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Coin shortage, my ass.

Cashless society is in the works. Make sure you are flush with items that have real value and can be used for barter. Get as self sufficient as you can and don't leave your money in a savings/checking account where you cannot get it once there is a run on banks. The Marxists and globalists are playing for keeps while we have been asleep on the sidelines.
 
Credit cards are unreliable, I always carry cash
Can't count how many times I have been someplace buying something and the stupid credit card machine failed (just happened last week taking my kid for ice cream)
Its happened to me on vacation multiple times, make a charge and fucking card gets cut off by fraud protection (this has gotten better with technology, but still not perfect)
I had two credit cards shut off one after the other on a vacation trying to buy groceries in a fucking grocery store, and one of the credit cards had a note that I was traveling to the area on file.

Cash is king, anyone that thinks otherwise has been duped

If anyone refused my cash, I would take their refusal as my goods and services were free
My credit card number was stolen last month and I was using only cash while without it for a week waiting on the new one to arrive. It has happened in the past, but they overnighted me a new card. Said they couldn't overnight it this time because RONA.
 
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It’s pretty real at the retail level, my associate is an accountant for a grocery store chain on the west coast and they just bought all my change for 1.10 paper for 1.00 coin just to be able to continue business. Sure beats wrapping and taking to the bank.
 
The government wants a cashless society so there will be no more side jobs for anyone, ever have a plumber come over after hours for cash? It’s about half the price vs when he is in the company truck, get your lawn mowed by a neighborhood kid for $20 bucks, be sure to add taxes to that when you Venmo him some money. Ever have yard sale be sure to collect the sales tax.
 
Stack 'em deep. Better than sand bags.

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I call bullshit too. Same shit here at a local gas station, but nowhere else. Could be a logistics issue with whatever bank the business use, or the money transport company they use.
 
I think Venezuela tried that in rather recent history.....

Trust me, this will be a "fool proof" system, and at the head of it all will be the all time greatest confidence man in the history of humanity......and this ain't his first rodeo.
Pleased to meet you, hope you guessed my name...

 
Have a couple retail businesses that my wife runs, 100% card based. Pay approx 3% fees for the pleasure. They’re not making the money there though, it’s selling the data to experian who then target advertising at the consumer. Don’t meet the threshold for gross spend or shop at the right stores and the consumer doesn’t see the invitation to come in based on the demographic the business appeals to.

Have a local hardware that I like to go to. They’ve stopped taking cash or checks due to covid. Nothing to do with a coin shortage, just the whole scamdemic. What’s weird is that they still take my whatever I’m buying to scan it and then bag it. I’ve pointed out they irony to the checkers several times and they’re jus like whatever.

Lastly, totally agree with the others who say it’s about control on a macro scale to do cards only. One step deeper is that it’s about debasing currency all together. A lot easier to grant more credit than it is to print more money. Scary times ahead.
 
Forgot to add, BMA. Though I’m not sure how to do it over the internet without a CC. Prepaid card?
 
The reason for the coin shortage is the banks have their lobbies closed. You can not put rolls of coins in the tubes at the drive thru. A friend owns several car wash businesses and he has to make a special appointment to bring in the coins. He told me that a five gallon bucket holds about $4500 in quarters. I counted quite a few buckets at his place that were full to the top.
IIRC back in the 80's there was a strike or something and the coins were not being collected from the pay phones. It caused a coin shortage in California.

Your kidding about the drive through lanes right? Do your banks not have the commercial lane right next to the window. With the tray that opens out from the wall. The one where business people pull up to make their deposits and get change.
 
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Do you guys in the states get rid of your old coins or something? Its rarer than unicorn pussy to find a coin from the present year where I'm from. Sounds to me like there are people who don't want anyone paying with cash anymore
Nope, and the idea that there's some kinda "coin shortage" is ludicrous. I've gotten three -- three -- 1-cent coins in a handful of change that dated to the 1890s and every time I find a pre-1945 coin it goes into my opposite pocket and later dropped into a jar since I like to hold onto them for whatever reason. Distribution problems, yeah, I can figure that, but when you have coinage that's over 100 years old still circulating? Lol "coin shortage", indeed...
 
I would tell them exactly what you did. I agree 100%

You shouldn't have a fee and they shouldn't be able to refuse actual cash. It is your call what to use
A private business can set whatever form of payment they desire. If they want a customer to pay with fresh eggs and gunpowder, that is their choice . If you don’t like it, find someone else to trade with. Legal tender only means it is backed by the state, not they have to take it.
 
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Tinfoil coming your way

Yes, clearly no one is actually considering a cashless society...
 
Besides eliminating tax avoidance, a cashless system allows negative interest rates, which are negated by cash savings. It's kind of a long thing to explain here,but you can easily google up the advantage of negative interest to the central bankers. Not a good thing for us.
 
