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Could the Chicoms have created the virus.

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My thoughts are that the Communist bastards in China created this as part of a biological weapons development program, they lost control of it, and it went sideways from there. I think the slopes have a cure for it but are holding out for the world governments to weaken enough for a takeover. They need our food sources to feed their starving masses, along with the natural resources.
 
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Yes, if it was intentionally released, but that may not be the case. An accidental release could have occured and then been controlled, limiting the amount of material that was allowed to escape. Also, this is not close to being over by a long shot.
 
Engineered biological weapons kill more than ~2%.

Depends on what you want it to do. You can't rule over the masses if you kill them all, there won't be any workers. This virus (whether engineered or natural) is kind of a perfect weapon - bringing the world to its knees without killing many, and being totally deniable. If you had studied it ahead, knew everything about it, then released it and planned to take a small, survivable hit in return for dealing everyone else in the world a devastating economic blow, it would set you up to reap the harvest. The casualties you chose to accept on the front end only add to your deniability.

I'm not saying that's what happened, but it is certainly within the realm of possibility. Anyone who knows about the Korean War knows the Chicoms have no problem with using thousands of their own as expendable war materiel.
 
Here is one take on it
Bats live with Corona/ SARS/ MERS and are not negatively impacted by the virus.

China is studying the Bats to learn why... research is near where they sell bats

Could it be a weapon- Sure
Vaccinate china or it's military and release the bug to cause economic chaos...

 
i think the chicoms were researching how viruses in bats can transmit to humans, and they figured it out and lost control.
whether the goal was to develop a weapon or a cure is relevant, but it could be both.
 
Engineered biological weapons kill more than ~2%.


Unless it was an agent developed primarily for nuisance use... Biologicals have several grades of potency, from highly lethal agents specifically designed to kill off an enemy's population center as the ultimate 'fuck you', to low level nuisance agents that are just lethal enough to instill civil unrest, panic, martial law and other fuckery that will weaken the target country enough to allow for an insidious takeover by the country that launched it. A nuisance agent can even be deployed by a totalitarian state onto it's own people so the government can swoop in, remove any remaining freedoms and rights in the name of safety, and still be hailed by their people as saviors...
 
I'm calling it the communist virus. The commies created it. They killed off some of their population, which communism can't support. They squelched the protesters. They may have sent it here as a response to Trump's trade policies. Our politicians are using it to get the sheep to beg for communism here.
 
If this were a bioweapon? It would be a fear weapon not a mass destruction weapon. Just because it originated in China does not mean it was a weapon of China. It could be the weapon of another State or Group trying to implicate China. The simplest answer is; it is not a weapon, it is natural. If it were a weapon we will never know unless it leads to war.

Even if true, that it is not a weapon. China seems to have weaponized the response by giving false and incomplete info. This alone is a dangerous thing that could be interpreted as an act of war. So if it was not a weapon, it is now.
 
"Could" ? Sure, they could have.

"Could" one of user BigFatCock's assignations have given him the clap ? Sure, but, which one...

"Could" my wife put out tonight ? Sure, but THAT ain't gonna happen....

"Could" is soooo speculative... almost as much fun as, "What is the probability the Chinese gave us the virus?".

I'd rather see if user BigFatCock has figured out which assignation gave him the clap, cross her off the list, and explore the possibility that one of his castoffs will fill in the wife's slack here.

"Could" happen, but what's the probability?

Shit that I'm not going to worry about... just sayin... movin on...

Ahhh, user BigFatCock, asking for a friend, would you ...... ?
 
"Could" ? Sure, they could have.

"Could" one of user BigFatCock's assignations have given him the clap ? Sure, but, which one...

"Could" my wife put out tonight ? Sure, but THAT ain't gonna happen....

"Could" is soooo speculative... almost as much fun as, "What is the probability the Chinese gave us the virus?".

