CCI Standard Velocity ammo test (long post)

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So there I was again, ready to make a bulk purchase of ammo. As much as I prefer Wolf Match Target and Extra, if you shoot alot, the price of ammo adds up quickly. I found a decent shooting ammo in Aguila Match Rifle (black box), but also had a few issues with a few bricks that left a bad taste in my mouth. I've never put CCI Standard Velocity to a true test and since my local Dick's sporting goods had plenty in stock, I thought I'd give them a go as a possible lower cost paper target practice / silhouette ammo and not having to deal with shipping and handling from a catalog store sounded good.

The CCI SV (Standard Velocity) was priced at $24.99 or $.05 a round which was attractive to me. The ammo had a light to medium waxey lubed coating (not of a greasy type). Compared to other Match or Standard Velocity ammos I had on hand, it appeared to me that the CCI SV had a longer and sleeker nose to it. I broke out 200 rounds and did some weight and rim thickness sorting. There were 4 weight lots and 4 rim thickness lots(technically 4 rim thickness lots, with one lot containing only 1 round, so out of 200 rounds, there were 199 broken into three rim ticknesses). I then shot the weight sorted lots through a chrony to get the most consistant weight lot. NOTE: I didn't run the Rim thickness lots through the chrony. I've found that at distances past 50 yards, the weight sort tends to be more consistant.

The chrony was set out 10 ft from the muzzle, shot through a 20" 1 in 16 twist heavy barreled Savage MKII, laminated free floated stock, 20 moa base and 6-24X optic (set on 14x), Harris bipod and rear bag from a bench. 5 rounds of each weight lot was shot. Air temp was 72 deg F, and humidity was 65%. The barrel was dry swabbed clean before each weight lot switch. 1" circles used at 50 yards, 1.5" at 100 yards.

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">Weight sort grains / quantity / FPS</span></span>
RT / quantity (rim thickness for each weight lot listed / quantity)

51.1..../....1..../....1086
RT .039 / 1

50.9..../...105.../....1026 avg 27 dev. (1015 lowest, 1042 highest)
RT .037 / 7, .038 / 53, .039 / 49, .040 / 1.

50.8..../...77..../....1021 avg 28 dev. (1006 lowest, 1034 highest)
RT .037 / 4, .038 / 44, .039 / 29

50.6..../...17..../....1018 avg 45 dev. (991 lowest, 1036 highest)
RT .037 / 2, .038 / 103, .039 / 9

Out of 200 rounds total rim thicknesses were: .037 / 13, .038 / 103, .039 / 83, .040 / 1.

As the highest number of rounds weight sorted was 50.9 and the highest number of rim thickness (.038) were also found in the 50.9 weight lot, I can only assume this is the round that CCI intended to make across the board, or at least on average, what CCI produces most in their SV ammo.

Avg. FPS of all rounds (<span style="font-style: italic">not including the 1 51.1</span>) was 1022 with a 51 dev. 991 FPS was the lowest (50.6), and 1042 FPS was the highest (50.9). A 1086 FPS was recorded in the 1 round 51.1 weight lot, but again was excluded as it was only 1 in 200 rounds that this happened. This at least goes to show again that usually the higher the weight lot, the higher the FPS.

Compared to 3 other ammos on hand and in present environmental conditions, Wolf MT = 1005 FPS / 20 dev., Aguila Super Std Vel. = 1096 FPS / 42 dev., Agulia Golden Eagle Match Rifle = 1092 FPS / 25 dev.

<span style="font-weight: bold">NOTES: for FPS above and 50 + 100 yard grouping tests below</span>

<span style="text-decoration: underline">Residue</span> - somewhat uniform balls in barrel, mostly toward the chamber.
<span style="text-decoration: underline">Smell</span> - no distinct smell (such as the Eley primed smell of the other three ammos)
<span style="text-decoration: underline">Failure To Extract</span>(FTE) - none, all 200 rounds extracted perfectly.
<span style="text-decoration: underline">Failure To Fire </span>(FTF) - none, all 200 rounds extracted perfectly.
<span style="text-decoration: underline">Point Of Impact </span>(POI) compared to others - Similiar point of impact to Wolf MT and Aguila GE Match Rifle at 50 and 100 yards, Aguila Super Std Vel had an extremely different POI.

