CheyTac Owner Blaine Campbell Falsely Claims to be a Green Beret

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Kinda like the guy I met yesterday with an Air Force hat and I asked him what he did and he answered "SF," expecting me to think "Special Forces," which from his reaction was clearly what he intended.

Instead I said, "How did you like Security Forces?"

His chest deflated a bit, although it didn't need to, but it's not PJ or JTAC.

My son is a 68W. I told him to come home with a Ranger tab or a Green Barret if he wants to talk shit, otherwise me, my wife, or his uncles have done everything else in the USAF/ARMY/Marines.

I suspect he will, but time will tell.
 

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Kinda like the guy I met yesterday with an Air Force hat and I asked him what he did and he answered "SF," expecting me to think "Special Forces," which from his reaction was clearly what he intended.

Instead I said, "How did you like Security Forces?"

His chest deflated a bit, although it didn't need to, but it's not PJ or JTAC.

My son is a 68W. I told him to come home with a Ranger tab or a Green Barret if he wants to talk shit, otherwise me, my wife, or his uncles have done everything else in the USAF/ARMY/Marines.

I suspect he will, but time will tell.

...extra motivation...
 

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well let's be fair, if a man can be a woman, a woman a man, kids are being told to hold off on declaring sex then have at it! lol
In our current "Woke Aware" culture, you can now "Present - Identify" as anything you like and it's supposed to be acknowledged and accepted without question.

In a world where real achievement and valid credentials matter, the crazy people have infiltrated with this PC bullshit.

A pal, retired now, was the chief scientist for a critical DOD defense contractor. He has a PhD in Physics from UCB (back when Berkeley was top in Physics). He hired PhDs. He said, not all degrees are equal. And with today's schools, that's magnified x 10. He taught me to ignore the letters after a name until they were vetted with proof in performance.

Check out Dr. Hien Tran, PhD. A phony degree from a diploma mill. As I recall, he paid $2500 for it.

He wasn't fired by the State of California, he was promoted and still has PhD after his name..


The world's full of this crap. As someone who interviewed grads fresh out of some expensive private colleges for work in the imaging arts, only about 10% know anything. Their CVs are full of created BS achievements and lies. And, they all think they're incredibly intelligent and special and DESERVING.
 

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In our current "Woke Aware" culture, you can now "Present - Identify" as anything you like and it's supposed to be acknowledged and accepted without question.

In a world where real achievement and valid credentials matter, the crazy people have infiltrated with this PC bullshit.

A pal, retired now, was the chief scientist for a critical DOD defense contractor. He has a PhD in Physics from UCB (back when Berkeley was top in Physics). He hired PhDs. He said, not all degrees are equal. And with today's schools, that's magnified x 10. He taught me to ignore the letters after a name until they were vetted with proof in performance.

Check out Dr. Hien Tran, PhD. A phony degree from a diploma mill. As I recall, he paid $2500 for it.

He wasn't fired by the State of California, he was promoted and still has PhD after his name..


The world's full of this crap. As someone who interviewed grads fresh out of some expensive private colleges for work in the imaging arts, only about 10% know anything. Their CVs are full of created BS achievements and lies. And, they all think they're incredibly intelligent and special and DESERVING.
agree and its' ridiculous

this guy should have been fired, what an absolute joke
 

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I come from a Military Family that served before, during and after the American Revolution. We stood the watch, nothing special just stood the watch, it is an insult to all that have served to Bloviate about events that did not happen or qualifications that we're not earned.

I lost a good friend during the Pandemic, his funeral, only 5 were allowed, so sad. I knew him over thirty years, he had burn scars on his left arm but never mentioned them, he was in Vietnam, never talked about it, his Obit, he had a Bronze Star with a V, he stood the watch, did his duty and moved on. My BIL has a Purple Heart citation but no medal, left it on the bed of the hospital ship, took a job as a door gunner while his foot healed, he did not think his wound mattered compared to the other Marines in his unit, he stood the watch and meets with the dwindling surviving members of his unit every year. His twin brother was an Air Lift EMT, copter crashed just after dropping off a patient at the hospital, killed both pilots, put him in rehab for 1.5 years, he got back on the horse and did his job until retirement.

