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Is Pay Pal or Venmo good method to conduct business?
I have a couple things to sell and am not sure which is better, or if there’s a difference.
 

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    Is Pay Pal or Venmo good method to conduct business?
    I have a couple things to sell and am not sure which is better, or if there’s a difference.
    Venmo is terrible

    PayPal g and s is good till they find it’s gun stuff and deny your claim.
    Someone said if you PayPal with a credit card you can reverse charges ?
     

    HonkyTonk86

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    Just sold a scope and received funds but the guy wants me to wait a week or two to send to him. Fishy? or is he just hiding it from his wife lol
    I'm holding all the cards so don't think its a scam but....
     

    Mallardmilitia

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    Just sold a scope and received funds but the guy wants me to wait a week or two to send to him. Fishy? or is he just hiding it from his wife lol
    I'm holding all the cards so don't think its a scam but....
    Never had that happen before but maybe he is out of town? A phone call usually is a good indicator too. Also how did he pay? Maybe trying to make a case against you through PayPal that you never shipped?
     

    Packfan

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    I am a pretty new seller here and have gotten a number of "Still Available?" posts and PM's from brand new (first post or so) members. They then "vaporize" and don't respond to my PM's back.

    I don't see the purpose if they are scammers as I am the selling party for the rifle involved. It does result in a longer thread and maybe some legit buyers may not respond right after a "PM Sent" post.

    Maybe I have been unlucky and they are legit and just change their mind? Are there any other motives for this?
     

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    I am a pretty new seller here and have gotten a number of "Still Available?" posts and PM's from brand new (first post or so) members. They then "vaporize" and don't respond to my PM's back.

    I don't see the purpose if they are scammers as I am the selling party for the rifle involved. It does result in a longer thread and maybe some legit buyers may not respond right after a "PM Sent" post.

    Maybe I have been unlucky and they are legit and just change their mind? Are there any other motives for this?
    I have been on the site a long time, and been a seller on and off as need be.

    There seems to be an uptick in the low-ball douche who never responds back. They offer $100 for 5 boxes of 6.5 CM and want me to pay shipping. Yes in 2016, no in 2022.

    If I know them and have done business with them before I don't care.

    If I have never seen them before then I block them.

    I try to price things so they will sell now. I don't want to deal with offers. But everyone here, and everyone everywhere else on the gun-interwebs likes to lowball.

    Offers like 40% of a $1100 item. Sometimes worse. I don't get insulted by it, but sometimes they are bold enough to write in the sales add

    Still get a lot of emails from people telling me they aren't paying 2022 prices for stuff. Then they can find someone else to buy it from.

    I don't have a shop, and I don't sell things super regularly but I don't want to take it in the shorts when I sell something.

    Another ranty bitchy thing I have noticed is that everyone thinks that because it is 2022, their custom action worth $1000 new, and the barrel they have 1500 rounds of 6.5 CM or 6mm CM is worth $2200. Even though they beat the hell out of it at matches until they bought a $1600 action, and now they want to pay off their new action through you.

    In the end it is still the best place to sell anything gun related on the internet as an individual. Worth $20 a month to subscribe for that.
     
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    Before you take part in a purchase or sale, check the feedback section of the buyer or seller's profile to see feedback from previous experiences with that user. Member profile>Feedback Stats. If a user doesn't have much feedback, proceed at your own risk. If you do complete a purchase, do everyone else a favor and add your own feedback for that user which is also done from the user's profile.
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    Odd, I am not able to edit my Thread Title or Description in my Buy - Sell - Trade post. I am simply wanting to edit both areas to reflect that I sold my item. what do you @alexj-12 recommend?
     
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    rifleman1981

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    Pretty sure we have another scammer. Asked for pics and to have him text them to me, this was what I got. Stock pic and no text.
     

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    Desert Demon

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    I have seen a number of users on Sniper’s Hide (and other related forums) getting their accounts “hacked” lately. There are very simple measures everyone can take to prevent someone from gaining access to your account.

    It is 2022 and the unfortunate reality is there will continue to be lowlifes sitting around the world trying to scam a buck off of you. It is the responsibility of you to protect you and your account. By doing so you are also going to limit the ability of these guys to scam other users.

    1) Don’t reuse the same password or a simple variation of the same one.
    2) Enable 2 Factor Authentication. It takes a few extra seconds to log in.

    That’s it.

    So many people reuse the same username/password. Then when they hack one of your accounts, they have them all. I sure hope the guys getting hacked take better measures to protect their online banking.

    Most of the users on here take many measures in their daily lives to protect them and their families from physical harm. Take a few extra steps to protect yourself online, and let’s face it—a lot of people spend a lot of time on here.
     

    jMarine

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    How do I vet a potential buyer that literally has no other interactions associated to their account except on my thread? Not to mention everything in the DM is misspelled. Seems very red flag to me.
     

