Suppressors Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

2

2500yards

Sergeant
Full Member
Minuteman
Aug 22, 2009
129
0
46
Maryland
#1
I was just speaking with a guy who was telling me about some type of thing that goes over the bolt/action of the gun and really silences the sound the bolt makes. He was telling me his good friend told him they used this, who is a special ops.

I have no clue what it is, but my AR bolt/action makes a heck of alot of noise. I would love to silence that somehow. Then shooting sub sonics with the suppressor would be pretty wild.
 
#5
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Captain Moroni</div><div class="ubbcode-body">if someone starts telling a story about thier buddy who is special forces put your fingers in your ears and walk away</div></div>

Well, my best friend's cousin's brother's minister's wife's nephew was SPECIAL FORCES for an unnameable "letter group" that isn't even spoken about unless on missions and only by those on THAT mission. He told my trash man's boyfriend's pimp's 4th removed cousin's 3 year old about these LASER GUNS and small TACTICAL NUKES that would completely blow up their enemies, both foreign and domestic that were made out of lipsticck, paperclips, and the liner from Haines underwear. The only problem is he MUST'VE been deployed or something because I can't get ahold of him to get my copy of the recipe!
 
#9
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

Well, not everyone makes up lies where I live. sorry, but I trust this guy. Wether or not this is actually a real thing or not, I am not sure. That is why I want to ask you guys if you have heard of such a thing. He described it as something what would cover the bolt to muffle it as well as catch the brass like a brass catcher. I just havnt seen this product. If you know what it is, please tell me.
 
#11
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BachelorJack</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have one.

Price is $500. </div></div>



Send me your address and mark it sold.
 
#12
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

!!!<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mo_Zam_Beek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BachelorJack</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have one.

Price is $500. </div></div>



Send me your address and mark it sold.</div></div>

You both would be killed if the Spec Ops guys found out about your deal
 
#15
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

I've seen recoil buffers for bolts in a few .22lr actions, but never have I seen one for the AR system. The noise really comes from the bolt stripping a round out of the mag then closing and locking up the lugs, not so much from the 'blowback phase'. The recoil buffers on the .22lr bolts are used to soften the impact of the bolt while fully retracting to the rear, not to reduce the noise of the action. The reduction in noise is a side-benefit, but in practicality is still negated by the muzzle blast, unless you are running suppressed..
 
#16
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

I have seen these:
m1ainst.jpg


I know they are available for a slew of guns, but they are not for suppression.
 
#19
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

The original poster is looking for some made up nonsense. Not a shock buff.

Wannabe dip-shits make up crap to seem cool. The more impossible the better. Why anyone would want to seem cool to some random guy at the the public range escapes my comprehension.

Real deal operators avoid public ranges even in their off time. They don't talk to others. It's not about being cool to them. Operational nuances are not discussed outside of work circles. It's referred to as OPSEC.

A theme if you will. Guys who specialize in the killing of men, are concerned with killing efficiently and as fast as possible. Anything that might break or cause a malfunction of a weapon system is avoided.

Some dumb contraption that blocks the ejection port would fall into that category. If you want the bolt cycle to be quieter, work that damn knob slowly and with control.

I thought all this would be obvious here. I even thought my original post would clear this up. Judging from the emails I have been getting about having one of these made up contraptions in my possession, I see I wasn't crystal clear.

There is no such thing. This is a goose chase.....
 
#20
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 2500yards</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well, not everyone makes up lies where I live. sorry, but I trust this guy. Wether or not this is actually a real thing or not, I am not sure. That is why I want to ask you guys if you have heard of such a thing. He described it as something what would cover the bolt to muffle it as well as catch the brass like a brass catcher. I just havnt seen this product. If you know what it is, please tell me. </div></div>Give it up, Brother, it's just not true.

Lets not say that he lied to you, let's just say he is mistaken, or, possibly was lied to himself and passed it along innocently, or, was told such nonsense by someone else who was mistaken.

Covering the ejection port will do nothing for bolt noise, which emanates for the entire upper receiver. It's not a sealed unit, and gas will escape in any number of directions.
 
#21
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

I thought everyone knew we were making jokes too, but I guess not.

Lastly, if anyone has played the "telephone" game as a kid they should know how these stories start.
 