Stolen Valor should not be Tolerated it insults everyone that Stood the Watch.
 

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    I was stationed with a guy that claimed he was recon/dive qualified (wore the pins),

    UPDATE HOLY SHIT. The above incident took place in 2003 and I just saw this. That’s him…..😂😂😂😂😂 I have no doubt that he told the reporter that he was a retired SEAL.

    As far as the recon thing goes, he likely was bullshitting you as many assume that the combination of these two skill badges:
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    means that the wearer is/was part of a USMC reconnaisance unit. In reality, all they mean is that the wearer attended the appropriate schools and recorded the required number of jumps and dives in the appropriate duty assignments to qualify for the Naval Parachutist Badge and Naval Scuba Diver badge.

    Those two are not, by themselves, representative of duty in a Marine Recon billet.
     

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    I remember his dive pin was gold. While in the chow line overseas waiting on OIF to kick off, folks would ask him about his pins. He would tell everyone that only those that had "X" amount of combat dives were allowed to wear the gold pin. He always walked around with his Recon hoodie wearing his UDT shorts. I could write pages of all the BS he told folks. He did not work for me directly. We were both under 3rd MAW but we were assigned to different commands. He was filling an APT billet at MAG-11 HQ. As I said, I think he started believing his own crap. After he was outed and made to take the stuff off of his uniform for his last 10 days or so before he retired, he was caught two more times wearing all the same stuff again. It was like he just didn't understand why he was made to take off his pins and ribbons. They should have followed through with their original plan and hammered his ass and maybe that would have put an end to his grandeur.
     
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    It matters to those that have served and have earned the title. That's good enough for me to care.
    It matters when people falsely represent qualifications and experience for jobs and the market items specifically to those types of groups. Those people negatively impact those with the real qualifications and experience by taking jobs they have no business taking because they lack the experience and organizational knowledge.
     
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    ArmyRanger.com had a poser hunter forum I believe they also worked with SOCNET guys to vet people making fraudulent claims. To get on the Forum you had to be a vetted member (they pulled your green card at RTB). I hadn't been on that site for a while.
     
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    Disclaimer: I am aligned with CheyTac USA due to my representations for their technology to the SASC and other J level elements on counters to Next Gen near peer threats. I have not received any compensation, employment position, or have contractual relations outside of NDA's with Campbell Arms/CheyTac USA. It was discussed openly that I would come in to development work for them. I later decided to hold, until a few benchmarks were met.

    Blaine Campbell has consistently claimed he completed all phases of the SFQC (which he did attend classes 5-93 and 1-94). This was his basis for claiming 18B MOS Q'd. That personal issues became professional post Robin Sage and he was shipped off to Support BN of JFKSWCS.

    I find it unfortunate that both that the GoTGB and the SAF ran this story before my independent investigation of the matter had one single FOIA or other records requests completed.

    For initiating this independent investigation, I was removed from online (FB) Special Forces groups that could assist in validating information.

    It is by my direction that Blaine Campbell shared the only substantiated information (documents shown on SSD) and directed him to issue an immediate retraction and apology, that was conditionally private, until my complete investigation was concluded.

    Blaine has stated to me events and details that would lead any rational observer would conclude that his story, while not likely, was possible. A story the multiple FOIA and other records requests would validate his story as patently false or true.

    The twitch reaction to offer this maladroit and impulsive story in-front of the online "Tribunal of the Holy Office of the Inquisition" might show ulterior motives.

    CheyTac USA has pending litigation with several infringers of protected technologies, patents, and trademarks.


    I have made this statement without the direction or even knowledge of Blaine Campbell or the owners of CheyTac USA.

    My guess is that now it will be out my ability to influence.