That's the line that everyone uses while the other lanes are empty.
Your kidding about the drive through lanes right? Do your banks not have the commercial lane right next to the window. With the tray that opens out from the wall. The one where business people pull up to make their deposits and get change.
We have a couple banks that won't take wrapped coins.
 
A private business can set whatever form of payment they desire. If they want a customer to pay with fresh eggs and gunpowder, that is their choice . If you don’t like it, find someone else to trade with. Legal tender only means it is backed by the state, not they have to take it.

While federal law does not require it yet. There are states with laws requiring merchants to take cash.
 
There have actually been several attempts here in the US in the last two years to "force" cashless payment. NY City barely turned down a resolution to allow "ONLY" plastic for all transactions. Couple of cities on the Left Coast tried that too and were shot down. The proffered resolution missed in NYC because there was too much resistance from the areas of high undocumented immigrant residents who "prefer" to pay cash. No, actually all the rich denizens of that urban hellhole are paying these illegals under the table in cash. But yeah the gov's tracking everything and has been for years. I don't have or need tin foil. My eyes were opened pretty wide during a job interview a the Federal Reserve. I've actually lost a debit/bank card from a company that warned me about gun purchases. Closed the account and moved all my business from them and told everyone I knew out there at the time about it. It is what it is and is coming, same as the marxist/socialist/communist crap happening before our eyes and there's not a damn thing we can do about it....just marking time until whatever happens next
 
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I don't see conspiracies behind it everything...we have had credit cards in existence as a convenience against carrying cash for most of my life. It is a convenience. It used to be store credit. Then came VISA and MC and then AMEX. Now you are telling me that it is a global conspiracy. Give me a break. The only insidious part of credit cards is that people are irresponsible and charge debt that they can't afford. I don't have that issue. You want to use cash, feel fucking free. I don't and I'll be damned to listen to you telling me why I can't

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you Wade...let's leave it at that.


The advent of credit cards was not a part of a conspiracy.

Its a convenient means of transaction. Fantastic insurance when travelling. Have a motor blow on your bike you have the means at hand to rent a UHaul box truck and get yourself home from PA to MA as I had to do.

At the onset the only conspiracy would be that they allowed consumers to purchase more than they would if they only had cash and higher interest rates could be charged - in other words CAPITALISM!

Its only recently that card companies have determined they will use their business in a manner counter to their intended purpose - CAPITALISM - in order to promote SJW causes.

I dont think this was entirely an internal corporate decision - in some measure it was, as the goals of the 1% align pretty much with those interested in crony capitalism. The Deep State, justice department and consumer financial protection bureau, especially the latter - during the last administration expressed what their goals are and what they expect from the card issuers - card issuers responded.

Next thing you know McMillan gets their long term bank association cancelled and peeps find some gun purchase attempts denied.

Remember one manufacturer being totally screwed because he sent product to customers than the payments were pulled back it was on him to try and recoup his losses through each individual customer hoping the customer would be sympathetic to the plight of the manufacturer.
 
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It’s called ...Tax Gap

$300-500 billion on taxes “lost” not paid by consumers every year.

The quicker we get on plastic the quicker the fed get all the money they expect.

They could easily get their taxes if they make the motherfuckers that don’t pay any actually have to give something. You know like only 50% of the country works and frankly we are tired of being taxed to death. How about they figure shit out instead of arbitrarily raising taxes. Nobody gets to go to their employer and say, hey my bills have gone up so I need more money. They have to figure out how to make it work. Everytime the Feds or someone need more money they raise taxes and the little man is the one that always pays the prices. Companies don’t care because they’ll either get some kind of tax relief, take benefits away or lower pay or some combination of the 3 to make up the difference. Same goes for people selling shit. Anyone that believes product prices are not adjusted based on taxes or extra costs associated with said product is an idiot. Trust me, the gov can do whatever they want, but big companies will always get their money. The little guy or the individual is always the ones that pay the price. Everyone else gets their money.

I realize some of that other 50% is kids or people that can’t work but you get what I mean. I’d like to know how many able people are not working...
 
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They could easily get their taxes if they make the motherfuckers that don’t pay any actually have to give something. You know like only 50% of the country works and frankly we are tired of being taxed to death. How about they figure shit out instead of arbitrarily raising taxes. Nobody gets to go to their employer and say, hey my bills have gone up so I need more money. They have to figure out how to make it work. Everytime the Feds or someone need more money they raise taxes and the little man is the one that always pays the prices. Companies don’t care because they’ll either get some kind of tax relief, take benefits away or lower pay or some combination of the 3 to make up the difference. Same goes for people selling shit. Anyone that believes product prices are not adjusted based on taxes or extra costs associated with said product is an idiot. Trust me, the gov can do whatever they want, but big companies will always get their money. The little guy or the individual is always the ones that pay the price. Everyone else gets their money.