#23
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BachelorJack</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Judging from the emails I have been getting about having one of these made up contraptions in my possession, I see I wasn't crystal clear.
</div></div>

LOL! That's hilarious.

For those that truely need to operate a suppressed rifle silently, you need one of these:

http://www.dlsports.com/mr700.html

What people don't realize is that most of the action noise comes from the follower slamming around inside the magazine area. This rifle eliminates that problem, in addition to these additional benefits:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Detachable and internal box magazines on the M700 have been a repeated source of reliability trouble for the M700. The D&L aluminum stock eliminates this problem by converting the standard M700 to the shoot-one load-one MR-700 system of operation. The simpicity of doing the same thing every time has proven more effective than trying to load single rounds off the top of an unstable magazine follower. It is certainly much quicker than operating with a magazine-fed rifle that is plagued with the bolt over base malfunction, or stoppages caused by nose diving cartridges. The D&L aluminum stock holds cartridges near the ejection port for rapid follow-up shot capability. Well practiced shooters have outperformed semi auto shooters in rapid precision fire with this system.</div></div>


Granted, it's a little pricy at $3995, but you have to pay if you want the best.
 
#25
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Slimguns</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I thought he was talking AR type.

</div></div>

It'll never work in an AR, there's no way to keep the follower from slamming back and forth.
 
#27
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

Apparently it has a few of you upset that I would inquire about this product I was described. I guess I didnt realize the snipershide forums are only for inquiring about products you have used or your expanded wealth of knowledge you have stored in your head.
 
#28
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 2500yards</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Apparently it has a few of you upset that I would inquire about this product I was described. I guess I didnt realize the snipershide forums are only for inquiring about products you have used or your expanded wealth of knowledge you have stored in your head. </div></div>

Methinks you don't know who posters here are in real life. Nor what they do for a living. Or the social circles they run.

We tried to help you. That's the real thing to walk away with here.
 
#29
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 2500yards</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Apparently it has a few of you upset that I would inquire about this product I was described. I guess I didnt realize the snipershide forums are only for inquiring about products you have used or your expanded wealth of knowledge you have stored in your head. </div></div>
I really doubt anyone is "upset". We were trying to explain that these things you've heard of from a friend of a friend probably don't exist. As usual it was done in a special humor.

There is WAAAAAY too much knowledge here to get all butt hurt and drop out. Take it for what it is but know most if not all intentions were good.
 
#30
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

BachelorJack, Im really not sure why you are such a jackass, but you are. Im sorry my post offended you so much. To clarify things, I wasnt at some public range talking to someone. My friend whom as well as myself are business owners. We have known eachother for many years. His bud who he see's once in a while since he is active, is the one who told him about this. I am not one to just make things up nor is he to be "cool" as you say.

Now the question here is, Would this guy that told my friend this, make up things? possibly. I have no way nor would my friend be able to confirm this, other than to post this question in which you deem worthy of putting me down for.

I have learned my lesson about this forum. As it seems like most forums. Try to ask simple stuff, otherwise some jackass like you will jump on me to be the "cool" guy.
 
#31
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

their is one mod that was done in world war 2 to a silenced bolt action rifle they cut away part of the bolt handle and inserted bakalite to stop the smacking of metal when the bolt was closed. the rifle was a DeLisle carbine it was a 303 SMLE action that the bolt was shortened and the barrel fitted back into the action to shorten the bolt travel then they were silenced in 45ACP and used modified 1911 mags. the rifles were used by special forces realy close to Japamnese used roads in sections and they would wait until a truck would drive past and every one would try to take one person from the back of of the truck and in a convoy they would all try to nail one person in every truck they say it realy ruined the moral of the japs as they did not know what happened. this is the only rifle i know of designed to be used in battle that had any form of part modified on the bolt to stop the noise of cycling reduced in use whild silenced and it worked realy well byt in a semi auto tell your mate he is full of it. unless you are using sompthing like a pistol cartrige and blow back auto or a 300 whisper type cartrige the semi auto's dont cycle as the gas perssures are not correct so they are a waste of time if you want to use sub loads in a 223 or 308 a bolt rifle is a better option.

Hope this helps but if it looks like a brass catcher and catches brass like a brass catcher it is probably a brass catcher.

