Chinese KVC / RQE bridge?

Thermal L. Jackson

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"We did it, Zhao."

I was trying to track down a bridge for someone today when I came across this listing. As mentioned in another recent Hide thread by cschastain2, "Chinese have no knocks offs of the KVC Bridge for good reason." This was my understanding as well. At least, before today it was.

Anybody put their hands on one of these?



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Ahh yes, "patented" (according to product photo)...just not by them.

So unfortunate that the real deal is unavailable.

"We did it, Zhao."

I was trying to track down a bridge for someone today when I came across this listing. As mentioned in another recent Hide thread by cschastain2, "Chinese have no knocks offs of the KVC Bridge for good reason." This was my understanding as well. At least, before today it was.

Anybody put their hands on one of these?



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I ordered one to compare with the US-made version. The Chinesium edition just arrived.

Initial thoughts:

- Chinesium is 0.5 oz heavier.
- The clip mechanism tolerances are clearly incorrect. It works, but you can tell something is dimensioned incorrectly.
- Fasteners are different.
- Finish and materials may be different.
- Machining is not as good.
- Lubrication not present.
- Will it work? Yes. Is the US-Made version available? No. Is that a shame? Yes.

Photo (Chinesium on top, US-Made on bottom):

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edit (more updates):

  • Voodoo-S shoe fits fine.
  • SkeetIR-L shoe fits fine.
  • US-made RQE shoe set fits fine.
  • The little tongue adjustment allows good, solid lockup in a Wilcox G24.
  • One end has a little play in it; not sure how to adjust or tighten. Not a huge amount of play but it's there. You can tell this thing is Chinesium. Way better than I thought it would be, though.
  • Chinesium shoes you get on eBay are loose in this Chinese bridge, just like they are in the Wilcox Chinese bridge.
  • The Chinesium grail will be the RQE shoe set. Chinese santa may be reading this right now. If you are reading, Chinese santa, copy the RQE shoe set.
  • Fasteners are definitely different. When flipping everything around for thermal use to get Skeets closer to your face, the big silver "thumb screw" looking fasteners actually take a 3mm hex key instead of the size taken by the US version. General quality of fasteners is lower; they are a different metal.
  • They didn't actually copy the set-screw recess depth correctly. All of the blue screws are in holders - you are supposed to be able to use them to lock a dovetail shoe in place in the lateral unoccupied holes on the arms. The Chinese version doesn't have those unoccupied holes machined to the proper depth, so all those blue set-screws are worthless hahaha
I would not be advocating for communist copies of this stuff, but if KAC won't deliver, perhaps the Chinese will meet the market demand. What good is a patent if you refuse to produce the product?

Jay
 
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Wow…Will it adjust eye relief fore and aft?
Yes sir. There are a few positions (for both eyes at the same time; you can't have different fore/aft adjustment between your eyes; they are tied together). Also, if you want it even closer (for thermal use with a Skeet, for example) you can disassemble the unit and flip the entire primary dovetail assembly around (as shown with the black bridge in the photo; the real one). I've used the Voodoo and Skeet together in that config, along with a 14. I flipped around the Chinese version after I took this photo, as well.

Overall, best quality Chinese bridge I have handled. The Chinese Wilcox bridges are trash.

Jay
 
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Thermal L. Jackson

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Yes sir. There are a few positions (for both eyes at the same time; you can't have different fore/aft adjustment between your eyes; they are tied together). Also, if you want it even closer (for thermal use with a Skeet, for example) you can disassemble the unit and flip the entire primary dovetail assembly around (as shown with the black bridge in the photo; the real one). I've used the Voodoo and Skeet together in that config, along with a 14. I flipped around the Chinese version after I took this photo, as well.

Overall, best quality Chinese bridge I have handled. The Chinese Wilcox bridges are trash.

Jay
Your input and research continues to be unparalleled. Many thanks.

Counting down the days until Reed Knight is gone from KAC.
 
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Your input and research continues to be unparalleled. Many thanks.

Counting down the days until Trey Knight is gone from KAC.

You might mean Reed. Regardless, here's some more info:

I found there to be a little bit (re: tiny amount) of play in the dovetail components that move laterally. Thankfully, the Chinese copied the tightening mechanisms correctly (they missed the purpose of the blue set screws, but they didn't miss THESE set screws!):

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Use a 0.9mm hex wrench to tighten the four screws shown, and you are golden. Note that the fasteners are not only different than the US version in a lot of places, they are actually dimensionally different in their wrench patterns. Small price to pay for obtainable functionality.

Hope this helps. By the way, this is very typical of Chinese counterfeiting that occurs in many industries. I have seen military materiel systems copied and key things not copied correctly due to the Chinese not having a full technical understanding. Sometimes this has led to disastrous results. As always, your mileage may vary with communist rip-offs.

Jay
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Thermal L. Jackson

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You might mean Reed. Regardless, here's some more info:

I found there to be a little bit (re: tiny amount) of play in the dovetail components that move laterally. Thankfully, the Chinese copied the tightening mechanisms correctly (they missed the purpose of the blue set screws, but they didn't miss THESE set screws!):

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Use a 0.9mm hex wrench to tighten the four screws shown, and you are golden. Note that the fasteners are not only different than the US version in a lot of places, they are actually dimensionally different in their wrench patterns. Small price to pay for obtainable functionality.

Hope this helps. By the way, this is very typical of Chinese counterfeiting that occurs in many industries. I have seen military materiel systems copied and key things not copied correctly due to the Chinese not having a full technical understanding. Sometimes this has led to disastrous results. As always, your mileage may vary with communist rip-offs.

Jay
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