    Hi,

    DISCLAIMER: I am no lawyer but I did run this by my legal department (Could be worth what you paid for it, lol) along with super brief reading them in on the lawsuits and such....
    Here is their summary.

    The above bolded implication could come back and bite CheyTac USA in the butt even with your disclaimer of posted without direction or knowledge.

    That is some big boy business implications that you just essentially lined out in writing that these "outing" organizations done/could of done so falsely on Blaine at the request of one or a number of the companies that CheyTac USA is suing.

    May want to run that one by the CheyTac USA legal team, IMO.

    Will be hard for CheyTac USA to remove themselves from such implication IF it comes down to 100% verified Stolen Valor, along with it would set a pattern of falsifications and blaming others....that will definitely roll over into the character rebuttal from the companies being sued by CheyTac USA.

    Good luck on the lawsuits.
    Nice to see another participate in the Next Gen 2400m targeting desires that .mil has an interest in.

    Sincerely,
    Theis
     

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    I always thought the Cheytac 408 and the EDM arms rifle looked sort of similar. Did Bill R. design the rifle and Cheytac
    designed the sling swivel studs, or was there more to it.
     

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    I always thought the Cheytac 408 and the EDM arms rifle looked sort of similar. Did Bill R. design the rifle and Cheytac
    designed the sling swivel studs, or was there more to it.

    Hi,

    So back in the founding days it was Cheytac & Associates...that is important in the real history of what is todays era of "CheyTac".

    The original 408CT test rifle was called the Prometheus and was built on a standard bolt action receiver in a big McM stock.

    After successful testing and proving the 408CT (NOT THE SAME AS CURRENT CARTRIDGE BTW) the desire to have EDM chamber their windrunner in the cartridge for testing was reached.

    EDM manufactured 25 Windrunners chambered in the 408CT.

    Cheytac & Associates took delivery of IIRC 7 and then took 2 down to Briley in Houston to manufacture them in attempts to cut EDM Arms out of the deal. We are talking like a 2 year timespan of testing the EDM built "Cheytac" guns in the 408CT of all this debacle.

    The over the barrel bipod and barrel shroud was not EDM design; it actually came from one of the "Associates" companies of Cheytac & Associates called Sniping Operations Executive. It was manufactured by Becker Machine & Tool in MN.
    During this timeframe Cheytac & Associates operated out of a gas station in Arco ID.

    Long story short, there was a 22 or 25 million dollar lawsuit back and forth between EDM Arms and Cheytac & Associates that drug out for a few years with both companies making their version of the Windrunner chambered in 408CT. It was eventually agreed upon and dropped with understanding that both entities will continue to do what they were currently doing.

    Also, the 375CT was not designed nor tested by Cheytac & Associates at all, lol.....Cheytac did not start using that name and cartridge until about 4 years after we were shooting rifles built by Lawton Machine.
    The 375CT was originally called the 375 No Name and were all built on Lawton 8000 actions.

    I bring that up because it IS most definitely going to be called into evidence of these current CheyTac USA lawsuits against other companies for using the term 375 and 408 CheyTac.

    The original 408CT was significantly better ballistics than the current 408CT version.
    The original pushed the 419gr mono at close to 3200fps compared to the current version of 2850.
    When the decision was made to "water" the original version down due to a couple pressure spike instances is when we started looking for its' replacement. That replacement was the 375 No Name.

    Sincerely,
    Theis
     

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    Hi,

    So back in the founding days it was Cheytac & Associates...that is important in the real history of what is todays era of "CheyTac".

    The original 408CT test rifle was called the Prometheus and was built on a standard bolt action receiver in a big McM stock.

    After successful testing and proving the 408CT (NOT THE SAME AS CURRENT CARTRIDGE BTW) the desire to have EDM chamber their windrunner in the cartridge for testing was reached.

    EDM manufactured 25 Windrunners chambered in the 408CT.