 
#33
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 2500yards</div><div class="ubbcode-body">BachelorJack, Im really not sure why you are such a jackass, but you are. </div></div>

He just is. But, looking back at what he wrote in this thread, I don't see where he was in this case, really. He is brutally honest and has an odd sense of humor. He tried to make a joke, after you'd already been told the friend's friend had probably made it up. Apparently a number of people didn't get the joke, so he clarified that there was no such thing.

Before you get upset, realize that many of us personally know each other- or might as well in some cases, since we've 'known' each other online for a long time. We joke around together, it's nothing personal. Hang around, and you'll get the joke as well.

BTW, on all things suppressor related, Bachelor Jack would be a good go-to guy, he just might know a thing or two.
 
#34
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

I'm going and grab a 700 from the other room and play with it while I eat dinner and watch "the biggest loser". I'm going to try to figure out where all this noise comes from. I think it all comes from bolt control, or lack there of.

I've got something cool for AR15's, but you're talking about bolt guns.

I've seen some modded ruger 10/22's but again you're talking about bolt guns.

The problem is you're going off of something someone told someone else. If this guy is a real deal paid professional, you might be amazed about how little some of those guys know about their gear. I know some that only know they "shoot people with the green tipped stuff". If you get a chance to tour some of these Group's Arms Lockers and dig in stuff you might be amazed at the stuff you will find. Some of it works, some of it never worked and some of it was thrown together by someone bored with stuff they could get during lunch. None of this means anything from an operational standpoint.

Let me personally tell you, there is ZERO reason to make the operation of the bolt in a bolt action quieter through some device. Use proper lube and bolt control.

From an operational standpoint, why would someone want to use this device? What makes it's risks of potential malfunctions worth it?
 
#35
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

I've got a brass deflector for an AR15 and a Brass catcher. Those are designed for whirlybirds and certain vehicle use. Like Ford Explorers and other civilian vehicles, armored or otherwise.

Both of those don't really change the noise level. They just seem quieter to the shooter. To a meter they don't do anything to the sound level. One even makes it louder. They are mainly used in whirlybirds to keep the ejecting brass from entering the intakes. It has nothing to do with making the bolt quieter.

I just don't think anyone really understands the wording of your question. I don't.

I can take a picture if you want. They both have their downsides to include destroying/damaging brass.
 
#37
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

If you want an AR to be really quiet you're gonna have to cut the gas system off and cycle manually. If you don't want to cycle manually then it won't be as quiet.

Can't really have it both ways.
 
#38
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

Its bad enough to hear stories second hand but third hand is even better especiallly when they are SF..

I love how if people dont get the answer they want or are told they are wrong that instantly everyone is a dick. Or that there is a conspiracy to keep them from their piece of unobtanium.

Maybe we should all be nice and go to counseling. Ahh probably not.. Ive been there and it doesnt work.. I always end up there again...lol
 
#39
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

2500yards, sorry to see you offended, but for the most part, the guys are trying to enlighten you.

I think that everyone realizes you're not stupid, and that your friend is not stupid, but at the same time, you're only about 400th person to come in here asking about special equipment that is not in existence, but is somehow connected to the SF/SpecOps/SEAL community and they heard about through a friend's friend's buddy, who was the real deal, or knew someone who was the real deal.

Well, I actually know a few real deal guys and they enjoy a good joke as much as anybody. The more knowledgeable the victim, the more satisfying the prank.

The item you look for doesn't work. A good working knowledge of the firearms in question would lead to that same conclusion, that the equipment would not work and therefore is not in existence.

A bolt gun is as quiet as it gets, and careful manipulation after the shot is about the best anyone can do.

An AR-15, unless the bolt is stopped by a lack of gas, is going to make a shitload of noise that doesn't just come from an ejection port. Gas is released inside the upper receiver and pops out in a half-dozen places, the bolt slaps back and forth, the buffer bounces around in the tube...ad nauseum. Even manually manipulating an AR-15 bolt is pretty noisy compared to a regular bolt gun. Covering the ejection port simply will not address the problem to any significant extent.

Again, perhaps your friend's source was mistaken. One shooter having fun at another shooter's expense is not unheard of and I'd bet we've all been victims at one time or another. Look around here for the "bolt gas" thread, or research Shankster.

I would suggest not being offended that no one can buy into this concept and even might poke a little fun, and keep in mind that the collective knowledge here is bigger than both of us.

