Rifle Scopes Atacr gen 2

[JohnDeereGuy1996]

Was just curious if there have been any rumblings of a gen 2 atacr. I recently sold all of mine because the rotating oculars drove me crazy. Now I keep finding myself looking at them again. Really feel like the atacr line is due for some updates and didn’t know if anyone had the scoop.

 

[71firebird400]

I agree but at the same time the ATACR compares favorably against it's peers, even in 2024. NF certainly doesn't rush things to market.

 

[1911hombre]

I do not understand how the rotating ocular is a big deal to some. I put the hinge of the scope cap at 9:00 at lowest power and use the power throw lever. Done.

 

[ma smith]

I do not understand how the rotating ocular is a big deal to some. I put the hinge of the scope cap at 9:00 at lowest power and use the power throw lever. Done.

It depends on what you use the rifle for...rotaing caps are more an issue than rotating ocular IMHO.

It can obstruct slightines, bolt path, ect. It typically happens not the way you expect it. IE, most a problem when it gets bumped, then you move it, and its a suprise. For a match rifle, this is sub-optimal, but its easily solved (ie strip the flip caps). At the range or in otherwise the field, its typically a non-issue.

I've never seen issues "optically" etc with the rotating ocular. And the diopter has a locking ring. I would recommend you use a mark to note correct diopter settings, should anything ever get out of line, however. But thats probably a good best practice for a professional/comp rifle, not specific to NF.

But I too am curious what's coming.

 

[FatBoy]

Use a 100 concepts cover on the back. Done.

 

[carbonbased]

Use a 100 concepts cover on the back. Done.

I must say, that’s a pretty good idea! Especially with NF ATACR oculars: https://onehundredconcepts.com/products/shockcollar

 

[FatBoy]

I must say, that’s a pretty good idea! Especially with NF ATACR oculars: https://onehundredconcepts.com/products/shockcollar

The shock cord collar is new to me. I just use self adhering bandage to control the anchor point. It’s super cheap and gives the scope some padding for when I dump the rifle in the dump box/barrel as well. I got the cammo shit at sportsman for like $6 per 100’.

 

[rlsmith1]

I’d love a 2-12 version or update to the whole line. Anyone have anything width sharing?

 

[FuhQ]

Was just curious if there have been any rumblings of a gen 2 atacr. I recently sold all of mine because the rotating oculars drove me crazy. Now I keep finding myself looking at them again. Really feel like the atacr line is due for some updates and didn’t know if anyone had the scoop.

Bro, they still make NXS's after 30 years... I wouldn't hold my breath for anytime soon. You got about another [checks watch] 10-15 more years to go...

And I agree, the rotating ocular is beyond annoying, and the mediocre (for MSRP price) glass of my ATACR F1 5-25x56 MIL-XT is kind of a pisser, but it is what it is...

 

[NateVA]

I'm going to hold on to the fantasy that NF (and other companies) have scopes on deck ready to release whenever Swarovski's patent runs out. Not that companies that use LOW currently care about the patent anyway.

 

[ma smith]

Can somebody who is fluent in patent-law, read the swaro patent and tell us the expiration date?

 

[jbuck88]

20years after it was filed.

 

[ma smith]

20years after it was filed.

OK. Google shows "Anticipated expiration" of April 8th, 2026

Application EP06007466A events
First worldwide family litigation filed 2006-04-08
Application filed by Swarovski Optik AG and Co KG 2006-04-08
Priority to EP10001987.6A 2007-01-24
Publication of EP1746451A2 2007-07-11
Publication of EP1746451A3 2010-06-09
Publication of EP1746451B1 2019-10-09
Application granted 2019-10-09

Publication of EP1746451B2
Status Active
2026-04-08 Anticipated expiration

 

[RM579]

It's been a year since this was posted originally. Any word on an ATACR successor? I'm thinking about the 4-16 for my LMT MARS-H but don't want to miss out on something new right after I buy one.

 

[MarshallDodge]

It's been a year since this was posted originally. Any word on an ATACR successor? I'm thinking about the 4-16 for my LMT MARS-H but don't want to miss out on something new right after I buy one.

I'm a bit of a Nightforce fan. You will not be disappointed in the 4-16 ATACR.