    Laskey0104

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    Hi all, need help verifying Ehudson13 and Nsconductor05.

    They claim the ehudson account was shut down due to spam, but it’s not so the NSconductor05 account was created? Can mods help??
     

    Laskey0104

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    However you’re comfortable. Make sure person has good feedback or people to vouch for them. I’ve done zelle and PayPal
     
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    What is to stop them from not sending anything and disappearing?
    Good feedback and people to vouch for them. No doubt there’s a sense of trust. If they don’t have feedback- ask for someone that is on the hide that can vouch ( that person better have feedback…). U can always ask for a phone number and call the person. You’ll figure out real quick if it’s real or not
     
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    pinkhair

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    vviper is a scammer, phone number he used was 470-665-7421. Be on the lookout for him.
    He's actually pretty smart too, he copied a photo of a stock and then photoshopped a pic of a piece of paper with his info and the date on it into the picture.
     

    Artcaliber

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    That’s why I ask before I buy if the OP would write down there user name and date and update a photo of whatever it is I am buying so you can see it next to there item because anyone can post a picture of something Fraudulent.
     

    CLT_Gamecock

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    So, as a new member on this board, what can I do to show/prove I’m not a scammer? I’ve got 90+ confirmed buys/sales on Reddit. Is there a way to link to that feedback?
     

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    Laskey0104

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    Do you know anyone else on here? Depends what you’re buying..
    I’ve done referrals, I’ve called people, and I’ve also worked a deal where I sent 1/2 money, got a product and then sent other half. Then, became a good referral for that person.
    Really depends on the person you’re doing business with
     

    _newshooter

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    Is there a way to track down members. I had a member Henry Paul sell me a KRG bravo stock. I sent money through zelle and he’s stating nothing went through after sending zelle confirmation. I can’t find his message in my inbox on SH but I do have the conversation on my email.
     

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    troupe

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    I just had something listed and received a PM requesting my phone number and email address. The guy said that his friend is not a member, but could be interested. I replied that I would be glad to answer any questions or post any further pics. He went ghost.

    I currently have another person up here that I have sent a US Postal money order to, no response with the product. When I checked via PM he responded one time and said that he has received the money order and in a couple of days he will send me a tracking number, almost two weeks has passed since he said that, he has the M/O and he will not respond to any PM's. I have been patient and getting tired of no response or product being sent. He appeared ok so if I don't get a response by tomorrow, off to the attorney generals office, as well as postal inspector.
     

    Contender-1

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    All advice is appreciated. I'm interested in buying an item from a member who has been a member since 2021. No feedback and 15 posts with 5 coming in the last week. Asked for local FFL and only wants bank check or usps money order. What can I do to insulate myself from fraud. All of us started with no feedback and limites posts for a while. He did respond to post I through under the WTB tab. What forum would you use for a referral verification?

    Thanks in advance,
    Bob
     

    Baron23

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    Posts under that acct name have been placed in banned status and the threads have been re titled "Hacked Account" with Do Not Send Money replacing the txt. The mods/admin are all over it.
    There a way to contact mods/admins if this happens again? He was making new posts really quickly, I was resorting to hitting the report button and DM'ing anyone that replied with an "I'll take it" to warn them.

    Thanks
     

    Baron23

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    There a way to contact mods/admins if this happens again? He was making new posts really quickly, I was resorting to hitting the report button and DM'ing anyone that replied with an "I'll take it" to warn them.

    Thanks
    Just report it is all I know. Maybe PM a mod but I don’t know who is on when.
     
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    flysolo

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    Is there any legit reason for a seller not to accept PayPal goods and services if the buyer pays the fees?
    I’ve never been paid via G&S before so I’m clueless. Is there a hold on their account or anything?
     

    83Scout

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    Scammers are hacking guys profiles and getting crafty with posts. Ask them basic questions that don’t make sense and you get a PM “what do you mean”. Then the post gets deleted.

    -Stupid cheap prices
    -Pictures you can’t click on
    -dumb responses

    Just a heads up for whoever needs to see this. I’m sure the actual owner of the account wants to know.

    Just FYI
     

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    We are definitely gonna talk on the phone before I buy anything from you.

    Definitely; preferably a phone number that shows up in the seller's name in a Google search. Hacker's have a hard time stealing your phone in addition to your account.
     
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    Randy Watson
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    HeightOverBore aka Chance Weston​

    Purchased a NGAL for $5500 from this man on 10/18/22, package arrived on 10/28/22 with the content missing.