For those confused about the rifle action type, the OP clearly specifies <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #990000">both</span></span>:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 2500yards</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was just speaking with a guy who was telling me about some type of thing that goes over the bolt/action of the gun and really silences the sound the bolt makes. He was telling me his good friend told him they used this, who is a special ops.

I have no clue what it is, but <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #990000">my AR bolt/action</span></span> makes a heck of alot of noise. I would love to silence that somehow. Then shooting sub sonics with the suppressor would be pretty wild.

</div></div>
 
#41
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shankster</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
motivatorBoltSil.jpg
</div></div>

LMFAO!!!

Shankster pulls another point-2500yards zero
 
#42
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 2500yards</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Apparently it has a few of you upset that I would inquire about this product I was described. I guess I didnt realize the snipershide forums are only for inquiring about products you have used or your expanded wealth of knowledge you have stored in your head. </div></div>

Big words from a guy that believes there is a "bolt silencing tool" and I think your coming up with these BS posts to get the ol post count up.

If you plan on going thru life or the shooting community taking mall ninja's seriously then your gonna be facing a lot of disappointment in life.
 
#43
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

forums and their "cool" guys... kyshooter338, post count? wow. you got it. how did you know? My goal is to have the most posts. ha.. get a life buddy. thats the last thing I care about in life. Am I a threat to your 1637 posts?

I get it totally. Im new here. I ask something and everyone attacks. so are you the "cool" guy or the follower that wants to be cool. This place is a joke and a waste of my time.

I have asked questions on things, and to be honest, 75% of the people responding dont know a damn thing.

Thanks to the few on here that were helpful. to the rest, get a life and learn how to be a real man and not a follower.


For all those that think I have been just posting bogus stuff, here is the topics I posted in and my reasoning. not sure why I should even bother, but here it is. take it for what its worth.


What is the longest known .22LR shots?
- I was shooing out to 600 yards. wanted to know what others have done.

600 yards 22LR pictures
- Wanted to share what I was doing.

Whats the best .338 Suppressor?
- Just purchased a barrett98, but at the time was looking to buy and wanted to know about which suppressor is best.

problem solved: Suppressor on a bull barrel????
- Looking for a new barrel for my AR, but wanted to know how to get my suppressor on it. Contacted a company that said they could make the barrel the correct size.

Supressor accuracy for long range?
- One of the barrel manufactures I called, thought it was a joke that I would use a suppressor to shoot long range. Wanted to know.

Which of these .223/5.56 ammo is most
- Looking for good factory ammo. wanted some input.

Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?
- You see it.

Does barrel length affect fps? Which length?
- Something I wanted to know, based on my new barrel for my AR. Was worried longer would hurt it. needed some input.
 
#44
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

Nice response. If you cant take some hazing then you certainly wont fit in here. We all got it at some point. If we hurt your little feelins' we apologize. Your asking a question that is mechanically impossible. how would you quiet a moving object with a buffer behind it thats full of weights? Metal on metal friction is not going to be quiet. And if your trying to get a 223 rifle as silent as possible, then go bolt action rifle. An AR's action opens up and therefore will NEVER be that quiet. 75% of the people on here dont know what their talking about huh? Trust me, most of the guys on here could forget most of what they know and still be more enlightened then you will ever be. grow up.

Next time before you start typing think about a few things. the first is "is this question legit or am I going to sound like a real ass? Two, do some research on google and on this site. And three, dont come off to well established members of a forum as a jerk because believe me they will let you have it.

I dont care about post count Im just pointing it out because seems like your doing a lot of flapping about nothing in particular, thats usually the sign for people trying to get to 51 to sell their crap.

Use some common sense....
 
#47
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

Everyone takes this online stuff way too serious, like we're all standing around in an actual community. Silly soft hearted fellows.

Just take the info for what it is, verify it, and then apply it. No need for all this whining

I do have to add that if you (2500yard guy/girl/person) weren't so quick to start your defensive tactics you'd soon found your answer w/ less shit being dispensed. Also, if you were really part of the top 25% (better than the "75% of the people responding [that] dont know a damn thing") you wouldn't be asking questions that I know the answer to as I am probably in the lower 40% here. So either you overestimate yourself or you underestimate others. Now, for either of those actions I must refer to you as a fool and or immature.
 
