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At least 12 Dead in Virginia Beach shooting


I feel the same way about the media outrage. If it was a card carrying member of the NRA wearing a MAGA hat we would have known his name by now. And not just that, they would’ve also exposed his entire browser history as well as all his posts on reddit or 4chan.

But...

Since they’re not releasing the identity then I’m guessing he doesn’t quite fit the narrative of what they say mass shooters are.

One other observation is that they said the officer who was shot was saved by his bulletproof vest. This leads me to believe a pistol was involved and not an evil black rifle full of military features.
 
Police Chief stated perp used .45 equipped with extended magazines and a suppressor. He made a point that it was a long running gun battle with 2 detectives and 2 canine officers.
 
Just heard the perp had a "Rifle"
and a semiautomatic pistol
Not what kind of rifle....
 
Willing targets,,, when are people gonna learn. Gov worker , 99% chance democrat, victims probably democrat also... sad but it has nothing to do with me or my rights.

Interesting is that word is he was equipped with a suppressor on the .45 -- will wonder if that will be verified as legal. I can hear Kaine, Northam and Warner calling for VA to ban suppressors....

Fact is, there was LEO all around the Court House (notice how they said in early warning tweets that it WAS NOT the Courthouse), and still took to long and people lost their lives.

Erosion of rights, GFZ's and sheeple not willing to fight for their lives.
 
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AJ is right. But where I work the Democrats don't think getting shot is a freedom of expression. I'm not saying they are armed because that may indicate a violation of our code of conduct.
 
Wait....

So there were multiple mentions of shots being heard. But he was using a suppressed gun? How is that possible?!?!?! Suppressors are bad. They are so quiet no one can hear them.

Ban suppressors.
theres a head scratch-er,

If anyone raises that point " they heard the police returning fire "
 
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Perp has little knowledge of guns.
Not a real suppressors, it's most likely some dipshits attempt at suppressors or "bloop tube".
Duh....of course he's a fucking resmgusterdd democrat. That is pretty clear looking at his picture...at least 90% chance he is.

12 people dead is a tragedy. The bigger tragedy will be the loss of free men's last few liberties.
 
Came for the expected comments and definitely was not disappointed. Innocent people were killed and politics is immediately thrown into the mix. You guys do realize that no one is coming for our guns and that not everything requires a political standing right?

Human greed drives everything. What fuels greed? Money. What does the gun lobby throw ridiculous amounts of at politicians? Money. What influences votes? Money. If our guns/rights weren’t taken when a bunch of white children were killed in CT, do you think it will ever change? All you do is fuel ratings/views/algorithms to keep the partisan bullshit spewing online.

It’s like some of you desperately want conflict to occur in our country yet don’t realize how blindly ignorant that is. ...let alone what kind of target that would make us to our foreign enemies. But yet a lot of y’all on here keep hammering that wedge deeper and deeper, not realizing that the fantasy you dream of is exactly that. A fantasy. A fantasy that you think you want but have zero fucking ability to sustain. (I know there are those of you who just read that and immediately increased your heart rate and began to internally go through all of your “SHTF SOPs” so you can provide a reply of how ready you are but all that means is that your confirming my point...by not looking at the big picture).

We all know the media doesn’t have “experts” on hand to advise on situations involving shootings. Hell, police reps can’t event get it right let alone most gun owners. So everyone jumps to conclusions and immediately starts with politics.

It makes no sense for people to be so ignorantly hell bent on fueling the divide.

See y’all in the comments section of the next shooting that claims innocent lives for no fucking reason.
 
Came for the expected comments and definitely was not disappointed. Innocent people were killed and politics is immediately thrown into the mix. You guys do realize that no one is coming for our guns and that not everything requires a political standing right?

Human greed drives everything. What fuels greed? Money. What does the gun lobby throw ridiculous amounts of at politicians? Money. What influences votes? Money. If our guns/rights weren’t taken when a bunch of white children were killed in CT, do you think it will ever change? All you do is fuel ratings/views/algorithms to keep the partisan bullshit spewing online.

It’s like some of you desperately want conflict to occur in our country yet don’t realize how blindly ignorant that is. ...let alone what kind of target that would make us to our foreign enemies. But yet a lot of y’all on here keep hammering that wedge deeper and deeper, not realizing that the fantasy you dream of is exactly that. A fantasy. A fantasy that you think you want but have zero fucking ability to sustain. (I know there are those of you who just read that and immediately increased your heart rate and began to internally go through all of your “SHTF SOPs” so you can provide a reply of how ready you are but all that means is that your confirming my point...by not looking at the big picture).

We all know the media doesn’t have “experts” on hand to advise on situations involving shootings. Hell, police reps can’t event get it right let alone most gun owners. So everyone jumps to conclusions and immediately starts with politics.