Unfortunately, my first day out after running the ammo through the chrony, the wind picked up substaintially. Too windy and variable for any objective groups. But then I thought which one of these would hold the wind better? So at 50 yards, with the wind varying from 5 to 14 MPH changing from the 2:00 to 4:00 position:

Aguila Super SV = .75"
Wolf MT = 1"
CCI SV = 1.25"
Aguila Match Rifle 1.75"

I only fired when a sustained wind of 10 MPH was achieved at the firing station. Aguila SV was far superior in the wind.

A week later, dead calm conditions made the range call my name, and the name of the CCI SV test. Same equipment was used as stated above, again 72 deg F, but it was 47% humidity, 0 wind, sunny. Barrel dry swabbed before each group was shot. 30 seconds between each shot. As a "true" objective test, I loaded and shot 1 50.9, 1 50.8, 1 50.6, 1 50.8, and 1 more 50.9 of each weight lot into the magazine to ensure a good cross section / mix of weight lots as if plucked out of the box and not sorting them, yet making sure there is a good mix.

Groups were measured outside to outside, and then rated as I have before when comparing ammos:
MG = major grp (excluding flyers)
EG = ext. grp (including flyers)
Flyers and Flyer Ratio = # of flyers per rnds. shot.

As some / most ammos shoot differently in "clean barrels" and "dirty barrels", I did clean and dirty barrel groups.
I came up with rating system a few years ago, and to help compare one ammo to others. The following terminology and formulas seem to work: Clean Barrel Rating "CBR"=MG+EG+# of flyers, then divided by 3. Dirty Barrel Rating (10 shots) "DBR"= MG+EG+flyers divided by 3, Consistency Rating "CR"= MG+EG+flyers of CBR and DBR divided by 6, Value Rating "VR" (bang for the $) adds price per round divided by 7, and overall rating "OAR"=CBR+DBR+CR+VR divided by 4. Also came up with a multi yard rating, avg. performance at both distances. The lower the number, the better rating WHEN COMPARING TO OTHER AMMOS.

Confusing? Bear with me.

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FF0000">50 yards</span></span>

<span style="text-decoration: underline">CLEAN BARREL</span>
MG: .5"----EG: 1"----- 2 FLYERS, FR: 2/5----CBR: 1.166
<span style="text-decoration: underline">DIRTY BARREL </span>
MG: .75"---EG: 1.25"---- 3 FLYERS, FR: 3/10----DBR: 1.666

This shows that CCI SV performs better in a cleaner barrel than dirty at 50 yards, but even with 3 flyers (only a .25" off the main group), still holds a 1.25" group in a dirty one. you can expect an average group under 1.25" or less with a clean or dirty barrel, including flyers.

<span style="text-decoration: underline">FLYER RATIO</span> (FR = amount of visible flyers per the 15 rounds shot) 5/15

<span style="text-decoration: underline">CONSISTANCY RATING</span> (CR = consistancy of the ammo with dirty and clean barrels) 1.416

<span style="text-decoration: underline">VALUE RATING</span> (VR = value of the performance given for price paid / bang for the buck) 1.221

<span style="text-decoration: underline">OVERALL RATING</span> (OAR = takes into account clean, dirty barrels, consistancy, and value ratings dived by 4) 1.367


<span style="color: #FF0000"><span style="font-weight: bold">100 yards</span></span>

<span style="text-decoration: underline">CLEAN BARREL</span>
MG: 1"---- EG: 2.5"---- 1 FLYER FR: 1/5----CBR: 1.5
<span style="text-decoration: underline">DIRTY BARREL</span>
MG: 1.5"---- EG: 2" ---- 1 FLYER FR 1/10----DBR: 1.5

This shows that at 100 yards, the ammo is pretty much a dead heat using a clean barrel or dirty, and a low amount of flyers. You can expect an average group of 2.25" or less, not many fliers. But the flyer you'll get will can be expected to kill your group by .75".

