Gunsmithing Broken Surgeon M-16 style extractor

[zink14]

I Just had a Extractor break in a brand new surgeon action (6) rounds fired....using all 6 rounds of lapua and loading a Prime ammo round...Surgeon stated that would send a new one, but ask for payment info, I was really not happy with that, but it spawned two other questions:

1) the break was a straight clean shear, honestly looks like a material defect, but what if anything else could cause that?
2) are M16 style extractors from other manufactures compatible? i.e. badger

thanks

Zink

 

[Hoser]

That sucks. Things sure haven't changed at Surgeon. I have been waiting for 3+ years for a 223 bolt for my 591 action.

 

[ugsly308]

I called about a year ago for a replacement firing pin that was my fault it broke. They wouldnt accept payment and had a new one to me within a week.

 

[Edds]

That sucks. Things sure haven't changed at Surgeon. I have been waiting for 3+ years for a 223 bolt for my 591 action.

I stopped by Surgeon earlier this year and they had boxes of 223 bolts on the shelf.

 

[DAVETOOLEY]

I Just had a Extractor break in a brand new surgeon action (6) rounds fired....using all 6 rounds of lapua and loading a Prime ammo round...Surgeon stated that would send a new one, but ask for payment info, I was really not happy with that, but it spawned two other questions:

1) the break was a straight clean shear, honestly looks like a material defect, but what if anything else could cause that?
2) are M16 style extractors from other manufactures compatible? i.e. badger

thanks

Zink

Did you have any resistance when closing the bolt? At the point where the extractor clicks over the rim on rotation of the bolt.
The reason I ask is if there isn't enough clearance on the OD of the bolt nose the extractor gets slammed in the most rear facing portion of the barrel. Ask me how many times I've done that and seen that?

 

[zink14]

Did you have any resistance when closing the bolt? At the point where the extractor clicks over the rim on rotation of the bolt.
The reason I ask is if there isn't enough clearance on the OD of the bolt nose the extractor gets slammed in the most rear facing portion of the barrel. Ask me how many times I've done that and seen that?

yeah, that is almost exactly what happened, it felt like the round was seated too far out but the bolt jammed, I tapped it a bit but not hard, and put it away, got home wiggled it and the extractor fell tip fell out

 

[zink14]

yeah, that is almost exactly what happened, it felt like the round was seated too far out but the bolt jammed, I tapped it a bit but not hard, and put it away, got home wiggled it and the extractor fell tip fell out

what is the fix, if you don't mind me asking?

 

[DAVETOOLEY]

Remove the barrel and increase the diameter of the counterbore.

 

[zink14]

ugggg......

 

[zink14]

Remove the barrel and increase the diameter of the counterbore.

do other m16 style adaptors fit the surgeon i.e. Badger or PTG?

 

[DAVETOOLEY]

I don't know the answer to that.

 

[Easy_E]

Who was the rifle builder ?