    Cheytac & Associates took delivery of IIRC 7 and then took 2 down to Briley in Houston to manufacture them in attempts to cut EDM Arms out of the deal. We are talking like a 2 year timespan of testing the EDM built "Cheytac" guns in the 408CT of all this debacle.

    The over the barrel bipod and barrel shroud was not EDM design; it actually came from one of the "Associates" companies of Cheytac & Associates called Sniping Operations Executive. It was manufactured by Becker Machine & Tool in MN.
    During this timeframe Cheytac & Associates operated out of a gas station in Arco ID.

    Long story short, there was a 22 or 25 million dollar lawsuit back and forth between EDM Arms and Cheytac & Associates that drug out for a few years with both companies making their version of the Windrunner chambered in 408CT. It was eventually agreed upon and dropped with understanding that both entities will continue to do what they were currently doing.

    Also, the 375CT was not designed nor tested by Cheytac & Associates at all, lol.....Cheytac did not start using that name and cartridge until about 4 years after we were shooting rifles built by Lawton Machine.
    The 375CT was originally called the 375 No Name and were all built on Lawton 8000 actions.

    I bring that up because it IS most definitely going to be called into evidence of these current CheyTac USA lawsuits against other companies for using the term 375 and 408 CheyTac.

    The original 408CT was significantly better ballistics than the current 408CT version.
    The original pushed the 419gr mono at close to 3200fps compared to the current version of 2850.
    When the decision was made to "water" the original version down due to a couple pressure spike instances is when we started looking for its' replacement. That replacement was the 375 No Name.

    Sincerely,
    Theis
    Thanks for the excellent Cliff Notes version. Much appreciated.
     

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    Kinda like the guy I met yesterday with an Air Force hat and I asked him what he did and he answered "SF," expecting me to think "Special Forces," which from his reaction was clearly what he intended.

    Instead I said, "How did you like Security Forces?"

    His chest deflated a bit, although it didn't need to, but it's not PJ or JTAC.

    My son is a 68W. I told him to come home with a Ranger tab or a Green Barret if he wants to talk shit, otherwise me, my wife, or his uncles have done everything else in the USAF/ARMY/Marines.

    I suspect he will, but time will tell.
    Tell him to go 18D(SF medic) or get the W1 and Q5 identifier so he can be a dive medic in Ranger Batt. and get an extra 150 a month for Hazard Duty Incentive Pay.

    I was a 68W also. If he has any questions feel free to contact me.


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    Thanks for the excellent Cliff Notes version. Much appreciated.

    Hi,

    O yea, I forgot the part where Briley was leaving the ASA gun range in Houston and had 2 fully equipped rifles, optics, etc in pelican cases fall out of the truck and onto the road only to notice when they got back to the shop, lolol.....
    That was an awesome ATF audit, hahaha

    Sincerely,
    Theis

    Sounds like someone has been a little shady in all aspects of life and business

    Hi,

    Yes but current CheyTac USA ownership is its' own thing and were no part of the previous 6 ownerships debacles, lol.

    I have the original 375 No Name cartridge drawings, the 2nd rifle ever built for it and boxes of documents and testing information that shows the name "Cheytac" had absolutely ZERO to do with that cartridge.

    Pretty sure I have picture of my rifle with the Bound Book entry date from Lawton Machine showing the manufactured date next to one of the gun rag covers "debuting" the 375CT that shows about a 4 year time difference, lolol

    Sincerely,
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    I think it's typical of any custom/semi-custom builder of anything. Folks trying to skip the work to get the bigger bucks. I've seen it with car builders, luthiers, IT consultants, you name it. Someone is looking to inflate their abilities, or credentials to get the bigger $ jobs.
     

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    Two "Stolen Valor" experiences when I was in

    First

    Kid on MSG...claimed he was with a special unit on a "Top Secret" Air Force AIRCRAFT CARRIER. Was wearing ribbons he didnt rate and invented the fantasy to explain his ribbons. Guess he never thought anyone would ever question his rack but in the USMC at that time if you had more than one ribbon you looked like Audie Murphy and peeps wondered.