<span style="text-decoration: underline">FLYER RATIO</span> (FR = amount of visible flyers per the 15 rounds shot) 2/15

<span style="text-decoration: underline">CONSISTANCY RATING</span> (CR = consistancy of the ammo with dirty and clean barrels) 1.5

<span style="text-decoration: underline">VALUE RATING</span> (VR = value of the performance given for price paid / bang for the buck) 1.293

<span style="text-decoration: underline">OVERALL RATING</span> (OAR = takes into account clean, dirty barrels, consistancy, and value ratings dived by 4) 1.448

<span style="color: #FF0000"><span style="font-weight: bold">MULTI YARD RATING</span></span>

MULTI YARD RATING (MYR) - Rates ammo on best avg. performance at 50 and 100 yards using data and results taken. MYR/CBR = CBR of 50+100 divided by 2, MYR/DBR = DBR of 50+100 divided by 2, MYR/CR = CR of 50+100 divided by 2, MYR/VR = VR of 50+100 divided by 2, MYR/OAR = THE MYR'S CBR+DBR+CR+VR divided by 4. Flyer Ratios are also for both ranges, 30 rds total each brand. Also took avg. grps. from 50+100 divided by 2 to give an average group between both ranges. The MYR would be extremely valuable for a silhoutte match where various ranges are shot through the match.

MYR/CBR: 1.333, MYR/DBR: 1.583, MYR/CR: 1.458, MYR/VR: 1.257 MYR/FR: 7/30, MYR grp. 1.88"

MYR/OAR: 1.408

How it stacks against other ammos tested in the same manner / ammo class:

<span style="color: #FF0000">50 YARD RANKINGS</span>

1. Aguila Golden Eagle Match-1035 fps - avg. grp. .75", c. barrel +.5"MG, +.75"EG, 1/5 FL, d. barrel +.25"MG, +.5"EG, 1/10 FL CBR .75, DBR .58, CR .66, VR .58, FR 2/15 OAR .52 $.06, VERY good results for the price! leaves a clumpy residue, most shots where touching or in each other at 50 yds. slightly more flyers than the wolf, but flyers were not extreme (1/8" to 1/4" away)likes a dirty barrel better than clean.

2. Wolf Match Extra-1024 FPS 14 Dev. - avg. grp -1.25", c. barrel ..75"MG, 1"EG, 0/5 FR d. barrel -.75"MG, -1.25"EG, 1/10 FR
CBR .5, DBR 1, CR .75, VR .67, FR 1/15, OAR .730 $.20, pricey, dirty residue, low # flyers, 1 made it -1.25"

3. Wolf Match Target- 943 FPS 24 Dev. - avg. grp 1", c. barrel -.75MG, 1"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel -1"MG, -1"EG, 0/10 FR
CBR .91, DBR .6, CR .79, VR .69, FR 1/15, OAR .749 $.14, dirty residue, low # flyers

4. Rem./Eley T Rifle - 1021 FPS 24Dev. - avg. grp -1", c. barrel -.5"MG, -1"EG, 2/5 FR d. barrel -.75"MG, -1"EG 1/10 FR
CBR 1.16, DBR .91, CR 1.04, VR .92, FR 3/15, OAR 1.01 $.20, semi dirty residue, flyers killed it, highly lubricated

5. Rem. Sub Sonic- 947 FPS 46 Dev. - avg. grp 1.25", c. barrel .5"MG, 1"EG, 2/5 FR d. barrel .75"MG, 1.25"EG, 1/10 FR
CBR 1.16, DBR 1, CR 1.08, VR .94, FR 3/15, OAR 1.04 $.08, dirty residue, good groups for price. 38gr h. point

6. Federal G Medal -1059 FPS 18 Dev. - avg. grp 1.5", c. barrel +.5"MG, 1.5"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel -1"MG, +1"EG, 1/10 FR
CBR 1, DBR 1, CR 1, VR .87, FR 2/15, OAR .968 $.10, clean shooting, nice flyer ratio, a decent neutral ammo, no complaints

7. CCI Green Tag - 988 FPS 31 Dev. - avg. grp -1.5", c. barrel -.75"MG, 1"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel 1" MG, 1.5"EG, 1/10 FR
CBR .91, DBR 1.16, CR 1.04, VR .91, FR 2/15, OAR 1.07 $.14, semi clean, price held it back compared to above. 2 far out flyers.