I'd rather see if user BigFatCock has figured out which assignation gave him the clap, cross her off the list, and explore the possibility that one of his castoffs will fill in the wife's slack here.

"Could" happen, but what's the probability?

Shit that I'm not going to worry about... just sayin... movin on...

Ahhh, user BigFatCock, asking for a friend, would you ...... ?
I can see you're a grumpy fucker when you don't get laid.
 
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They DID create it by implementing incentives for starving peasants to raise wild animals for meat in the late 1970s and early 1980s when there was famine and people were starving. It became part of their culture, and they just kept doing it despite SARS, and MERS and the known dangers of these open bush-meat markets. So, toss all the bio-weapons conspiracy theories, because this has been predicted for decades as a ”when not if” scenario. They did do this, and then suppressed it and lied about it so it infected the world. They are 100% responsible for doing this, and for making sure it impacted the whole world.

Communism lies by default. It is a broken and faulty ideology from its very premise, and it relies on lies, deception, and force to keep the lords in power over the serfs. Our first mistake was pretending they aren’t a communist , totalitarian enemy. We should not trade with them. That was a failure. The communist lords got wealthy at the expense of our own middle class, and they did not reform their political system. Communists should be shot in the face. That’s how every single one of them Should be dealt with (including our own).
 
Here is one take on it
Bats live with Corona/ SARS/ MERS and are not negatively impacted by the virus.

China is studying the Bats to learn why... research is near where they sell bats

Could it be a weapon- Sure
Vaccinate china or it's military and release the bug to cause economic chaos...


An article written by a foreign health official claims there is a money trail coming from a Soros organization directly to Wuhan China. That would certainly explain the timing of the pandemic with the upcoming election.
 
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Link to that article please.


And yes. This is manufactured by the commies.

And yes, dont let it ruin you.

Has gotten in the way of a few of my activites, which has made me a tad grumpy too! ?

Plus my folks have now lived with me for 3 weeks. Love em to death, very grateful for their help, and DANG thats a long time!!!
 
Link to that article please.


And yes. This is manufactured by the commies.

And yes, dont let it ruin you.

Has gotten in the way of a few of my activites, which has made me a tad grumpy too! ?

Plus my folks have now lived with me for 3 weeks. Love em to death, very grateful for their help, and DANG thats a long time!!!


Link to that article please.


And yes. This is manufactured by the commies.

And yes, dont let it ruin you.

Has gotten in the way of a few of my activites, which has made me a tad grumpy too! ?

Plus my folks have now lived with me for 3 weeks. Love em to death, very grateful for their help, and DANG thats a long time!!!
 
Or could be the US soldiers inadvertently brought to China?



 
Or could be the US soldiers inadvertently brought to China?





Lookee here we have a chink agent
 
Trial run by Chinese to see how effective a bioweapon will be to bring the US to is knees. No need to nuke the country and make it uninhabitable. Just let a pandemic run its course. Bring in their citizens who have been vaccinated and viola, China has living space as they take over the USA.
 
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"Could" ? Sure, they could have.

"Could" one of user BigFatCock's assignations have given him the clap ? Sure, but, which one...

"Could" my wife put out tonight ? Sure, but THAT ain't gonna happen....

"Could" is soooo speculative... almost as much fun as, "What is the probability the Chinese gave us the virus?".

I'd rather see if user BigFatCock has figured out which assignation gave him the clap, cross her off the list, and explore the possibility that one of his castoffs will fill in the wife's slack here.

"Could" happen, but what's the probability?

Shit that I'm not going to worry about... just sayin... movin on...

Ahhh, user BigFatCock, asking for a friend, would you ...... ?
I’m tellin ya man. U don’t want the walrus virus! On the other hand, their dental bills are real cheap? on the other hand, her feed bill is high!
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Lookee here we have a chink agent


I remember a thread last year where that fella said that suppressors should not be legal, and continued sticking to his stance even after several other board members politely reminded him of the type of community that he is in right now...