It makes no sense for people to be so ignorantly hell bent on fueling the divide.

See y’all in the comments section of the next shooting that claims innocent lives for no fucking reason.


If we do not "politicize" it, the leftist scumbags will. As we have seen in the recent Colorado school shooting, the fucking Brady Bunch jumped right into the pool before the police tape had even been cleared from the crime scene. Had it not been for the brave and smart students standing their ground and calling them the fuck out right there, the memorial vigil for the slain hero would have been turned into yet another circus freak show by the statist parasites.

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Erosion of rights, GFZ's and sheeple not willing to fight for their lives.
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Worst possible combo in a dice game straight out of hell, man...
 
Came for the expected comments and definitely was not disappointed. Innocent people were killed and politics is immediately thrown into the mix. You guys do realize that no one is coming for our guns and that not everything requires a political standing right?

Human greed drives everything. What fuels greed? Money. What does the gun lobby throw ridiculous amounts of at politicians? Money. What influences votes? Money. If our guns/rights weren’t taken when a bunch of white children were killed in CT, do you think it will ever change? All you do is fuel ratings/views/algorithms to keep the partisan bullshit spewing online.

It’s like some of you desperately want conflict to occur in our country yet don’t realize how blindly ignorant that is. ...let alone what kind of target that would make us to our foreign enemies. But yet a lot of y’all on here keep hammering that wedge deeper and deeper, not realizing that the fantasy you dream of is exactly that. A fantasy. A fantasy that you think you want but have zero fucking ability to sustain. (I know there are those of you who just read that and immediately increased your heart rate and began to internally go through all of your “SHTF SOPs” so you can provide a reply of how ready you are but all that means is that your confirming my point...by not looking at the big picture).

We all know the media doesn’t have “experts” on hand to advise on situations involving shootings. Hell, police reps can’t event get it right let alone most gun owners. So everyone jumps to conclusions and immediately starts with politics.

It makes no sense for people to be so ignorantly hell bent on fueling the divide.

See y’all in the comments section of the next shooting that claims innocent lives for no fucking reason.
You sir are an idiot . They , the Dems/Socialists//Communists have clearly stated their 8ntentions to do away with the II Amendment . Kaine is a known Communist who ran around in South America with a Commie priest that was killing other priests and nuns for not telling their congregations to support the Communists . So much so that Kaine was on a CIA hit list .
Just to recap ;
Feinstein wants your guns .
Bloomberg wants your guns .
Pittsburgh Pa. wants your guns .
Chicago wants your guns .
Kamala Harris , Booker , numerous lobby groups , The UN , Schumer , Cuomo , the MSM , Portland , Seattle , Denver . And a horrifying number of elected qho claimed to be pro 2A only to be elected and fuck the voters . Dicks Sporting Goods .
George Soros .
Ok your turn moron . Bring a fact . I don't care , state a color or hell even trace your hand . Fuck , say potato for all I care just something factual . Ok I'll state another FACT . The left will run naked in the fuckin streets with this like the little kid in the Vietnam pic who was burned by napalm if they think it will ban guns . In light of the events over the past three years your statement would indicate that you are the one adorned in tin foil .
 
Dude was a registered democrat, please dont tell me this idiot didnt think that the way he decided to invoke his evil would benefit his belief system? Just like the idiot in NZ, that idiot even wrote it down ... want to be f*&king dem martyrs but all they are are liberal ftards.

Now their fellow democrats will use this to pursue their bullshit political ambitions. This shit has been going on for a decade.

Idiot decided he would off himself, but wanted his 5 mins of fame. F him and the dem party.
 
Dude was a registered democrat, please dont tell me this idiot didnt think that the way he decided to invoke his evil would benefit his belief system? Just like the idiot in NZ, that idiot even wrote it down ... want to be f*&king dem martyrs but all they are are liberal ftards.

Now their fellow democrats will use this to pursue their bullshit political ambitions. This shit has been going on for a decade.

Idiot decided he would off himself, but wanted his 5 mins of fame. F him and the dem party.


All of the fucking mass murderers that has graced this country, and other countries with their pestilence in the last several decades had been leftists. Either leftists or Islamic militants.

And I am inclined to say that: "One is happenstance, two is coincidence, and three is enemy action". What about much more than three?
 
Of course the media probably has their shit twisted. How would he have possession of a legal supressor if he just purchased last week??? I have been waiting since last September to legally take possession of mine.
 
Scumbag is dead...


And it is also mentioned that the gun he used had been purchased legally. Fuck me sideways with a cactus...


Uhh, negative. I will kindly bow out of the cactus fucking.