8. Rem. Tar. 22 s. vel. - 1086 FPS 66 Dev. - avg. grp 1.5", c. barrel -.75"MG, 1"EG, 2/5 FR d. barrel 1.25"MG, 1.5"EG, 1/10 FR
CBR 1.25, DBR 1.25, CR 1.25, VR 1.08, FR 3/15, OAR 1.20 $.08, clean shooting, not too good out of dirty barrel

9. Winc. S.X. T-22- 1056 FPS 50 Dev. - avg. grp. 1.75", c. barrel -.75"MG, 1.5"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel -1"MG, 1.75"EG, 2/10 FR
CBR 1.08, DBR 1.5, CR 1.29, VR 1.11, FR 3/15, OAR 1.24 $.06, semi clean, decent economical ammo in c. barrel. Flyers killed grps.

<span style="color: #3366FF"><span style="font-weight: bold">10. CCI Standard Velocity</span> </span>- 1022 FPS 51 Dev. - avg. grp -1.25", c. barrel .5"MG, 1"EG, 2/5 FR d. barrel .75"MG, 1.25"EG 3/10 FR
CBR 1.12, DBR 1.67, CR 1.42, VR 1.22, FR 5/15, OAR 1.37 $.05, uniform ball residue, shoots somwhat clean, although there are better choices at 50 yards, still a decent shooting ammo for the price, really performs better than others at 100 yards. Although groups are actually smaller than several higher ranked ammos, this ammo does prefer a cleaner barrel and it's DBR is what hurt it - cascading into lowering it's CR, VR, and OAR results and kicking it down the list. It just can't seem to make that transition as the others at 50 yards.


<span style="color: #FF0000">100 YARD RANKING</span>

1. Wolf Match Target - avg. grp. -1.75", c. barrel 1"MG, 1.25"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel 1"MG, -1.75"EG, 1/10 FR CBR 1.08, DBR 1.25, CR 1.16, VR 1.02, FR 2/15, OAR 1.19 $.14, just bet the pricier Extra, tight groups, low flyers. Shot almost equally out of d or c barrels. 11.5" drop.

2. Wolf Match Extra - avg. grp. -2", c. barrel 1.25"MG, 1.75"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel 1.5"MG, -2"EG, 1/10 FR CBR 1.33, DBR 1.5, CR 1.42, VR 1.24, FR 2/15, OAR 1.37 $.20, lost some performance at 100, but still very good. Pricier than #1. 10.75" drop.

3. <span style="color: #3366FF"><span style="font-weight: bold">10. CCI Standard Velocity</span> </span>- avg. grp 2.25", c. barrel .1"MG, 2.5"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel 1.5"MG, 2"EG 1/10 FR
CBR 1.5, DBR 1.5, CR 1.5, VR 1.29, FR 2/15, OAR 1.45 $.05, is not the most accurate ammo at 100 yards, and there are actually ammos lower on the list that group tighter. However the price and low count of flyers (predictability) have bumped it up the list according to the OAR @ 100 yards. 8.5" drop.

4. Federal Gold Match - avg. grp. 1.75", c. barrel .75"MG, 1.75"EG, 2/5 FL d. barrel .75"MG, 1.75"EG, 3/10 FR CBR 1.5, DBR 1.83, CR 1.33, VR 1.44, FR 5/15, OAR 1.53 $.10, gained where others slipped, reliable ammo for the price 9.25" drop.

5. Aguila Golden Eagle Match - avg. grp. 1.75", c. barrel 1.75"MG, +1.75"EG, 2/5 FL d. barrel 1.25"MG, 1.5"EG, 1/10 FL CBR 1.83, DBR 1.25, CR 1.54, VR 1.33, FR 3/15, OAR 1.49 $.06, excellent ammo for the price, half or more of wolf and sk, fell just short of wolf / sk and federal on consistancy, but for the price will live with it. Definately the best value rating, and third in OAR. Likes a dirty barrel. Leaves a clumpy residue. 8.3" drop. great practice ammo, not too bad of a match ammo, an all around dual purpose economical ammo.

