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    I'm seeing and hearing about a Bill going thru Congress now to term all semi autos as assault weapons . I'll bet they grandfather your existing shit then ban all assault weapons . Next they'll individually red flag everyone .
    Edit : We could really use some IIA sanctuary States .
     
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    Says in your link and mine above "introduced 11/2/18." That was 30 days ago, swear I heard mention of it in October. Might have just been a proposal then. Sunday was 12/2/18

    Shit... That's twice I've done that today. My brain is on fucking fire lately. Can't go to sleep early, and can't sleep passed 7AM or thereabouts. So damned excited about the future I forget where we're at on the timeline.

    Thanks for the correction.
     
    Not to be an ass, but seriously it has been out for awhile. If I remember right it was put out 2 days after the election.
    I am not attacking you personally. More of a call to action. In this hobby you have to stay on top of stuff pretty much daily.

    Hobby? I think we're passing out of the recreational pastime phase quite rapidly and into choppy water.
     
    Kind of sounds like the law the MA AG enacted by decree.

    No one went shit house, me included, and it was determined to try it on a national scale now with more shit added.

    Make the test, gauge the reaction, try it on a larger scale.

    Lets see who is on the "Exempt" list as they are being given that class status to buy their loyalty.
     
    Not to be an ass, but seriously it has been out for awhile. If I remember right it was put out 2 days after the election.
    I am not attacking you personally. More of a call to action. In this hobby you have to stay on top of stuff pretty much daily.
    If it had said H.R. 7115 or 3D firearms prohibition act, instead of some vague description I wouldn't have asked. So don't jump down my throat for asking which bill specifically. I don't have time to watch every anti gun bill presented in front of our corrupt government.
     
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    If it had said H.R. 7115 or 3D firearms prohibition act, instead of some vague description I wouldn't have asked. So don't jump down my throat for asking which bill specifically. I don't have time to watch every anti gun bill presented in front of our corrupt government.
    Easy buddy, wasn't meant quite that way. If you are up to speed, then so be it. And I am talking to EVERYONE not just you.
     
    Easy buddy, wasn't meant quite that way. If you are up to speed, then so be it. And I am talking to EVERYONE not just you.

    Why not just reply if you know the details then? I read it the same way he did, critical vs helpful. Fewer keystrokes to type too. I get where you're coming from but at the same time not everyone can keep up with every issue including home, job, kids, marriage and government issues. That's why we as a community we need to be less critical of each other and help bring these to the forefront. Many hands make light work as they say.

    Just my $.02
     
    Why not just reply if you know the details then? I read it the same way he did, critical vs helpful. Fewer keystrokes to type too. I get where you're coming from but at the same time not everyone can keep up with every issue including home, job, kids, marriage and government issues. That's why we as a community we need to be less critical of each other and help bring these to the forefront. Many hands make light work as they say.

    Just my $.02

    Pretty good couple of pennies there, bud. I couldn't have said it better myself.
     
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    I notice LPK's are going out of stock. Funny how people will buy everything up but will not call their representatives.
    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/7115/text
    Calling really helped with the bank "bailouts" and commie care.
    Rallies and marching really helped with all the bans in CA, NY, CO, etc etc.

    Breaking windows/burning shit down/attacking people/harassing people at their house is what the leftists do and they get results. I hope no one does that.

    Peaceful things like lawsuits and voting works about 10% of the time. SAF gets a lot of money from me.

    .gov tyrants are like the Muslim terrorists they only understand one thing.

    Talk is cheap.

    Letting women and non property owners vote was the downfall of this country.


    At least people are starting to pay attention and getting angry
    https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/this-aint-over-with.6914502/

    Need a convoy of about 250000 cars/SUVs filled with lawfully armed Americans to descend on that centralized hive of evil/tyranny
     
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    Calling really helped with the bank "bailouts" and commie care.
    Rallies and marching really helped with all the bans in CA, NY, CO, etc etc.

    Breaking windows/burning shit down/attacking people/harassing people at their house is what the leftists do and they get results. I hope no one does that.

    Peaceful things like lawsuits and voting works about 10% of the time. SAF gets a lot of money from me.

    .gov tyrants are like the Muslim terrorists they only understand one thing.

    Talk is cheap.

    Letting women and non property owners vote was the downfall of this country.


    At least people are starting to pay attention and getting angry
    https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/this-aint-over-with.6914502/

    Need a convoy of about 250000 cars/SUVs filled with lawfully armed Americans to descend on that centralized hive of evil/tyranny
    Those pussies will be in their snowflake bunkers faster than AJ can say, “Buy more ammo.”
     