A lot of times I even forget how much salt to sprinkle in a particular dish... But when it comes to our rights to own firearms and their related accoutrements, and any attempts against those rights, I have a very long memory...
 
who knows , I was thinking for a while it was that gift that north Korea was promising to give , but where it started or who started it at this point seems less important to me than just stopping the spread or making enough of something to treat it , to me it's like worrying who owns a house while its on fire save the house then worry about who owns it . I just want people who are sick well again and no one else to loose anyone near to them or me for all its worth .
 
Don't think it was intentional for 2 reasons; it started in China, and when compared to other bio weapons, its a total joke.

I also don't think the 'success' of it, if intended to be released as a weapon, would have on paper been anywhere near the economic destruction its actually causing. So why fire a shot, when the best case 'win' would be a solid meh?

The economic issues this has caused are something akin to what was said after 9/11 in that bin laden never dreamed that we would fuck ourselves as badly as we did in the months/years after the attack. Much of the same now, in that our 'reaction' to this is 100 times worse than the actual thing; no one could have foreseen that.

This is due to shit tier China level people doing shit tier China level things at the Wuhan bio facility and someone brought it out with them. The real crime here is that China knew about this since Q4 2019, constantly lied about it, did next to nothing to deter it, spent more time on propaganda and cutting off the internet to those trying to warn everyone else and then acted surprised when it became a pandemic.
 
Don't think it was intentional for 2 reasons; it started in China, and when compared to other bio weapons, its a total joke.

I also don't think the 'success' of it, if intended to be released as a weapon, would have on paper been anywhere near the economic destruction its actually causing. So why fire a shot, when the best case 'win' would be a solid meh?

The economic issues this has caused are something akin to what was said after 9/11 in that bin laden never dreamed that we would fuck ourselves as badly as we did in the months/years after the attack. Much of the same now, in that our 'reaction' to this is 100 times worse than the actual thing; no one could have foreseen that.

This is due to shit tier China level people doing shit tier China level things at the Wuhan bio facility and someone brought it out with them. The real crime here is that China knew about this since Q4 2019, constantly lied about it, did next to nothing to deter it, spent more time on propaganda and cutting off the internet to those trying to warn everyone else and then acted surprised when it became a pandemic.

And took advantage of the opportunity in the confusion it caused, probably being the country that, as a country, will suffer the least (? On the nork suffering as a country), as far their historical standard of living goes, as a whole. (I probably didnt say that as clearly as it is meant- country effect)
 
Well one way or another’s this bull shit seems to stem from China. Trump should say “ chy na, you cause this and we’re not paying the debt we owe you. Wiped clean”

Let’s get this dance started. Time to go head to head with these commies

We talked about this in another thread, but what you're proposing doing is undermining the full faith and credit of the United States. I don't care who the enemy is; that's no bueno.

Our best revenge against China would be taking them out of the international chain of commerce. Between us and Europe (and any allies in SE Asia, the middle east, and Africa that want to get out from under China's thumb), we need a massive effort to rebuild and restore our ability to produce important shit. China doesn't have any magical powers; we just decided as a culture that it's somehow better to save a few bucks on everyday products and undermine our labor market while lining the pockets of the rich, and China provided a convenient mechanism for accomplishing this task. They put themselves in massive debt and are incredible vulnerable right now.

If we're going to go spend trillions on stimulus - and I bet the bill is over $10T by the time we're through this mess - then let's spend it on a WWII-level of industrialization. I wanna see new chemical plants being build to manufacture pharmaceuticals. I want to see rebirth of the steel industry. I don't ever want to touch another piece of consumer electronics that says "Made in China". And if for some really good reason we can't do it here, then I at least want to buy stuff from countries that are aligned with our worldview and way of life.

But we have to be damn careful not to trigger any loss of confidence in our debt instruments in the process, especially since we're going to issue a lot more debt in the near future :(
 
We talked about this in another thread, but what you're proposing doing is undermining the full faith and credit of the United States. I don't care who the enemy is; that's no bueno.