6. CCI Green Tag - avg. grp. +2.25", c. barrel 1.5"MG, 2"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel 1.75"MG, +2.25"EG, 3/10 FR CBR 1.5, DBR 2.33, CR 1.92, VR 1.66, FR 4/15, OAR 1.85 $.14, stayed steady to 100yds, 1 or 2 flyers opened the group, pricier than fed. 11" drop.

7. Winc. Sup. X t-22 - avg. grp. +2.25" c. barrel 1.5"MG, 2"EG 2/5 FR d. barrel 1.5"MG, +2.25EG, 3/10 FR CBR 1.58, DBR 2.25, CR 1.92, VR 1.67, FR 4/15, OAR 1.86 $.06, not bad considering $, similar to CCI g.t. at more than half the $. 9" drop.

8. Rem./Eley Targ. Rif. - avg. grp. -2.5" c. barrel 1.5"MG, 2" EG, 2/5 FR d. barrel 1.75"MG, -2.5"EG, 3/10 FR CBR 1.83, DBR 1.81, CR 2.13, VR 1.85, FR 5/15, OAR 1.91 $.20, expected much more for the $, reshot and same results. Heavy lube effecting grps? 10" drop

9. Rem. target 22 - avg. grp +3" c. barrel 1"MG, 3"EG, 1/5 FR d. barrel 1.5"MG, +2.25EG, 3/10 FR CBR 2, DBR 2.75, CR 2.38, VR 2.05, FR 6/15, OAR 2.29 $.08, 10" drop

10. Rem. Sub Sonic- avg. grp ? groups were so erratic and open (over 4.5") no real data could be collected, took it out of 100 yd running. Big surprise as it performed exceptionally well at 50. $.08. reshot, same results.



<span style="color: #FF0000">MULTI YARD RANKING</span>

1. Wolf MatchTarget-MYR/CBR .995, MYR/DBR .925, MYR/CR .978, MYR/VR ..855, MYR/FR 3/30, MYR/OAR .938, avg. MYR grp -1.5"

2. Wolf Match Extra-MYR/CBR .915, MYR/DBR 1.25, MYR/CR 1.08, MYR/VR ..956, MYR/FR 3/30. MYR/OAR 1.22, avg. MYR grp -1.62"

3. Aguila Golden Eagle Match- MYR/CBR 1.29, MYR/DBR .915, MYR/CR 1.10, MRY/VR .955, MYR/FR 5/30, MYR/OAR 1.00, avg. MYR grp 1.13" (the suprisingly small groups shot at 50 yds and the price of the ammo helped it to reach 3rd in the multi yard rankings. the wolf was a bit more consistant on average at both ranges).

4. Federal G. Match-MYR/CBR 1.25, MYR/DBR 1.42, MYR/CR 1.17, MYR/VR 1.16, MYR/FR 7/30, MYR/OAR 1.25, avg. MYR grp 1.62"

5. Rem/Eley T. Rif.- MYR/CBR 1.5, MYR/DBR 1.36, MYR/CR 1.58, MYR/VR ..925, MYR/FR 8/30, MYR/OAR 1.34, avg. MYR grp -2"

<span style="color: #3333FF"><span style="font-weight: bold">6. CCI Standard Velocity </span></span>- MYR/CBR 1.33, MYR/DBR 1.58, MYR/CR 1.46, MYR/VR 1.257, MYR/FR 7/30, MYR/OAR 1.408 avg. MYR grp 1.88"

7. CCI Green Tag- MYR/CBR 1.21, MYR/DBR 1.75, MYR/CR 1.48, MYR/VR 1.29, MYR/FR 6/30, MYR/OAR 1.43, avg. MYR grp +1.88"

8. Winc. S.X.T-22-MYR/CBR 1.33, MYR/DBR 1.88, MYR/CR 1.60, MYR/VR 1.39, MYR/FR 7/30, MYR/OAR 1.55, avg. MYR grp +2"

9. Rem. Target- MYR/CBR 1.63, MYR/DBR 2, MYR/CR 1.81, MYR/VR 1.56, MYR/FR 9/30, MYR/OAR 1.75, avg. MYR grp +2.25

10. Rem. Sub Sonic- open and erratic groups at 100 (over 4.5") could not be measured accurately or consistently.


SIDE NOTE:
Unexpectantly, the CCI SV was also shot through a MKII f (sporter barrel) and seemed to perform as well as the Wolf MT, Aguila Super SV, and Aguila Match Rifle. The consistancy of the CCI SV just didn't give up as much compared to the other three in the "pencil" barrel and was very similiar to how it performed out of the heavy barrel.