    Why not just reply if you know the details then? I read it the same way he did, critical vs helpful. Fewer keystrokes to type too. I get where you're coming from but at the same time not everyone can keep up with every issue including home, job, kids, marriage and government issues. That's why we as a community we need to be less critical of each other and help bring these to the forefront. Many hands make light work as they say.

    Just my $.02
    I saw this about 1 min after you posted. I thought to ponder while working on how to give you my best answer (and maybe this isn't it, but I will try). First we are a community, and like it or not I fear we are all we have got.
    I know this may seem hard to believe but I stand by what I said in both posts, in that I 100% meant nothing personal by what i posted. But I will 100% agree the words used were critical.
    And for me they probably needed to be, before I elaborate on that let me just say. My wife tells me many times a week "when you start a sentence with no offense, or I don't mean to be rude you are in fact offending and/or being rude".
    She is not wrong per-se, but it dumbfounds ME (it is a issue with ME) that it is that way. Some what how some people get Sarcasm and some people don't. For me I am fairly literal, so when I say "no offense" or "not to be an ass" I truly mean exactly that.

    If you or anyone noticed after my 1st post I then quickly posted 2 links to help anyone come up to speed.
    After some reflection I feel the words were critical because I am A: tired as fuck of the attacks on the 2nd, it is the bastard child who constantly gets berated just for existing.
    B: Because I had an flash of frustration, as I have many "friends" who own guns but are not involved. I constantly keep them informed of shit like this and barely get as much as a shoulder shrug.

    I really need to find new friends, but I have known them for 20 years and other than the gun issue they are good people. They don't hate guns and in fact all own many, they just don't really give two shits. So I come here to find like minded people, the problem is we are scattered across the country and the world.

    I live, eat , and breath the 2nd, it has cost me time with my wife and daughter. It also means I don't get invited to many family or friend functions as I can bring the subject up in any circumstance no matter how awkward it might seem.

    I thought about not responding and letting it go, but as a member of the community I felt I should address it.
     
    @2ndamendfan - It'd make sense that anyone coming to a long range shooting board would be deeply vested in the 2A and follow shit just like you and I do, but unfortunately that's not the case.

    May just be a difference between our personalities. I serve up information to thousands of people as a hobby. Someone asks a question, I'll answer if I can. No hard feelings if someone slept through one of the hundreds of asinine things that happen on a daily basis. I do it myself, on occasion. We're not exactly public servants on the taxpayer's dime here, y'know... Degrees of attention and all that :LOL:
     
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    If you or anyone noticed after my 1st post I then quickly posted 2 links to help anyone come up to speed.
    After some reflection I feel the words were critical because I am A: tired as fuck of the attacks on the 2nd, it is the bastard child who constantly gets berated just for existing.
    B: Because I had an flash of frustration, as I have many "friends" who own guns but are not involved. I constantly keep them informed of shit like this and barely get as much as a shoulder shrug.

    Great reply and these stuck out as I can relate to them myself.

    1. I did notice that as I am sure others did too. Much like you my point still stands, it is easier and far less critical to others (which translates into impacting the human condition) to help others "fish" instead of putting them on the defensive.
    2. see #1, you cannot force someone to have the same passion and conviction so leading them helps.

    Now with that said, I do not even begin to say or feel I have a firm grasp on all things politics, and frankly I do not think any one person can say they do when it comes to the attack on the 2A because of the entire list of garbage that gets stuffed into these bills in hopes that just 1 of them sticks. So to peel them back, as i said before, I do not personally have the time to learn them straight from every document for myself to be educated about them. So instead I lean on those I trust in the industry to boil them down so I know where to focus my research and efforts. That is coming from someone that cares but not as deeply as you obviously because I do not spend my free time away reading every page of every bill that is published. Now think about the guy/gal that this is an actual hobby who just enjoys to hear things go boom... ya, I can easily draw the line between your frustrations and those people because I am in the middle of the two of you.

    food for thought.
     
    In the words of Lieutenant Commander Dan Crenshaw, “I try very hard not to offend, I try even harder not to be offended” should apply. We are all on the same side though, even if some personalities may not jive with all of us.

    I get the frustration & passion. Outside of just a few people around here locally,you guys are the only ones that I can relate to in terms of 2A and the constitution.
     
    2ndamendfan, I admit I also have a short fuse. I may have took your response a bit literal. I too am tired of the attacks on our hobby, and on freedom in general. I try to stay up to date on all things 2nd Amendment related. I just didn't initially know which bill was introduced as there are so many. That's not even including anti gun legislation attached to a bill that has nothing to do with guns.
     
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