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Choppers lifting off the embassy in Stan

Stuff is property of Afghan Goverment is it not? It just the government that changed.Call it enhanced snap elections instead of dominion voting machines , back room deals with local leaders ensured smooth transition. So...... :devilish:

But still all the ''toys'' left behind no one there will even bother to use
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Yep lots of ANA gear captured that if we intended to continue the joke that the ANA was viable we had to leave that gear in their grasp knowing full well it would be turned over to the Taliban.

Trump would have had to do the same.

Its why nation building is stupid.

Where was Pershing to lead the 10/2001 Punitive Expedition to Afghanistan?

Thats all our strategy goal should have been.
 
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For 18 months you had a deal signed in Doha, Taliban leave you alone,you leave Taliban alone and troops leave Afghanistan , as simple as that .Hence no casualties. Indeed we should have withdrawn years ago. Trump did the right thing and MICMC is still pissed .Fucking 300mioS/per day , Try as he might even Hunter Biden couldn't snort or fuck away,300mio in next couple of decades.

ANA was going to collapse one way or another once the support and air power US and Nato troops provided was taken away. That was also part of the deal in Doha, so unless ANA magically found will to fight on its own, because holding the line so that foreigners could evacuate Kabul is really something Afghans could rally behind , evacuation would be much the same no matter the president presiding over the operation GTFO.

Yes but ANA did operations with the knowledge there was air cover and support.

There were "Taliban" casualties during that 18 months.

Nothing to effect leadership just tactical engagements.

The Taliban knew it would be strategic mistake on their part to attempt some meaningless tactical operation in response to meaningless ANA operations meant to give the appearance the ANG was viable.

Under Trump the operation would have been a "Retrograde Military Re-Positioning"

Under Biden it was an embarrassing rout in which the French are now hoping people will forget Dien Bien Phu.

Brits are lucky the allies eventually won so Dunkirk was written as a victory though they were just being weasels abandoning their French allies while the French died to allow them running room. To add insult the Brits than blamed the French for the debacle and have given us decades of "Never fired, dropped once" jokes.
 
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You left behind Afghans some of which might hold US passport, but folks had all the time in the world to GTFO since May, but no they had to go take holidays, school trips, visit friends and family in Afghanistan.


Some more sob stories to obsess about,
You are a real piece of shit personally as a human being, and an a real fucking idiot for buying this total bullshit about Americans choosing to stay in a terror state, being partners with the Taliban, that they were our allies in this defeat/retreat, and that it was a choice/mistake for the hundreds or thousands of hostages now in Afg. Honestly, we just heard your President's defiant speech declaring victory/success. Why do you think you need to come here and shill for him? What are you getting out of it? Honestly, I fucking hate you. No, really. I wouldn't spit in your mouth if you were dying of thirst. I think you are a pathetic excuse for a man and wish you nothing but pain and sorrow.
 
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Simple “fact” is, Taliban could not have taken over the country in the fashion and speed in which they did without local pop and local governmental support. The locals and the local governors (or whatever they’re called) were either already Taliban, sympathetic to the Taliban or hedged their bets and cut a deal with Taliban knowing we were leaving.

The Commandoes, and other who would fight are reforming in the north and probably about to kick off the next 30-40 years of fighting internally. How we help or don’t help them, I don’t know. I’m inclined to support them but we don’t have the best track record in this regard since the end of Vietnam.
 
Yep lots of ANA gear captured that if we intended to continue the joke that the ANA was viable we had to leave that gear in their grasp knowing full well it would be turned over to the Taliban.

Trump would have had to do the same.

Its why nation building is stupid.

Where was Pershing to lead the 10/2001 Punitive Expedition to Afghanistan?

Thats all our strategy goal should have been.
Taliban disappointed Kabul airport is not full of operational planes. Skip to 2:30
Do you think they can file a lawsuit in NY to claim damages for damage done to their gear? :devilish:

 
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Oh boy, here I go with another conspiracy theory.
I just can’t help feeling that this whole debacle was a debacle on purpose. You don’t need to be a military genius to figure out to pull the civies and support personal out before relenting and pulling back The troops. not to mention there is a way to pull back while still providing a strong threat. Why was no air support hitting the tally’s as they were making gains. How come we left all the money, weapons, equipment. At worst the money could have been set on fire and the weapons destroyed to one degree or another. no, this whole thing stinks and once again doesn’t pass the smell test. Even though, they want us to believe that this administration is a joke, you mean to tell me none of our military leaders objected or said why don’t we do this instead of that?
 