Our best revenge against China would be taking them out of the international chain of commerce. Between us and Europe (and any allies in SE Asia, the middle east, and Africa that want to get out from under China's thumb), we need a massive effort to rebuild and restore our ability to produce important shit. China doesn't have any magical powers; we just decided as a culture that it's somehow better to save a few bucks on everyday products and undermine our labor market while lining the pockets of the rich, and China provided a convenient mechanism for accomplishing this task. They put themselves in massive debt and are incredible vulnerable right now.

If we're going to go spend trillions on stimulus - and I bet the bill is over $10T by the time we're through this mess - then let's spend it on a WWII-level of industrialization. I wanna see new chemical plants being build to manufacture pharmaceuticals. I want to see rebirth of the steel industry. I don't ever want to touch another piece of consumer electronics that says "Made in China". And if for some really good reason we can't do it here, then I at least want to buy stuff from countries that are aligned with our worldview and way of life.

But we have to be damn careful not to trigger any loss of confidence in our debt instruments in the process, especially since we're going to issue a lot more debt in the near future :(

How about just knocking off a few billion as part of the tab?
 
We got their full faith and credit payment in silos out in the Dakotas

We were saving this one for Ivan, but here’s one for you quang
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It's not time to press the send button, yet.

It took the U.S. two years to tool up to jump full speed into WW2, and that was without a murderous coronavirus killing people, and while we had the infrastructure in place to be independent.

Until we get some of that back "on-shore", tooled up, and running smoothly, and structured enough to handle the pandemic casualties PLUS the casualties that will come when 'chang' sends us several back, that hit the infrastructure we need to survive on now,

It's just not the right time to press send. So, learn some patience, volunteer to work in the front line forces, and help us get ready for send.

Our country depends on our people doing ^^^ that willingly. 'Quang's country does it at gunpoint and already has way more ready than us.

Life just ain't always pretty sometimes and we have to wait for Santa Claus to come when its appropriate. It ain't Christmas yet....
 
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"Could" ? Sure, they could have.

"Could" one of user BigFatCock's assignations have given him the clap ? Sure, but, which one...

"Could" my wife put out tonight ? Sure, but THAT ain't gonna happen....

"Could" is soooo speculative... almost as much fun as, "What is the probability the Chinese gave us the virus?".

I'd rather see if user BigFatCock has figured out which assignation gave him the clap, cross her off the list, and explore the possibility that one of his castoffs will fill in the wife's slack here.

"Could" happen, but what's the probability?

Shit that I'm not going to worry about... just sayin... movin on...

Ahhh, user BigFatCock, asking for a friend, would you ...... ?


If BFC got the clap and you take one of his sloppy seconds well than wouldnt that in turn mean BFC hit you with a bio weapon just as covid 19 is a bio weapon?
 
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If BFC got the clap and you take one of his sloppy secondswell than wouldnt that in turn mean BFC hit you with a bio weapon just as covid 19 is a bio weapon?

If he gives me the name of one HE infected, surely will. And, IF I dont take reasonable precautions, and shower with my shoes on, just sayin...
But, if he gives me the name of one after he got full quality curative treatment and she has a health card, might be a little less risky, but, still need some reasonable precautions even then.

I wondered how long it would take somebody to see what I threw out there.

To get to the risk and reasonable precautions point without getting hammered n called a dumbass.
 
If he gives me the name of one HE infected, surely will. And, IF I dont take reasonable precautions, and shower with my shoes on, just sayin...
But, if he gives me the name of one after he got full quality curative treatment and she has a health card, might be a little less risky, but, still need some reasonable precautions even then.

I wondered how long it would take somebody to see what I threw out there.

To get to the risk and reasonable precautions point without getting hammered n called a dumbass.


No offense to BFC but in this world of fish........find one that hast been loaded with his creme fraiche.