This is a long read but this is an ALL TIME CLASSIC!
Jason Lu...(aka Smokin here on the Hide) man you are a great sport and if we didn't like you as much as we do ...we wouldn't screw with you like we do.
The best thing about this was it wasn't planned at all. Jason B (aka 4thSeal) just threw it out there and we went from there........ Jason is Medic76 below.
This whole deal happened via IM while chatting about what Jason B. was getting done to his rifles @ Jerry Newman’s shop.
jasonlu says:
What are you getting done?
[email protected] says:
He is changing the bolt fluid on my actions.
jasonlu says:
WTF?
Vu says:
Don’t u do that on your surgeons?
Change the bolt fluid?
Tell me u do man
For fuck sake tell me u do.
jasonlu says:
WTF
u 2 are full of shit
Vu says:
Inside the bolt body
ok
have u taken the firing pin
all the way apart?
jasonlu says:
yes
well taken the pin out of hte bolt,..yes
Vu says:
Not just out…. APART
jasonlu says:
no
Vu says:
So u really never had it all apart?
[email protected] says:
Allows for less friction and faster lock time
Vu says:
Well not only that
jasonlu says:
There is fluid INSIDE the pin?
Vu says:
But u know how mercury recoil thing works right?
jasonlu says:
no
Vu says:
OK
Imagine this……
[email protected] says:
I had a mercury guild rod in my Glock
It’s nice
Vu says:
You have a pipe....
[email protected] says:
Less recoil
Vu says:
It’s only filled half with fluid.
What happens when u shake it?
jasonlu says:
momentum
Vu says:
EXACTLY!
Now imagine that in your firing pin assembly.
[email protected] says:
Changing the fluid keeps from having a light primer strike
Vu says:
I have it on my KMW and GAP
All of them.
jasonlu says:
So they drill out the pin and put fluid in it?
Vu says:
It’s hollow
Machined process
jasonlu says:
Too much work
[email protected] says:
But you can’t do it at home, needs to be tig welded up, and the mercury is toxic and will fuck you up
jasonlu says:
Mine is fine the way it is
Now I have to call Surgeon and ask for them to do that on my action that I’m getting on Friday
[email protected] says:
So your happy with 3 out of 9 matches? Might be why your shots are inconsistent
If it has been a while
Vu says:
Hold up
You meant u ordered it without?
Man….
jasonlu says:
I didn’t even know it’s an option
Never heard of that shit before…..NEVER
Vu says:
Really?
[email protected] says:
Jerry told me about it, I didn’t know till he told me
Vu says:
Tell u what
Don’t call surgeon bro
I’d call Jerry up
cheaper
probably faster
Just tell him u want your firing pin bolt lube changed
Like you did for Jason Boak, Vu, and the rest of the boys
jasonlu says:
How much?
Do I just send him my bolt?
[email protected] says:
Like 50 bucks plus shipping
Vu says:
Yup
Just the bolt
[email protected] says:
He just needs the bolt
Vu says:
You have a few different options
There is medium weight
Light weight
jasonlu2 says:
What’s the benefit?
Vu says:
and extra heavy weight
Well….
[email protected] says:
Do you want Jerry’s number?
jasonlu says:
what did you do?
Vu says:
Extra heavy = more momentum right? And it takes the vibration out of the wobble in the pin
jasonlu says:
Why would anyone go light then?
[email protected] says:
Faster
Vu says:
Consistent burns
harder hitting
like cold starts on your motor type of deal
[email protected] says:
Heavy hits harder, for hard primers
Light is faster for fast lock times
Vu:
You ever have a round not fire?
Due to cold?
jasonlu says:
yes, in phoenix.
Vu says:
like so fucken cold the mother fucker won’t go off
Well heavy weight lube helps
jasonlu says:
but not due to cold obvious
jasonlu says:
I think it was a bad primer
Vu says:
well thats different
we talkin
like COLD
ass freezin cold
jasonlu says:
never shot in that cold weather
Vu says:
yah
call up jerry bro
jasonlu says:
I lived in TX and shoot in Sac..doestn get cold
whats his #?
Vu says:
XXX-XXX-XXXX
jasonlu says:
I’ll send him my shit today
[email protected] says:
XXX.XXX.XXXX or XXX.XXX.XXXX are his numbers
jasonlu says:
what state does he live in?
Vu says:
0097 is the best number
Oklahoma
He actually pioneered the process
jasonlu says:
Why don’t more people talk about it?
Vu says:
It’s like well kind of a trade secret
a few know about it but you know…
Keep it on the down low
Only a few do it right because if u don’t do it right
fucks up the harmonics of the firing pin
jasonlu says:
Why don’t you just use a heavier spring?
Vu says:
Think about it
You can only use so much of a heavy spring
JasonLu says:
and then dampen it to take care of the harmonics?
Vu says:
yah
well
ok
springs right
[email protected] says:
heavy springs add to the harmonics
Vu says:
what makes them heavier?
bigger coils
heavier steel
[email protected] says:
tighter etc
Vu says:
You can only fit so much in a bolt
jasonlu says:
How fast can he turn that around?
Vu says:
Not like u can shove a car size spring like a in a bolt.
Dude a week if that
[email protected] says:
3 days soon as he gets it
Vu says:
Call jerry
jasonlu says:
Too late?
Vu says:
Tell him Vu and Jason said u can hook me up
Nah
jasonlu says:
calling
[email protected] says:
He works from home
As most of you have guessed, Jerry Newman of Newman Precision got a pretty weird phone call yesterday afternoon. After work I called Jerry up to explain to him WTF a bolt lube change was and he had a good chuckle.