 

[CSTactical]

It's been a year since this was posted originally. Any word on an ATACR successor? I'm thinking about the 4-16 for my LMT MARS-H but don't want to miss out on something new right after I buy one.

We just received the Mil-C in stock!

- Richard

 

[Mcgivro]

It's been a year since this was posted originally. Any word on an ATACR successor? I'm thinking about the 4-16 for my LMT MARS-H but don't want to miss out on something new right after I buy one.

I got mine two months ago and it may be my favorite non-firearm piece of gear I own.

 

[SRPowah]

It's been a year since this was posted originally. Any word on an ATACR successor? I'm thinking about the 4-16 for my LMT MARS-H but don't want to miss out on something new right after I buy one.

Gen 2 could drop tomorrow with built in thermal and 10 ounces lighter, and even then the current 4-16x42 will be worth having for years to come.
Send it.

 

[Glassaholic]

OK. Google shows "Anticipated expiration" of April 8th, 2026

That sounds about right to me. I was at Schmidt and Bender the other day and they have a countdown clock

 

[Glassaholic]

On the whole ATACR II front. Yes, the ATACR series is one of the "oldest" scope lines on the market today and I would love to see some fresh updates; however, as long as the scopes are still making NF money I doubt they feel any pressure to update. Also, NF has been one of the few companies who has not opted for massive price increases and it is likely the reason is they are still making good money for these older designs. For me, the biggest deficit with current ATACR series is the limited FOV at low magnification, I would love to see an ATACR II with wider FOV throughout the mag range. Would like to see them move up to a 6x erector while maintaining DOF and eyebox forgiveness (an ATACR II 3-18x42 would put a serious dent in the overpriced S&B Meta FFP 3-18 scope). While I love their illumination, the push button drives me nuts as I have to cycle through to change, would much prefer a rheostat style of illumination, but this is a minor gripe. It's too bad they lost the patent lawsuit to Leupold on the zero lock with the 4-16x42 ATACR, I'd love to see that low profile turret with the push button lock on other models, maybe that patent is expiring soon

 

[Skok3y]

I do not understand how the rotating ocular is a big deal to some. I put the hinge of the scope cap at 9:00 at lowest power and use the power throw lever. Done.

I actually think it is my favorite ocular. I felt like I was able to set it better than others and then lock it down nicely too. I would want more scopes to have one similar.

 

[PappyM3]

On the whole ATACR II front. Yes, the ATACR series is one of the "oldest" scope lines on the market today and I would love to see some fresh updates; however, as long as the scopes are still making NF money I doubt they feel any pressure to update. Also, NF has been one of the few companies who has not opted for massive price increases and it is likely the reason is they are still making good money for these older designs. For me, the biggest deficit with current ATACR series is the limited FOV at low magnification, I would love to see an ATACR II with wider FOV throughout the mag range. Would like to see them move up to a 6x erector while maintaining DOF and eyebox forgiveness (an ATACR II 3-18x42 would put a serious dent in the overpriced S&B Meta FFP 3-18 scope). While I love their illumination, the push button drives me nuts as I have to cycle through to change, would much prefer a rheostat style of illumination, but this is a minor gripe. It's too bad they lost the patent lawsuit to Leupold on the zero lock with the 4-16x42 ATACR, I'd love to see that low profile turret with the push button lock on other models, maybe that patent is expiring soon

Labradar refused to innovate because they kept selling…. Until Garmin came along. Then it was too late for Labradar.

I do realize NF =/= Labradar and the markets are very different. But the metaphorical story still has a lesson.

 

[SRPowah]

Labradar refused to innovate because they kept selling…. Until Garmin came along. Then it was too late for Labradar.

I do realize NF =/= Labradar and the markets are very different. But the metaphorical story still has a lesson.

That metaphor is kind of shit in the context of NF considering they are still innovating and releasing new products since the release of the OG ATACR in 2015. They even expanded the ATACR series in that time. The lessons they learned with the NX8 series may be in play with the next gen ATACR. I wouldn't be surprised if they are holding back waiting until a certain patent to expire.

In the meantime, everyone can continue to buy the competition if they feel NF is outdated again like they were in 2014 pre-ATACR.