@M8541Reaper I understand your points made above and the background that you bring to the table. A quick zoom in on your avatar pic tells me enough. I spent most of my time in an area significantly more fucked up socially than A theater. Actual civil war on a large scale was a monthly occurance between folks. Most people have no idea how mean and nasty that gets quickly. It is like a microwave dinner meal of Stalingrad. Ready to eat in 5 minutes. However, I do agree with some on here in that anything and any state of existence with freedom is preferable to surrendering our rights to own firearms.
I do hold out hope that such a time will not visit us, however my doubts grow daily. I have seen the abject depravity and destruction that civil war brings and I would prefer it only to tyranny.

We must always be alert however. They would have wished it so.

“Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
 
I understand your sentiment against the media sir, but it would help if you made a cogent and intellectual point instead of casting aspersions that are not backed up by facts and indeed have not even happened yet. The MSM will give us enough to criticize shortly.
 
Normally respect your opinion 8541 but you are wrong on every point you make here.

Came for the expected comments and definitely was not disappointed. Innocent people were killed and politics is immediately thrown into the mix. You guys do realize that no one is coming for our guns and that not everything requires a political standing right?

Human greed drives everything. What fuels greed? Money. What does the gun lobby throw ridiculous amounts of at politicians? Money. What influences votes? Money. If our guns/rights weren’t taken when a bunch of white children were killed in CT, do you think it will ever change? All you do is fuel ratings/views/algorithms to keep the partisan bullshit spewing online.

It’s like some of you desperately want conflict to occur in our country yet don’t realize how blindly ignorant that is. ...let alone what kind of target that would make us to our foreign enemies. But yet a lot of y’all on here keep hammering that wedge deeper and deeper, not realizing that the fantasy you dream of is exactly that. A fantasy. A fantasy that you think you want but have zero fucking ability to sustain. (I know there are those of you who just read that and immediately increased your heart rate and began to internally go through all of your “SHTF SOPs” so you can provide a reply of how ready you are but all that means is that your confirming my point...by not looking at the big picture).

We all know the media doesn’t have “experts” on hand to advise on situations involving shootings. Hell, police reps can’t event get it right let alone most gun owners. So everyone jumps to conclusions and immediately starts with politics.

It makes no sense for people to be so ignorantly hell bent on fueling the divide.

See y’all in the comments section of the next shooting that claims innocent lives for no fucking reason.
 
I understand his point within the larger geo political situation, especially with China’s aggressiveness worldwide right now. However, I would put our freedoms over the legitimate and significant geopolitical concerns since as Americans we have historically been able to always weather the storm from without if our liberties are secure from within.
 
I agree with your overall general sentiment, however, your light dismissal shows that you may be under informed in some key areas.

BTW, trueshotgunclub.com has a deal for 2000 rounds of .223 Wolf Gold for $565 shipped anywhere in the CONUS. It shows out of stock but if you add it to cart it is in stock. I just got a case. It might be wise to get a case or 10 considering the current climate.
 
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Came for the expected comments and definitely was not disappointed. Innocent people were killed and politics is immediately thrown into the mix. You guys do realize that no one is coming for our guns and that not everything requires a political standing right?

Human greed drives everything. What fuels greed? Money. What does the gun lobby throw ridiculous amounts of at politicians? Money. What influences votes? Money. If our guns/rights weren’t taken when a bunch of white children were killed in CT, do you think it will ever change? All you do is fuel ratings/views/algorithms to keep the partisan bullshit spewing online.

It’s like some of you desperately want conflict to occur in our country yet don’t realize how blindly ignorant that is. ...let alone what kind of target that would make us to our foreign enemies. But yet a lot of y’all on here keep hammering that wedge deeper and deeper, not realizing that the fantasy you dream of is exactly that. A fantasy. A fantasy that you think you want but have zero fucking ability to sustain. (I know there are those of you who just read that and immediately increased your heart rate and began to internally go through all of your “SHTF SOPs” so you can provide a reply of how ready you are but all that means is that your confirming my point...by not looking at the big picture).

We all know the media doesn’t have “experts” on hand to advise on situations involving shootings. Hell, police reps can’t event get it right let alone most gun owners. So everyone jumps to conclusions and immediately starts with politics.

It makes no sense for people to be so ignorantly hell bent on fueling the divide.

See y’all in the comments section of the next shooting that claims innocent lives for no fucking reason.

As one of the few people on this site I actually admire and respect said to me some time back..."Welcome to the internet."

In the video, Northham was the one standing to the left of the Chief.

I can only think of one type of first aid I would have rendered to the shooter....the type he had just handed out.
 
Hmmm..."suppressed" .45 pistol, but gunshots heard...

I wodner if they're confusing a 3 port compensator (like used in open class IDPA) with an actual suppressor? Those(compensators) are fairly common on .45's, same with the extended magazines