    The bullshit was so deep it was awful. We mercilessly mocked him in the detachment. When standing post we would have a name card displayed on the desk. The back of his card was savaged with graffiti regarding his tales.

    I dont know why but the Master Guns Det Commander only counseled him.

    Second was after getting called back for GWI. we were casualty replacements going through advanced infantry training in Pendelton getting prepped to ship to Iraq if casualty numbers required fresh meat.

    One of the IRR call backs was writing his family telling he was in the Gulf the entire time. When we were cut loose and told to go home I noted the kid putting 3-4 rows of ribbons on his blues.

    I told him not in my presence, Ill rip that shit off your chest if I see it again.

    Guessing at the airport he donned his blue neck ribbon.
     
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    Having not served myself, I don't think I have the right to being the same level of indignant, as those of you who did. That being said, I have the utmost gratitude and respect for those who've served. Both Grandfather and Dad, retired Air Force and many other family and friends served in all branches. I think there should be much harsher penalties for those who lie about their military accomplishments and credentials, especially for monetary gain. "Stolen Valor" is an apt term for this kind of thing. What insecure, fragile egos and deceiptful natures they must have, to stoop so low.
     

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    Having not served myself, I don't think I have the right to being the same level of indignant, as those of you who did. That being said, I have the utmost gratitude and respect for those who've served. Both Grandfather and Dad, retired Air Force and many other family and friends served in all branches. I think there should be much harsher penalties for those who lie about their military accomplishments and credentials, especially for monetary gain. "Stolen Valor" is an apt term for this kind of thing. What insecure, fragile egos and deceiptful natures they must have, to stoop so low.


    A military wont run without cooks, supply and admin guys.
     

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    Before I really knew better, thirty years, ago, I had a roommate who managed a pub. I'd go there to eat and drink for cheap. Their was a Jabba the Hutt, looking fellow that frequented. After a few drinks, he'd get to going about his tails of combat, sniping and survival, in Vietnam. After a few of these occasions, I started doing the math and concluded he was definitely not old enough to have served during that era. I asked around a few guys. They laughed and confirmed, he was making up stuff, maybe he read it in the plethora of pulp fiction and documentaries about Vietnam. Today, I'd definitely challenge him and give him a good ass chewing about surfing on the honor of those who served and died.
     

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    A military wont run without cooks, supply and admin guys.
    Agree. They are necessary and when it gets down to the nut cuttin, they have to pick up a rifle and fight, along with those who specialize in such.
     

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    Hi,

    DISCLAIMER: I am no lawyer but I did run this by my legal department (Could be worth what you paid for it, lol) along with super brief reading them in on the lawsuits and such....
    Here is their summary.

    The above bolded implication could come back and bite CheyTac USA in the butt even with your disclaimer of posted without direction or knowledge.

    That is some big boy business implications that you just essentially lined out in writing that these "outing" organizations done/could of done so falsely on Blaine at the request of one or a number of the companies that CheyTac USA is suing.

    May want to run that one by the CheyTac USA legal team, IMO.

    Will be hard for CheyTac USA to remove themselves from such implication IF it comes down to 100% verified Stolen Valor, along with it would set a pattern of falsifications and blaming others....that will definitely roll over into the character rebuttal from the companies being sued by CheyTac USA.

    Good luck on the lawsuits.
    Nice to see another participate in the Next Gen 2400m targeting desires that .mil has an interest in.

    Sincerely,
    Theis


    And there you go including his quote in your post so he has no way to go back and delete it like it never happened............:)
     

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    Agree. They are necessary and when it gets down to the nut cuttin, they have to pick up a rifle and fight, along with those who specialize in such.


    Army/USMC on Saipan.

    Japs threw a last ditch Banzai.

    It was Cooks, Bakers, Pogs and Wounded that ended it after the Japs had cut the front to pieces. 105s were using flat to negative elevation with canister.