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Taliban disappointed Kabul airport is not full of operational planes. Skip to 2:30
Do you think they can file a lawsuit in NY to claim damages for damage done to their gear? :devilish:




When the ANA fell all gear became an "enemy weapons cache".

L/Cpls should have been ordered to conduct their military occupational specialty - Fuck Shit Up!

If this had been done there would be glove boxes closed on grenades with pins pulled just waiting to be opened and rifle barrels with .223 bullets pushed half way down.

Of course that is the action of a military that wants to win....not ours.
 
Oh boy, here I go with another conspiracy theory.
I just can’t help feeling that this whole debacle was a debacle on purpose. You don’t need to be a military genius to figure out to pull the civies and support personal out before relenting and pulling back The troops. not to mention there is a way to pull back while still providing a strong threat. Why was no air support hitting the tally’s as they were making gains. How come we left all the money, weapons, equipment. At worst the money could have been set on fire and the weapons destroyed to one degree or another. no, this whole thing stinks and once again doesn’t pass the smell test. Even though, they want us to believe that this administration is a joke, you mean to tell me none of our military leaders objected or said why don’t we do this instead of that?

Got to get rid of Joe somehow and now the republicans are more than willing to aid and abet the plan.

If they cared for the country they would be trying to expose the election fraud but instead we got the likes of Crenshaw defending it.

No they will be happy to see cameltoe take the reins and they will just send us emails for donations stating "if they can only win in 2022...."
 
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Quid pro quo?

Alexander Vindmann care to comment?

Only hopeful thing is that this was a real leak with real risks exposing a real danger.

Maybe not every peon in the swamp has ill intent for the USA.
 
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For 18 months you had a deal signed in Doha, Taliban leave you alone,you leave Taliban alone and troops leave Afghanistan , as simple as that .Hence no casualties. Indeed we should have withdrawn years ago. Trump did the right thing and MICMC is still pissed . 300mioS/per day pays for as many hookers and drugs Virgina , the homeland of MICMC can muster. Try as he might even Hunter Biden couldn't snort or fuck away,300mio for at least couple of decades.

ANA was going to collapse one way or another once the support and air power US and Nato troops provided was taken away. That was also part of the deal in Doha, so unless ANA magically found will to fight on its own, because holding the line so that foreigners could evacuate Kabul is really something Afghans could rally behind , evacuation would be much the same no matter the president presiding over the operation GTFO.

I disagree. Broad strokes were planned months ago, but the execution is a complete cluster fuck.

 
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This in spades.....

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Well played Taliban, well played.......

Not to be outdone, Biden thought he was reading from the same book.

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I just love it how intelligence services that we're the ones that fucked up the whole thing in the first place , leak these fake news bombshells to the media, at the same time these professionals leakers are never considered prosecutable while others are.
 
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Extraordinary success. 90% of our people got out.

To paraphrase Prince Bernard after the failure of Operation Market Garden and General Montgomery's claim of 90% success,
I strongly believe that our country, can never again afford the luxury of another Biden success.

 
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Was Austin a douche than also?
I think you are asking the wrong question.

It isn't a question regarding the balance of fragrances or the ratio of vinegar to water in any particular member of Raytheon's employee base.

The whole enterprise seems to have become a substance that a woman might use on a summer's eve when she's not feeling quite "fresh", you know....."down there"....

Raytheon’s ‘Stronger Together Employee Guide,’ should come with a disposable comfort applicator suitable for use in the front vagina or the back vagina...

....and maybe a ball-gag and gimp mask

Whole-Rufo-tweet_Ratheon-CRT-training-materials_equality-vs-equity.png


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In part, Cotton wrote, “The training materials in question, such as Raytheon’s ‘Stronger Together Employee Guide,’ encourage employees to become ‘anti-racists,’ a term popularized by Ibram X. Kendi, who the guide approvingly quotes. This material is rooted in a radical ideology called Critical Race Theory that denounces the United States as systemically racist and rejects important aspects of the American civil-rights tradition, including equality before the law.”