    Tracking: https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction?qtc_tLabels1=9468109205568884254965
    Note: 5days of delay from the point label was printed out and to actual scan

    Insurance claim covering $5000 was finally approved on 12/7/22, paid out to insurance holder Chance Weston.
    Weston was suppose to transfer the funds to my account, but he has not sent the funds as of 12/19/22

    Weston ceased all comms since 12/15/22
    *Message were sent via text, call, pm/dms through forums this man is known to lurk around.

    ETA: Weston says funds are on "hold" by PayPal for now over 2 weeks which is most likely bullshit.
    Excuse after excuse. Beware of this seller. Been selling several NGALs, LMT, KAC rifles.

    Chance Weston

    Phone: (310) 691-0869

    Email: [email protected]


    Tacswap : https://www.tacswap.com/user/gucci

    AR15.com: Username: BoatingAccident

    SniperHide: https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/members/heightoverbore.152427/

     
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    Btar21

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    Member Casbigg aka Christopher Goode is a scammer

    PM'd me on a WTB I had posted. He requested to email me the pics of the item I requested. In his email made a claim to be officer Christopher Goode.

    Unfortunately, I went ahead and sent funds (thankfully not much) through PayPal F&F on Sunday and have since been requesting shipping.

    I started getting a little more suspicious this evening, so I looked up the name did some further research and found the forum notes below from a similar type of site, the same info he sent me.


    I am going to call this sheriff's office in Utah tomorrow and try to reach the real officer Goode and let him know I believe someone is using his name and badge. I will also reach out to a close friend who works for one of the agencies and pass on the email exchange.

    If you are dealing with this member, please beware. I foolishly lost $500
     
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    Btar21

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    As a little addition to my previous post, after further investigation, the pics of the item I was buying that Casbigg sent were actually taken from other members legit previous sales post. If you don’t know the seller, be sure to do just a few checks and balances. I got lazy and it cost me.
     
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    As a little addition to my previous post, after further investigation, the pics of the item I was buying that Casbigg sent were actually taken from other members legit previous sales post. If you don’t know the seller, be sure to do just a few checks and balances. I got lazy and it cost me.
    This has been brought up to my attention by @Btar21 that he was scammed by other member in a transaction using my pics of the items from other listing, so I would like to leave a tip that has helped me through out the years on every forums from couple hundreds to thousands dollar worth of transactions. That is always ASK for a fresh pic of the items that has a HAND-WRITTEN note with the information OF YOUR CHOICE (your phone number or date for example) included. If seller fails to provide this or turns aggressive, IT IS TIME TO WALK AWAY. It’s not worth the hassle. A true seller would not hesitate to accommodate his/her customers. This is why I always include a hand written note on every pic in my listings, just to give buyers a peace of mind when dealing with me.

    Hope this help and I am truly sorry for what happened to @Btar21
     

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    That can be a good tip, but scammers have learned to manipulate stolen pictures to avoid image searches and to photoshop hand written notes. They are a tricky bunch.
     
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    I have no clue what you are trying to accomplish here, the people are probably not real

    These scams are organized crime, they steal identities and what not and those names are probably fake.

    Sure you can discuss methods, but the methods never change, just the names and addresses. So any attempt at recovery is more than likely futile.

    I would say stop trying to "Name" your scammer, that is a waste of time
     

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    For clarity, I’m not trying to “name” anything or anyone. I’m trying to let other fellow members of the potential threat in the small chance they are also talking to them. If I can help one member from beings scammed, it’s worth my 10 min to post it. It’s a simple common courtesy
     

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    You are not doing any of that; what happens is you create panic,

    Then everyone wants us to vet their transaction

    the roadmap to the scammers has been laid out in detail for YEARS, you are wasting your time and ours by extending the pain, ours and yours. You are not helping you are cluttering up the site with bullshit

    Stop doing WTB threads, stop looking for non existent deals, stop letting transactions go forward without hitting Google even once, it's pretty fucking simple. you have people on here doing transactions for years that never get scammed, funny how that works

    It's called common fucking sense
     

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    Is there any legit reason for a seller not to accept PayPal goods and services if the buyer pays the fees?
    I’ve never been paid via G&S before so I’m clueless. Is there a hold on their account or anything?
    Older post, I know, but haven't seen anyone else answer it.

    IMO, yes. Sales using PP totaling $600 per calendar year will earn you a 1099 from PP. If you have the receipts for everything to prove that you sold the stuff at a loss, you can get out of paying the income tax. Considering how much some guys buy/sell, they could get it in the ass.
     
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    Glock1943

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    Recently completed a sale for $6500
    Took pics as requested
    Had buyers name on a paper with date and rifle in pics “ hostage pic” to ensure item is in their possession and available

    Exchanged phone numbers for texting

    Reviewed the feedback of buyer







    always have had great transactions but be sure to protect yourself

    there also new sites that will hold money in transactions till both parties are satisfied
    What are these new sites that will hold money until everyone is satisfied?