Does anyone know why is it on the Badger rings the caps are smaller in diamter then the lower part of the rings? From what I have been told, this is normal and is not a issue when mounting the scope.
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Do not know why. But have zero problems with their rings,have used the 34mm 1" height and ar series in 34mm. Good to go.
Do not know why. But have zero problems with their rings,have used the 34mm 1" height and ar series in 34mm. Good to go.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bacarrat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anyone know why is it on the Badger rings the caps are smaller in diamter then the lower part of the rings? From what I have been told, this is normal and is not a issue when mounting the scope. </div></div>
Because no two scopes are the same, or even the same from the same maker. You make an exactly 30mm ring and you want to put it on a 30mm scope you could run into issues. The "elliptical" type ring better eliminates this issue.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bacarrat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anyone know why is it on the Badger rings the caps are smaller in diamter then the lower part of the rings? From what I have been told, this is normal and is not a issue when mounting the scope. </div></div>
Because no two scopes are the same, or even the same from the same maker. You make an exactly 30mm ring and you want to put it on a 30mm scope you could run into issues. The "elliptical" type ring better eliminates this issue.
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Look at the top of the 34mm rings: it overlaps the bottom of the ring at each side. It's designed that way - as Randy said, the rings function to be oversized by a few thousands. Now measure your scope tube at each ring placement: you might get two different numbers, especially on a NF because the tubes are so fat. Provided the scope measures no more than .004 over standard (30mm or 34mm) at that place in the tube, then no lapping is necessary and no ring marks should appear.
Look at the top of the 34mm rings: it overlaps the bottom of the ring at each side. It's designed that way - as Randy said, the rings function to be oversized by a few thousands. Now measure your scope tube at each ring placement: you might get two different numbers, especially on a NF because the tubes are so fat. Provided the scope measures no more than .004 over standard (30mm or 34mm) at that place in the tube, then no lapping is necessary and no ring marks should appear.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and no ring marks should appear. </div></div> Ring marks also happen from alignment issues, not just tube diameter issues.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and no ring marks should appear. </div></div> Ring marks also happen from alignment issues, not just tube diameter issues.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bacarrat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anyone know why is it on the Badger rings the caps are smaller in diamter then the lower part of the rings? From what I have been told, this is normal and is not a issue when mounting the scope. </div></div>
They're cut above center, so the bottom part of the ring curves up, then straightens out, so the ring isn't a perfect circle. Make sense? Hard to explain without showing... They have a digram on their site I think?
This helps prevent ring marks.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bacarrat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anyone know why is it on the Badger rings the caps are smaller in diamter then the lower part of the rings? From what I have been told, this is normal and is not a issue when mounting the scope. </div></div>
They're cut above center, so the bottom part of the ring curves up, then straightens out, so the ring isn't a perfect circle. Make sense? Hard to explain without showing... They have a digram on their site I think?
This helps prevent ring marks.
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Damn, I never noticed that before either. I have some 34mms in front of me now. This is going to be my 3rd set of badger rings and never even thought about how much thought and engineering went into them. lol
Damn, I never noticed that before either. I have some 34mms in front of me now. This is going to be my 3rd set of badger rings and never even thought about how much thought and engineering went into them. lol
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lizzardking308</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bacarrat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anyone know why is it on the Badger rings the caps are smaller in diamter then the lower part of the rings? From what I have been told, this is normal and is not a issue when mounting the scope. </div></div>
They're cut above center, so the bottom part of the ring curves up, then straightens out, so the ring isn't a perfect circle. Make sense? Hard to explain without showing... They have a digram on their site I think?
This helps prevent ring marks. </div></div>
From what I understand, the caps were cut short that leave more room for the screw to travel and hold the scope tighter, prevent it from running lose. This is something that my last set of TPS rings dont have and I had to look my scope slide even the screws are tighten.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lizzardking308</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bacarrat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anyone know why is it on the Badger rings the caps are smaller in diamter then the lower part of the rings? From what I have been told, this is normal and is not a issue when mounting the scope. </div></div>
They're cut above center, so the bottom part of the ring curves up, then straightens out, so the ring isn't a perfect circle. Make sense? Hard to explain without showing... They have a digram on their site I think?
This helps prevent ring marks. </div></div>
From what I understand, the caps were cut short that leave more room for the screw to travel and hold the scope tighter, prevent it from running lose. This is something that my last set of TPS rings dont have and I had to look my scope slide even the screws are tighten.
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as long as you never remove the rings from that scope and see the major damage underneath.kiddin.
as long as you never remove the rings from that scope and see the major damage underneath.kiddin.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lizzardking308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Marty's a smart dude! </div></div>
+1
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lizzardking308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Marty's a smart dude! </div></div>
+1
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Look at the top of the 34mm rings: it overlaps the bottom of the ring at each side. It's designed that way - as Randy said, the rings function to be oversized by a few thousands. Now measure your scope tube at each ring placement: you might get two different numbers, especially on a NF because the tubes are so fat. Provided the scope measures no more than .004 over standard (30mm or 34mm) at that place in the tube, then no lapping is necessary and no ring marks should appear. </div></div>
No matter what ring or size I use I always lapp them. I want to be sure. I don't want that scope to move no matter what the conditions or what the recoil. I can tell you this, I don't use 150 dollar badger or nightforce rings. I use Burris extreme tactical. Less than half the price and just as good, in fact better than nightforce rings.
http://www.burrisoptics.com/xtrrings.html
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Look at the top of the 34mm rings: it overlaps the bottom of the ring at each side. It's designed that way - as Randy said, the rings function to be oversized by a few thousands. Now measure your scope tube at each ring placement: you might get two different numbers, especially on a NF because the tubes are so fat. Provided the scope measures no more than .004 over standard (30mm or 34mm) at that place in the tube, then no lapping is necessary and no ring marks should appear. </div></div>
No matter what ring or size I use I always lapp them. I want to be sure. I don't want that scope to move no matter what the conditions or what the recoil. I can tell you this, I don't use 150 dollar badger or nightforce rings. I use Burris extreme tactical. Less than half the price and just as good, in fact better than nightforce rings.
http://www.burrisoptics.com/xtrrings.html