     
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    I think it's typical of any custom/semi-custom builder of anything. Folks trying to skip the work to get the bigger bucks. I've seen it with car builders, luthiers, IT consultants, you name it. Someone is looking to inflate their abilities, or credentials to get the bigger $ jobs.
    The funny part is that if they just produced a consistent quality product, then people would buy their shit because it’s a consistent quality product.
     
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    I'd heard a bit about the problems between EDM and Cheytac from Bill. I made suppressors for him a couple
    of times and he was always a stand up guy.
    Was it Cheytac that tried to get receivers made in Fremont CA? Shop didn't have an ffl and it turned into a bit of an issue.
     

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    @THEIS - Briley in Houston....as in Briley who makes shotgun sub-gauges tubes?

    Wow, I know they do a little light gunsmithing work but never thought of them as having the chops to be a rifle manufacturer...particularly this kind of specialized weapon.

    What year was this, please
     

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    We can be anything we want to be if we believe it........

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    Give this guy credit for understanding shame and honor.....

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    If I remember right his issue was with a "V" device on a BS.......and he may have just been in error of understanding but not so long ago in 1996 people took shit serious.
    You would have to give that hideous thing the larger pic. Damn, that hurts my eyes! Lol
     

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    @THEIS - Briley in Houston....as in Briley who makes shotgun sub-gauges tubes?

    Wow, I know they do a little light gunsmithing work but never thought of them as having the chops to be a rifle manufacturer...particularly this kind of specialized weapon.

    What year was this, please

    Hi,

    Yes, same Briley....2004-2008'ish.

    Briley actually does a good amount of OEM work that has nothing to do with shotgun tubes/chokes.
    One would be surprised at the pistol and rifle parts they make, lol.

    Sincerely,
    Theis
     
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    Hi,

    Yes, same Briley....2004-2008'ish.

    Briley actually does a good amount of OEM work that has nothing to do with shotgun tubes/chokes.
    One would be surprised at the pistol and rifle parts they make, lol.

    Sincerely,
    Theis
    Sort of like Kolar....yeah, they make tubes and a shotgun but they also make missile nose cone type stuff on contract....or used to.

    Thanks for the reply. 👍 💪 👏
     

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    Hi,

    O yea, I forgot the part where Briley was leaving the ASA gun range in Houston and had 2 fully equipped rifles, optics, etc in pelican cases fall out of the truck and onto the road only to notice when they got back to the shop, lolol.....
    That was an awesome ATF audit, hahaha

    Sincerely,
    Theis



    Hi,

    Yes but current CheyTac USA ownership is its' own thing and were no part of the previous 6 ownerships debacles, lol.

    I have the original 375 No Name cartridge drawings, the 2nd rifle ever built for it and boxes of documents and testing information that shows the name "Cheytac" had absolutely ZERO to do with that cartridge.

    Pretty sure I have picture of my rifle with the Bound Book entry date from Lawton Machine showing the manufactured date next to one of the gun rag covers "debuting" the 375CT that shows about a 4 year time difference, lolol

    Sincerely,
    Theis

    Theis:
    I remember when he lost those rifles. The news reported it but it wasn't much more than "a couple of sniper rifles lost". I could just see a bunch of pick-up trucks swarming I-10 looking for rifle cases on the side of the road.

    Were they ever "found"?
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    Theis:
    I remember when he lost those rifles. The news reported it but it wasn't much more than "a couple of sniper rifles lost". I could just see a bunch of pick-up trucks swarming I-10 looking for rifle cases on the side of the road.

    Were they ever "found"?
    Thanks
    I wondered how this could happen. I picture in my mind, someone forgot to put the tailgate up and they just slid out and bounced down the road. My brain instantly starts thinking this is a coverup and someone sold them, but I'm always thinking about "what's really going on".
     