“Setting aside the business sense of your company’s advocacy, Raytheon’s employee trainings appear to violate Title VII of the Civil Rights Act, which forbids employers from discriminating on the basis of race or engaging in any activities that ‘limit, segregate, or classify’ employees,’”Cotton continued."




Cotton Demands Answers Regarding Raytheon Diversity ...

https://www.cotton.senate.gov/news/...answers-regarding-raytheon-diversity-training
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: James Arnold or Mary Collins Atkinson (202) 224-2353 July 13, 2021 . Cotton Demands Answers Regarding Raytheon Diversity Training. Washington, D.C. — Senator Tom Cotton (R-Arkansas) wrote a letter to Gregory Hayes, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Raytheon Company, demanding information about the company's use of training materials that rely heavily on ...

Raytheon Adopts Critical Race Theory | City Journal

https://www.city-journal.org/raytheon-adopts-critical-race-theory
Raytheon Technologies Corporation, the nation's second-largest defense contractor, has launched an "anti-racism" program that promotes critical race theory, rejects the principle of "equality," and instructs employees to "identify [their] privilege"—or else. Beginning last summer, the program, called Stronger Together ...

Raytheon CRT Training: White Employees "must work on ...

https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/...heir-privilege-and-step-aside-for-minorities/
Step down from your $21 million/year job and let a minority have it. Of course that won't happen. And the racist "anti-racism" training gets even worse. Raytheon employees are encouraged to avoid prayer because it's an example of white privilege. Or something.
 
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I think you are asking the wrong question.

It isn't a question regarding the balance of fragrances or the ratio of vinegar to water in any particular member of Raytheon's employee base.

The whole enterprise seems to have become a substance that a woman might use on a summer's eve when she's not feeling quite "fresh", you know....."down there"....

Raytheon’s ‘Stronger Together Employee Guide,’ should come with a disposable comfort applicator suitable for use in the front vagina or the back vagina...

....and maybe a ball-gag and gimp mask

Whole-Rufo-tweet_Ratheon-CRT-training-materials_equality-vs-equity.png


"
In part, Cotton wrote, “The training materials in question, such as Raytheon’s ‘Stronger Together Employee Guide,’ encourage employees to become ‘anti-racists,’ a term popularized by Ibram X. Kendi, who the guide approvingly quotes. This material is rooted in a radical ideology called Critical Race Theory that denounces the United States as systemically racist and rejects important aspects of the American civil-rights tradition, including equality before the law.”

“Setting aside the business sense of your company’s advocacy, Raytheon’s employee trainings appear to violate Title VII of the Civil Rights Act, which forbids employers from discriminating on the basis of race or engaging in any activities that ‘limit, segregate, or classify’ employees,’”Cotton continued."




Cotton Demands Answers Regarding Raytheon Diversity ...

https://www.cotton.senate.gov/news/...answers-regarding-raytheon-diversity-training
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: James Arnold or Mary Collins Atkinson (202) 224-2353 July 13, 2021 . Cotton Demands Answers Regarding Raytheon Diversity Training. Washington, D.C. — Senator Tom Cotton (R-Arkansas) wrote a letter to Gregory Hayes, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Raytheon Company, demanding information about the company's use of training materials that rely heavily on ...

Raytheon Adopts Critical Race Theory | City Journal

https://www.city-journal.org/raytheon-adopts-critical-race-theory
Raytheon Technologies Corporation, the nation's second-largest defense contractor, has launched an "anti-racism" program that promotes critical race theory, rejects the principle of "equality," and instructs employees to "identify [their] privilege"—or else. Beginning last summer, the program, called Stronger Together ...

Raytheon CRT Training: White Employees "must work on ...

https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/...heir-privilege-and-step-aside-for-minorities/
Step down from your $21 million/year job and let a minority have it. Of course that won't happen. And the racist "anti-racism" training gets even worse. Raytheon employees are encouraged to avoid prayer because it's an example of white privilege. Or something.


Raytheon has more money than me......I want Equity.

PS - Kid in Wheelchair looks to be in a precarious situation....Raytheon hates special needs people.
 
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