpad.
 

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I saw a post on the internet of a Remington Defense m24 that was new in the box and it had the same stock and buttpad.
The main item of interest would be if it has the Remington manufactured hammer forged 5R barrel. Count the number of rifling lands or grooves. If it has 5 of them, then I'd bet its an original M24
 

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The main item of interest would be if it has the Remington manufactured hammer forged 5R barrel. Count the number of rifling lands or grooves. If it has 5 of them, then I'd bet its an original M24
Got a link to that, one of the things which was a pain years ago was getting a Remmy marked buttpad
 

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These are the military Maganaflux proof marks
 

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I checked and it is indeed 5 groove rifling.
To be honest, I wouldnt put much faith in the 5r rifling, lots of folks doing it. With regards the barrel, to be honest, probably aftermarket, the 308 Win engraved on the side and the actual engraving which appears very shoddy. The markings should have been around 6.1 from the front of the recoil lug. The barrel markings on the left side should be, the rep in the oval, the circle M, and the triangle with x or n. The front sight base screws should be 1.125 and 1.688 from the muzzle. With regards the action, the M24 part looks great, the bolt should have the circle m as you look at it, and on the bottom metal. The box mag and follower are M24 specific and not standard items. With regards the action, the circle m on the bolt, are usually the sign its real. With regards the US markings yeah not sure why that was done.
 
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To be honest, I wouldnt put much faith in the 5r rifling, lots of folks doing it. With regards the barrel, to be honest, probably aftermarket, the 308 Win engraved on the side and the actual engraving which appears very shoddy. The markings should have been around 6.1 from the front of the recoil lug. The barrel markings on the left side should be, the rep in the oval, the circle M, and the triangle with x or n. The front sight base screws should be 1.125 and 1.688 from the muzzle. With regards the action, the M24 part looks great, the bolt should have the circle m as you look at it, and on the bottom metal. The box mag and follower are M24 specific and not standard items. With regards the action, the circle m on the bolt, are usually the sign its real. With regards the US markings yeah not sure why that was done.
 

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If you call Remington and request an M24 owner manual, they will verify your serial number to see if its authentic, and mail it no charge.
 

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I found it at an LGS. They had bought someone's collection. It was advertised as a U.S. property marked Remington M24. I took a chance and bought it for $2500 not knowing the finer details of this rifle. I don't know if it is glass bedded as I recently purchased it and have not removed it from the stock to check. It is sounding more likely it's a clone.
I assume the aluminum blocks are bedded in the stock so maybe that qualifies as bedding.
 

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I have recently acquired a Remington m24 SWS marked U.S. centered above an E prefix serial number. Barrel is marked OW (July 2002) and barrel on right side is marked .308 winchester. Scope is marked Ultra 10X-M3, serial number dates it as 1984 manufactured. Is this a Remington Defense rebuild or something else, clone, CMP?
This weapon is curious. You have read the date code backward, it is Aug 1994 not July 2002. The stock is the older profile that has a flat on the forward edge of the comb which is there for bolt clearance when taking the bolt out. Later stocks at least as late as 2006 didn't have that flat. The Remington butt pad is authentic but I can't place when the change was made away from the rubber checkered small Remington logo. The caliber stamping is amateurish for sure. A military weapon would indeed have 7.62 NATO there and not 308W. The scope, is it really a 1984? I've seen M3a's as early as 1984 but not on US Military M24s. Besides the Army Remington contract would not have placed a 10 year old scope on a new production rifle. The lack of iron sight bases could be construed as an other than military version as LEO weapons wouldn't need that accessory. The bolt handle should be SN matched to the receiver with at least the last 4 digits so that's something to look for and it appears that it does. But, Military M24s would never have the enlarged bolt handle.
 
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This weapon is curious. You have read the date code backward, it is Aug 1994 not July 2002. The stock is the older profile that has a flat on the forward edge of the comb which is there for bolt clearance when taking the bolt out. Later stocks at least as late as 2006 didn't have that flat. The Remington butt pad is authentic but I can't place when the change was made away from the rubber checkered small Remington logo. The caliber stamping is amateurish for sure. A military weapon would indeed have 7.62 NATO there and not 308W. The scope, is it really a 1984? I've seen M3a's as early as 1984 but not on US Military M24s. Besides the Army Remington contract would not have placed a 10 year old scope on a new production rifle. The lack of iron sight bases could be construed as an other than military version as LEO weapons wouldn't need that accessory. The bolt handle should be SN matched to the receiver with at least the last 4 digits so that's something to look for and it appears that it does. But, Military M24s would never have the enlarged bolt handle.
I believe it is more likely LEO. The scope is an 1984 and the bolt serial number matches the receiver. The LEO rifles I found listed on the Remington Defense website were listed as .223 or .308W, neither of which are Nato rounds.
 