No pandering in that scenario and if 100% have skin in the game they cant game people against each other to fuck us piecemeal.
 
Its only recently that card companies have determined they will use their business in a manner counter to their intended purpose - CAPITALISM - in order to promote SJW causes.

That is a completely different story. It is not unique to the credit card companies. Banks, retailers, etc are all guilty of adopting the SJW agenda. If you let that guide your life entirely, you soon will have nowhere to shop.

The reality is when dealing with retailers, your wallet does the talking. That is part of Capitalism. You shop where YOU choose.

As I said previously, the insidious part of credit cards is their easy granting of large credit lines to people that can afford it. People being what they are and wanting to keep up appearances fall for it. You then have the debt mess we have today.

I remember growing up at a time where you conducted MOST of your purchasing in the town you lived. Most places had in-store credit accounts and they kept you honest. You paid your monthly amount at the store. They were careful how much credit they extended. In many respects it was a better time.

I have no problem using credit cards to conduct my transactions. I pay them off every month and have no fees or interest and the ultimate in convenience.
 
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The problem with cashless is what happened in Greece a few years back. They froze accounts and drained 401ks to spread the wealth. It is straight up social conditioning. The future is cashless not for convenience but for control.



Bing Bing Bing Bing Bing.
When we had the hurricane a couple years ago, some folks needed firewood to cook their food.
Fortunately WE had power, we are on the same grid as the high school which housed the cops and firefighters, but otherwise they were screwed.
I use a card for fuel and business expenses, but that's it.
I ALWAYS have a good chunk of cash on me,
And other than business, we pay cash and buy local
 
The problem with cashless is what happened in Greece a few years back. They froze accounts and drained 401ks to spread the wealth. It is straight up social conditioning. The future is cashless not for convenience but for control.
What??

Hate to disagree but being that half my relatives live there and this redistribution has never been mentioned, I question that highly.

They froze accounts due to the Germans requiring repayment against the loans which they defaulted on due to its oppressive impact to the economy. If you lived there and had anything on the ball, you had cash, if not...oh well. Most Greeks hoard cash..including myself. That is why I am a big advocate of keeping cash on hand in large amounts for just this type of emergency
 
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What??

Hate to disagree but being that half my relatives live there and this redistribution has never been mentioned, I question that highly.

They froze accounts due to the Germans requiring repayment against the loans which they defaulted on due to its oppressive impact to the economy. If you lived there and had anything on the ball, you had cash, if not...oh well. Most Greeks hoard cash..including myself. That is why I am a big advocate of keeping cash on hand in large amounts for just this type of emergency
Probably meant Cyprus.

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Tik Tok is a Chinese Army intel operation.

I would bet that Zoom also is......

But everybody wants to use it without a second thought......

Oh and all these "convenient" remote desktop programs for every home idiot to setup.......
 
What??

Hate to disagree but being that half my relatives live there and this redistribution has never been mentioned, I question that highly.

They froze accounts due to the Germans requiring repayment against the loans which they defaulted on due to its oppressive impact to the economy. If you lived there and had anything on the ball, you had cash, if not...oh well. Most Greeks hoard cash..including myself. That is why I am a big advocate of keeping cash on hand in large amounts for just this type of emergency

yeah, that is the redistribution. The loans were in default because of the unfettered spending.

but I agree about cash on hand, and other intrinsic value items. I use my card all the time, rarely have cash on me, but I have a couple months worth in the safe and money much more in savings.
 
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Credit cards are unreliable, I always carry cash
Can't count how many times I have been someplace buying something and the stupid credit card machine failed (just happened last week taking my kid for ice cream)
Its happened to me on vacation multiple times, make a charge and fucking card gets cut off by fraud protection (this has gotten better with technology, but still not perfect)
I had two credit cards shut off one after the other on a vacation trying to buy groceries in a fucking grocery store, and one of the credit cards had a note that I was traveling to the area on file.

Cash is king, anyone that thinks otherwise has been duped

If anyone refused my cash, I would take their refusal as my goods and services were free
So you would be a thief. It is up to the seller as to what form of payment they will accept in trade. Don’t like it , too bad.
 
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No pandering in that scenario and if 100% have skin in the game they cant game people against each other to fuck us piecemeal.
And no automatic withholding out of your check, make everyone write a check for the tax’s every pay period so the dumb MFr’s realize how much the gov is taking to give to the lazy
 
So you would be a thief. It is up to the seller as to what form of payment they will accept in trade. Don’t like it , too bad.
Nope. All bills say legal tender for any debts, public or private.. we are talking about American businesses that charge tax right? Cause only your black market drug dealer has the right to specify payment.
 
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It says that, but there is no law that states they must take said money. Except in a few states. The article i read about it also there is a law in congress to require businesses to take cash. Just google it.