All in all, at 50 yards there are many better choices, but as the distance increases, the CCI SV tends to give up less, can actually "run" with ammos twice / three times the price the further out you shoot. It appears to be a good ammo for silhouette competition where 1" at 100 yards can be replace by "Minute of Ram" and is a releatively inexpensive ammo to use as a practice round, with a similiar POI as Wolf MT. What the CCI SV lost at 50 yards, it gained back at 100 yards, and when shooting multi distances stands in the middle - a very neutral ammo at a fairly inexpensive price.

 

[Dylan in AZ]

Re: CCI Standard Velocity ammo test (long post)

Fantastic writeup/review! Thank you so much for the work that went into this. Looking at your comparisons I noticed that there were no Eley ammo's in the running. Did they not make it in by being out performed, or have you not had a chance to try them out yet? I'd be really interested in seeing how the "cheap" Eley compares through your rifle.

Regards,
Dylan

 

[TOP PREDATOR]

Re: CCI Standard Velocity ammo test (long post)

tryed the eley / remington stuff, but didn't get the oppurtunity to run regular eley.

 

[Situation Normal]

Re: CCI Standard Velocity ammo test (long post)

Great write up Top P.

I really need to do some more testing...

I had tested a while ago through my Browning Buckmark, and when I found that it liked the CCI SV the best out of what I tried, I pretty much dedicated the CCI SV to everything that I shoot. Fortunately, everything that I have shoots decently with it, but it makes me wonder how much more accurate they could be with better ammo.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

Re: CCI Standard Velocity ammo test (long post)

Good test, good writeup. Good to see my informal gut feeling about the CCI SV was borne out by good, solid data. Much thanks for all your efforts.

Greg

 

[ida83704]

Re: CCI Standard Velocity ammo test (long post)

I've shot 2200+ rounds of CCI SV over the last few years at the locat Tactical .22 matches.

It is pretty good ammo, HOWEVER, out of every 100 round pack I had 1 or 2 rounds that were supersonic.

 

[J_Roger]

Re: CCI Standard Velocity ammo test (long post)

2 things I love about CCC SV: it shoots great and I can get it anywhere (unlike Wolf, e.g.) Great write up TP... Cheers

 

[Victor N TN]

Re: CCI Standard Velocity ammo test (long post)

Thanks for the article. A lot of good data there.

I've shot the CCI Green Tag a lot when I was shooting standard NRA pistol. Later, after a couple of cases of Green Tag, I moved to the Standard Velocity. Even from a Ransom rest, I coule tell no difference at 25 and again at 50 yards.

The CCI Standard Velocity is what I am using now shooting smallbore.

Thanks a lot for the data.

 

[TOP PREDATOR]

Re: CCI Standard Velocity ammo test (long post)

thanks for the comments.

well, i just bought 2,000 rounds last night, and with some luck will be running that ammo this weekend a 200 yards, and if enough time and good conditions exist 300 yards. then if it looks good enough, back to dick's for another 2K.

i know i'll definately be using it for silhouette too as i already know it can shoot minute of chicken, pig, turkey and ram through both of my setups, not quite convinced yet on any serious papershooting. but definately good enough for mucho quality practicing without the cost factor sitting in the back of the head.

i'm sure with some weight sorting the "magic lot" will perform better on paper, just how much i don't know yet. i doubt it will surpass wolf, but so far has exceeded expectations for the price.

i was using CCI blazer for my "knocking around" ammo - which also works well for the price - but the match / standard velocity of the CCI SV make keeping range dope a bit more easywhen going from a practicing or "knocking around" ammo to a more serious (expensive) ammo. i guess i'm just getting lazy.