#49
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

you know. I should of been more clear. I wasnt reffering to 75% of the people on the entire forum not knowing anything. I was refferring to the fact that 75% of the responses to posts are worthless. example. There are many posts that go something like this.

-------
Q.: what is the best knife?
-------

*******
25% A: a sharp knife

25% A: I had a knife, it was black. get a black one.

Useful and respectful response. : A: I really like my Spyderco Woodlander Hunting Knife. It is a collaborative version of one of the Jerry Hossom best known designs. The hunting knife features a full-bellied cutting edges with upswept tip and comfortably rounded spine. The blade is flat ground European N690Co steel which carries a reputation for cutting performance and edge retention. They are like $100 or so.

25% A: I had a knife once. When I was 12.
*****


and on and on..


so there you go. 75% is bs. thats how I see alot of topics on here. You know, right now I just dont have anything to do, and really could care less what you think of me. You guys say I shouldnt be defensive in response. screw that. Im not nor will I ever just sit back and take things up the ass. you guys want to be girls about things, go right ahead. not me.

Sure make a sarcastic remark about me shooting my .22LR. Wow, I like to shoot .22's. I also like to shoot my 9, my 45, my 410, my 20, my 12, my 223, my 270, my 308, and my new 338 I just bought I cant wait to get out and play with. Want to make fun of that too just to be a dick? Is shooting just for those that shoot .50 cals?

If you read this post from the begining, you will notice this. I am not stating there is this new product out there. I was asking where/what it is. You guys tell me to research on the internet first. Well, FK. I did that. and nothing. So I ask you guys and bam. Attacks on me and my friend. I just want to be clear here. All the BS remarks are made by the people that need to grow up. not me.

I dont know everything and I am not full of myself. Not sure where that came from. Asking a question should of ruled that out.

enjoy your day. 2500yards.
smile.gif
 
#50
Re: Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 2500yards</div><div class="ubbcode-body">forums and their "cool" guys... kyshooter338, post count? wow. you got it. how did you know? My goal is to have the most posts. ha.. get a life buddy. thats the last thing I care about in life. Am I a threat to your 1637 posts?

I get it totally. Im new here. I ask something and everyone attacks. so are you the "cool" guy or the follower that wants to be cool. This place is a joke and a waste of my time.

I have asked questions on things, and to be honest, 75% of the people responding dont know a damn thing.

Thanks to the few on here that were helpful. to the rest, get a life and learn how to be a real man and not a follower.


For all those that think I have been just posting bogus stuff, here is the topics I posted in and my reasoning. not sure why I should even bother, but here it is. take it for what its worth.


What is the longest known .22LR shots?
- I was shooing out to 600 yards. wanted to know what others have done.

600 yards 22LR pictures
- Wanted to share what I was doing.

Whats the best .338 Suppressor?
- Just purchased a barrett98, but at the time was looking to buy and wanted to know about which suppressor is best.

problem solved: Suppressor on a bull barrel????
- Looking for a new barrel for my AR, but wanted to know how to get my suppressor on it. Contacted a company that said they could make the barrel the correct size.

<span style="color: #FF0000">Supressor accuracy for long range?
- One of the barrel manufactures I called, thought it was a joke that I would use a suppressor to shoot long range. Wanted to know.
</span>
Which of these .223/5.56 ammo is most
- Looking for good factory ammo. wanted some input.

Bolt silencer? Where/What are they?
- You see it.

Does barrel length affect fps? Which length?
- Something I wanted to know, based on my new barrel for my AR. Was worried longer would hurt it. needed some input. </div></div>

Please tell me who said that.... I want to call and talk to them. I have seen people shoot the 408CT out to 2500 yards suppressed with NO issues.

Got a link for the 600 yard 22lr shots? Im intrigued..
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

W
Match barrel . . . Really?
Replies
96
Views
3K
RETE8
RETE8
T
Getting a 1k class gun built
Replies
10
Views
255
trident512789
T
M
Firearms Christensen Arms 6.5 CR Barreled action 26" heavy barrel
Replies
0
Views
99
Millron
M
W
357 Lever Action with Threaded Barrel Options?
Replies
13
Views
2K
Yondering
Y
viking78
I AM F...D
Replies
49
Views
2K
MO Fugga
MO Fugga
Top Bottom
Back
Home
Forums
Merch
Alerts