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    From what I have read so far, I always thought that it was sad what happened to Bill Ritchie and EDM Arms. From my point of view, the guy was a genius in designing firearms, but definitely not a business man, CheyTac (at the time) knew this and screwed him up.
     

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    Shit, I'm jealous... They absolutely fucked up my DD214, it has NOTHING on it at all... Maybe it was because I was too high speed and that gonna be "classified"!

    Dude did some cool shit, why not be proud of what you did? I am. And everyone else I know is.
     
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    Shit, I'm jealous... They absolutely fucked up my DD214, it has NOTHING on it at all... Maybe it was because I was too high speed and that gonna be "classified"!

    Dude did some cool shit, why not be proud of what you did? I am. And everyone else I know is.
    How the hell did that happen???

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    And there you go including his quote in your post so he has no way to go back and delete it like it never happened............:)
    Like I would. It actually helps me. Because now the purpose of the post is complete. 3rd party validated. My statement was important to me personally to mark my position on the matter in a place in time. Matters like this are still taken very seriously with the SF regiment. My alignments are clear and my efforts are known. Lawyers are going lawyer. I’m just trying to move the ball downfield.
     

    fox33c1

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    If you didn't serve one day on an ODA in Group you definitely have no business telling anyone your a GB. Just my opinion..
    From my understanding, JFKSWCS is putting together a policy on this. Since SF service is different for different time frames and the SFQC has changed a bunch of times, there can be confusion. From my understanding Vietnam era gets one set of rules, until SF branch another, pre GWOT and then post GWOT. But the title of Green Beret would require X amount of team time. Tab orders and MOS Q non withstanding.
     
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    How the hell did that happen???

    Doc
    I imagine DD214's get fucked up all the time...mine was. By the time I got to out-processing for retirement I was like "just let me get the fuck out of here before I kill someone". They started messing with me over my time in service and I said screw it, I'm not retiring . That got some panties in a bunch. While they were busy gnashing their teeth I noticed they had a bronze service star for a combat jump on my senior parachutist badge. I was so pissed off I just wanted to leave so wasn't about to go through another ordeal trying to correct it. I've never claimed nor worn the star, but DD214's are only as good as the SP4, on a Friday afternoon, that typed them up.


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    A far more accurate description of what you did is found on the Officer/Enlisted Record Brief, which is a living document updated continuously throughout one's career.

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    I imagine DD214's get fucked up all the time...mine was. By the time I got to out-processing for retirement I was like "just let me get the fuck out of here before I kill someone". They started messing with me over my time in service and I said screw it, I'm not retiring . That got some panties in a bunch. While they were busy gnashing their teeth I noticed they had a bronze service star for a combat jump on my senior parachutist badge. I was so pissed off I just wanted to leave so wasn't about to go through another ordeal trying to correct it. I've never claimed nor worn the star, but DD214's are only as good as the SP4, on a Friday afternoon, that typed them up.


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    A far more accurate description of what you did is found on the Officer/Enlisted Record Brief, which is a living document updated continuously throughout one's career.

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    Very impressive Sir.

    Thank you for your service.

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    I saw a poser who is younger than me with a Vietnam Service medal on his fake ribbon rack.

    I’m 62, came in in 1976, retired in 2018.

    I called him out on it and he insisted I was wrong.

    as if…..


    Was this him?

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    Give this guy credit for understanding shame and honor.....

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    If I remember right his issue was with a "V" device on a BS.......and he may have just been in error of understanding but not so long ago in 1996 people took shit serious.
    Damn.......

    I was two years gone and in a DGAF mood about the Navy so I never heard of this guy committing seppuku. Gotta say, he owned up to his mistake.
     
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    stefan73

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    Shit, I'm jealous... They absolutely fucked up my DD214, it has NOTHING on it at all... Maybe it was because I was too high speed and that gonna be "classified"!

    Dude did some cool shit, why not be proud of what you did? I am. And everyone else I know is.
    You can get that fixed. Surprised you didn't fix it when retiring.