 

[captrichardson]

Re: CCI Standard Velocity ammo test (long post)

Thanks for all of your hard work and taking the time to share it!

M Richardson

 

[Pater1]

Re: CCI Standard Velocity ammo test (long post)

Thanks for taking the time to do the test. Great write up. The CCI SV performs very well in my 10/22.

 

[hatidua]

Re: CCI Standard Velocity ammo test (long post)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> it can shoot minute of chicken, pig, turkey and ram</div></div>

Outstanding!

Thanks for the great write-up, some very worthwhile info in there.

 

[BigJimFish]

Re: CCI Standard Velocity ammo test (long post)

The most interesting thing I have found about CCI SV is the diameters. I have a rifle, a lothar walther dedicated .22lr AR upper actually that is remarkably sensitive to bullet diameter. I found this out when I first received the barrel and preceded to test it with different ammos. I was surprised to find that the only thing that I had that it really liked was CCI SV. I was surprised because this was not the most accurate ammo out of the bunch as measured by my Anschutz. The federal gold medal was, but it shot 4" groups at 25 yards in the lothar (not kidding, it was that bad.)

I was a bit miffed to put it mildly. Federal gold medal is a very reasonably priced ammo that shoots very well. I had become partial to it. The CCI is more expensive and hadn't shot as well for me in the past. Frankly I feel like I pay for the fancy box with CCI and it bothers me. Well, I bought some more variety of ammo to expand the test and eventually found the pattern by comparing the winners and losers with my digital caliper. Simply put, the fatties won. Average diameter varied a surprising amount from brand to brand and only the very largest diameters shot straight. Definitely something to consider.

And for those wondering. Yes, I have considered that it is possible that the maker used barrels bored for .223 rem for its dedicated .22lr uppers. Even if they did not the barrels are clearly out of spec to be so intolerant of the majority of .22lr ammo.

 

[0724/1030]

Re: CCI Standard Velocity ammo test (long post)

Excellent review TP. Thank you for taking the time. I have been very pleased with CCI SV but great to see an in depth comparison across multiple price points.

 

[Handloader]

Re: CCI Standard Velocity ammo test (long post)

Great to read this...I have to say that I have been searching out more of your posts.
Thanks for your effort!

 

[davjones]

Re: CCI Standard Velocity ammo test (long post)

Thank you for the write up it is very timely for me since I'm looking to make a bulk buy shortly. A number years ago I was given over 8000 rounds of the old Winchester white box SV long rifle. It has been great ammo, Ave velocity 1081 fps, ES 33 fps, and SD 9.1 fps. I'm mostly a highpower shooter but during the winter I keep in practice shooting rimfire.

I'm just about out of it and have been wondering what to buy next. CCI SV was the next brand I was going to test but it looks like you have save me somw time. Thanks again.

 

[9H_Cracka]

Re: CCI Standard Velocity ammo test (long post)

I always find these threads of interest. As a smallbore shooter, I have a different perspective often when it comes to ammo, performance, and what constitutes a good test.

Here are pics from a recent range visit. I shoot a lot of indoor 50 meter and occasional outdoor 50 yard. On this day, we were doing a work day, and decided to shoot some while paint was drying. It was a very windy (20+ MPH) day, switching out of the north, so I did get caught a few times.

These groups were shot sling, coat, and irons. No bench, no scope. These were shot using my "bad" Eley ammo, some old Tenex round nose that had been left in a storage unit, got over heated, and the lube got deformed/ran down the bullet and accumulated in the box. It still shoots pretty well. It was not an appropriate day to shoot/waste my "good" ammo due to the nasty wind, but I wanted to get some rounds down range anyway.

The 10 ring (the very center ring is the X) on the 50 yard NRA Smallbore target is .875" across. Here are 5 shots on one target. I did get caught once. 4 of 5 are in .28". The 5th shot opens the group up to .75".

On a good conditions day, most shooters would clean the target with the top shooters shooting a 5x clean. The X ring measures .375" BTW.

Here is another target with 10 shots. 7 of the 10 are in a .30" group, the other 3 opening it up to 1.30", due to wind.