Jason Lu...(aka Smokin here on the Hide) man you are a great sport and if we didn't like you as much as we do ...we wouldn't screw with you like we do.
The best thing about this was it wasn't planned at all. Jason B (aka 4thSeal) just threw it out there and we went from there........ Jason is Medic76 below.
This whole deal happened via IM while chatting about what Jason B. was getting done to his rifles @ Jerry Newman’s shop.
jasonlu says:
What are you getting done?
[email protected] says:
He is changing the bolt fluid on my actions.
jasonlu says:
WTF?
Vu says:
Don’t u do that on your surgeons?
Change the bolt fluid?
Tell me u do man
For fuck sake tell me u do.
jasonlu says:
WTF
u 2 are full of shit
Vu says:
Inside the bolt body
ok
have u taken the firing pin
all the way apart?
jasonlu says:
yes
well taken the pin out of hte bolt,..yes
Vu says:
Not just out…. APART
jasonlu says:
no
Vu says:
So u really never had it all apart?
[email protected] says:
Allows for less friction and faster lock time
Vu says:
Well not only that
jasonlu says:
There is fluid INSIDE the pin?
Vu says:
But u know how mercury recoil thing works right?
jasonlu says:
no
Vu says:
OK
Imagine this……
[email protected] says:
I had a mercury guild rod in my Glock
It’s nice
Vu says:
You have a pipe....
[email protected] says:
Less recoil
Vu says:
It’s only filled half with fluid.
What happens when u shake it?
jasonlu says:
momentum
Vu says:
EXACTLY!
Now imagine that in your firing pin assembly.
[email protected] says:
Changing the fluid keeps from having a light primer strike
Vu says:
I have it on my KMW and GAP
All of them.
jasonlu says:
So they drill out the pin and put fluid in it?
Vu says:
It’s hollow
Machined process
jasonlu says:
Too much work
[email protected] says:
But you can’t do it at home, needs to be tig welded up, and the mercury is toxic and will fuck you up
jasonlu says:
Mine is fine the way it is
Now I have to call Surgeon and ask for them to do that on my action that I’m getting on Friday
[email protected] says:
So your happy with 3 out of 9 matches? Might be why your shots are inconsistent
If it has been a while
Vu says:
Hold up
You meant u ordered it without?
Man….
jasonlu says:
I didn’t even know it’s an option
Never heard of that shit before…..NEVER
Vu says:
Really?
[email protected] says:
Jerry told me about it, I didn’t know till he told me
Vu says:
Tell u what
Don’t call surgeon bro
I’d call Jerry up
cheaper
probably faster
Just tell him u want your firing pin bolt lube changed
Like you did for Jason Boak, Vu, and the rest of the boys
jasonlu says:
How much?
Do I just send him my bolt?
[email protected] says:
Like 50 bucks plus shipping
Vu says:
Yup
Just the bolt
[email protected] says:
He just needs the bolt
Vu says:
You have a few different options
There is medium weight
Light weight
jasonlu2 says:
What’s the benefit?
Vu says:
and extra heavy weight
Well….
[email protected] says:
Do you want Jerry’s number?
jasonlu says:
what did you do?
Vu says:
Extra heavy = more momentum right? And it takes the vibration out of the wobble in the pin
jasonlu says:
Why would anyone go light then?
[email protected] says:
Faster
Vu says:
Consistent burns
harder hitting
like cold starts on your motor type of deal
[email protected] says:
Heavy hits harder, for hard primers
Light is faster for fast lock times
Vu:
You ever have a round not fire?
Due to cold?
jasonlu says:
yes, in phoenix.
Vu says:
like so fucken cold the mother fucker won’t go off
Well heavy weight lube helps
jasonlu says:
but not due to cold obvious
jasonlu says:
I think it was a bad primer
Vu says:
well thats different
we talkin
like COLD
ass freezin cold
jasonlu says:
never shot in that cold weather
Vu says:
yah
call up jerry bro
jasonlu says:
I lived in TX and shoot in Sac..doestn get cold
whats his #?
Vu says:
XXX-XXX-XXXX
jasonlu says:
I’ll send him my shit today
[email protected] says:
XXX.XXX.XXXX or XXX.XXX.XXXX are his numbers
jasonlu says:
what state does he live in?
Vu says:
0097 is the best number
Oklahoma
He actually pioneered the process
jasonlu says:
Why don’t more people talk about it?
Vu says:
It’s like well kind of a trade secret
a few know about it but you know…
Keep it on the down low
Only a few do it right because if u don’t do it right
fucks up the harmonics of the firing pin
jasonlu says:
Why don’t you just use a heavier spring?
Vu says:
Think about it
You can only use so much of a heavy spring
JasonLu says:
and then dampen it to take care of the harmonics?
Vu says:
yah
well
ok
springs right
[email protected] says:
heavy springs add to the harmonics
Vu says:
what makes them heavier?
bigger coils
heavier steel
[email protected] says:
tighter etc
Vu says:
You can only fit so much in a bolt
jasonlu says:
How fast can he turn that around?
Vu says:
Not like u can shove a car size spring like a in a bolt.
Dude a week if that
[email protected] says:
3 days soon as he gets it
Vu says:
Call jerry
jasonlu says:
Too late?
Vu says:
Tell him Vu and Jason said u can hook me up
Nah
jasonlu says:
calling
[email protected] says:
He works from home
As most of you have guessed, Jerry Newman of Newman Precision got a pretty weird phone call yesterday afternoon. After work I called Jerry up to explain to him WTF a bolt lube change was and he had a good chuckle.