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Who is currently doing, or has previously done remarking of the actions with the bottom logo perfectly centered below the Remington logo? I've seen pictures of re-engraved clones with the "M24" clearly added onto the receiver with it hanging off to the right side, uncentered. That's fairly simple to do as its just engraving, lasering, or stamping with touching up the finish. But removing the entire lower lettering and remachining the action to have it perfectly centered would demand serious skill with a price to match. I'm not aware of any gunsmith who offers that service.
 
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Who is currently doing, or has previously done remarking of the actions with the bottom logo perfectly centered below the Remington logo?
I answered my own question while searching for pictures to illustrate the differences. The Chou Brothers from Ontario, Canada used to offer a replica of the M24. Their current website says no rifle work is being accepted, and doesn't list the conversion or price. There are enough differences that it should be easily distinguishable from an original Remington produced rifle.

 

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Here is my M24 A2’ish Badger bottom metal, HST A2 stock, MARS M24 Rail, Jewell trigger, clamp on bolt knob, Sig Tango 6 scope. Shoot tactical matches with it. Shoots 1/4 to 1/2 inch all day. FGMM 175gn 308 and FGMM 175gn (7.62) version. I have all the original parts to put it back to stock. This is the euro optic version when it was stock.
 
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Picked up this odd-ball scope on another forum recently. (Seller had and sold 7 of them, and I bought the one with patina. I’m guessing these came out of a govt auction similar to the dozen or so Mil-Spec NF scopes that sold last year at the govplanet auction website). Still researching, but I got it this weekend and here's what I know thus far.

1. It's a 2003 dated Leupold Vari-X scope, 3.5-10x (Suffix is "L" but the other scopes were "M" code which is 2004 scope)
2. It has a "7.62mm M118LR” BDC turret
3. It was apparently modified by Premier Reticle to be Front Focal Plane, and has their "Gen II" Mil-Dot reticle as used on the early S&B 3-12 scopes (aka M8541 scopes).
4. Rings are early ARMS #22 mediums with-out the lever stop (typically associated with MK 12 SPR/Mod 0 program..)
5. It has some very old camo paint (tan + some gray) and has "33" painted on the top turret.

Here is what I learned thus far. The scope's S/N is from the INOD (Improved Night Observation Device) Block 1 contract (circa 2004). It originally went to Ft. Carson. It was used with the McCann rail that had a 0.25” drop-down in front of the bell and replaced the M24 and MK13 Remington scope bases. The ARMS-22M rings apparently allowed the NV to line up best on that rail. The PVS-22 was about 1.43” optical centerline. This was the first clip-on NV optic from the INOD contest, but later SOPMOD standardized to 1.535” height rings to optimal center focal point alignment b/t daytime scope and the newer NV optics.

Apparently the INOD Block 1 contract was modified to specify Front Focal Plane reticles for use with NV gear, which explains the existence of these odd-ball Premier Reticle modified Leupold scopes. (I was told by a retired SF SOTIC instructor who was involved in the testing that 2nd focal plane reticles were “distracting” when used with NOD gear).

I also asked a local Army Ranger who used M24s and Mk 13 (Mod 1 and Mod 5), and he recalled these FFP scopes. He noted that the ARMS 22 rings were "junk" b/c they tended to slip and that they went with solid rings shortly thereafter. So I guess this was actually used on M24s with the MIRS rail and some had 300 WinMag BDC caps for the early Mk 13s. It was used on some Mk 11s as well per another veteran.

So, I mounted it on a MIRs rail for a pic, as I guess that was the original intent circa 2004. (I don't have a PVS-22). I doubt I'll put it on my M24R which has a nice 1989 dated M3A Ultra scope, but just a interesting fyi optic that might have been used on an M24 (or at least intended for a long action Remington)
 

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When doing internet searches, the old original M24 thread will often show up. Here is the link to that circa 2010, 25 page subject. Many of the pictures are now missing. But its still has all the information and more than this current thread does.
 
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When doing internet searches, the old original M24 thread will often show up. Here is the link to that circa 2010, 25 page subject. Many of the pictures are now missing. But its still has all the information and more than this current thread does.
What a nice surprise, finding the old thread. I've gone back in this and have actually been able to reload some of my photos that were gone. Sadly, some are indeed lost but I'll continue to try and recover some of my posts.
 
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