Note the 10-to-4 shape to the groups on both targets. The rotation of the bullet against the wind causes the group to form in this fashion. When shooting the smallbore rifle in a switching wind, and choosing to shoot in both a left to right and a right to left condition, necessitates windage AND elevation adjustments to hold the shots centered in the group. from one direction the bullet climbs, the other it rises.

Terror! posted in this thread, and he too has done a lot of testing with rimfire ammo in a Savage. My point in posting this up is this - there are different standards for a) ammo, b) rifle, and c) shooter performance when it comes to 22LR. With a good rifle and good ammo, group sizes really do not vary much when the shooter does his part, which in the world of 22LR is no easy task. 22s are extremely sensitive to pressure on the rifle from the shooter due to the barrel time. 22s are harder to get to shoot to the same point of impact than center fire is.

In your ammo testing, if you see groups down around half an inch then up to 1.5 inches in good conditions with the same ammo, guess what - IT AIN'T THE AMMO giving you a 3x larger group or 1/3 the size group within the same lot. IT IS YOU.

I have tested a lot of ammo at 50 meters indoors with a scope, off both a bench and bags as well as with a test fixture holding the rifle. Lot testing, within the same brand and model of ammo, is essential to finding good ammo for your rifle. Saying this brand and model of ammo is good is almost meaningless. There are different quality groups if you will, but once in that group, you must test, in a meaningful predictable fashion, to find a lot your rifle likes.

Most all of the ammo talked about in this rimfire sub-forum I have tested at one time or another. I need to test some of the Dick's STD VEL talked about above just to get a sense of what category it falls into, but I suspect it is right in there with all the other large name brand subsonic/"target" ammo - Remmy Std Vel Tgt (green box with blue stripe) and WIN T-22.

When I first started shooting 50 meters I did so with a scoped 540XD and Rem green/blue box for 3 league nights. The 3 scores were within 10 points (out of 600) with each other. I switched to Wolf Match (which is SK Jag in a different box) and my scores went up 30 points on the ammo alone.

Something like this CCI Std Vel may work very well for the tactical trainer role, meaning it shoots on call on moderate sized targets, is relatively cheap, and readily available, but don't confuse it with real match ammo.

 

[wksinatl]

Re: CCI Standard Velocity ammo test (long post)

Great write up TP.

Keith

 

[TOP PREDATOR]

Re: CCI Standard Velocity ammo test (long post)

thanks

i wouldn't confuse it with real match ammo, as you can see where it falls compared to others in the original post shot through a MKII. of course through an annie, cz, marlin, etc. it may be different story.

i think it falls into the "target ammo" catagory (win T-22, rem target, etc.) and toward the top of that catagory, bordering on a lesser match type ammo to use for practice for expensive match ammo substitute. it probably wouldn't be a good choice for ARA benchrest competiton.

but an excellent silhouette round and an inexpensive consistant round to use at 100 and plus yards where others in it's catagory fall off.

it's definately better than a plinker bulk ammo type round, and at 25.00 a brick at dick's it's worth checking out. it's a little more $ than those plinker type rounds, but you do get alot more performance out of it.

 

[9H_Cracka]

Re: CCI Standard Velocity ammo test (long post)

TP - I think what you said above pretty well sums it up.

The CCI Std Vel is very popular with 50 foot and 25 yard bullseye and sport pistol users BTW.

 

[saburai]

Re: CCI Standard Velocity ammo test (long post)

Many thanks for your time and experience.

 

[Ghillie Zen]

Re: CCI Standard Velocity ammo test (long post)

Excellent review! As stated, there is better 22lr ammo available when going for the tightest groups possible, but you will certainly pay more for the "better" options.

I've been using CCI SV as my go-to bulk 22lr ammo for a couple years now. I don't even bother buying subs anymore, since this does everything I need with a suppressor. It's pretty damn consistent for the money, easily found and has stayed subsonic with all my 22s, regardless of barrel length.

This ammo groups exceptionally well with my CZ452 and is great in my AWC Amphibian too. The amphibian is set up to use high velocity rounds, but I personally have found that CCI SV cycles through it just fine, plus it seems to suppress and group better than the recommended Remington Golden Bullets.