Dmr/ precision ar type trigger

[LeftyJason]

I have my ar. Originally built 2010ish and been changing parts out to update it over time. Quad rail is now a strike mlok, comp switched for thunderbeast flash hider to ultra 7 Gen 1. Leupold mark ar 3-9 switched to vortex strike fire to nothing currently but going 2.5-15 direction.

Latest Pic. Vert grip gone, pic rail gone replaced by mdt arca rail this week, strike fire off on something else.

Currently has a 3lb timney competition single stage. Bought it without knowing much. Looking at going more 2 stage cause it would be nice to be able to touch the trigger and know I'm on without it going off.

What do you all use on your more precision type rigs?

Have done some searching in this forum but haven't seen much about some of the options. Triggertech duty vs competitive, timney targa short vs long, or any of the others.

 

[oldrifleman]

My precision rifles all wear Trigger tech Diamond 2 stage triggers.

 

[Graves14]

TT 2 stage or Geissele SDE would be my top choices

 

[davsco]

geissele ssa-e two-stage on my AR's that i use for some level of precision. incl 2-3 gun from blasting real close to 500yds, and my 224 valk for gas gun matches.

 

[fedupflyer]

Just came in to say trigger tech.

 

[LeftyJason]

My precision rifles all wear Trigger tech Diamond 2 stage triggers.

Set to what weight?

 

[oldrifleman]

Set to what weight?

These are on my Precision ARs and are 2.25-2.5lb

 

[LeftyJason]

Just came in to say trigger tech.

Which one?

 

[drew_eckhardt]

I have a Geissele Hi Speed in my .308 AR. Currently it has the match rifle springs, but I'm switching back to the DMR springs.

• DMR: 1st stage: 2.5 - 3.6 lbs, Total: 3.0 - 5.1 lbs.
• Match Rifle: 1st stage: 1.5 - 2.5 lbs, Total: 1.9 - 3.4 lbs

 

[simonp]

The Geissele hi speed trigger is the way to go in my opinion, though it will spoil you and you wont want to use any other geiselle after that one lol

 

[Stugots]

I have 4 AR15's all with Geissele National Match triggers. And 1 with a Rise Iconic trigger. To be honest, I like the Rise Iconic slightly better than the Geissele N.M.

 

[WeR0206]

I have my ar. Originally built 2010ish and been changing parts out to update it over time. Quad rail is now a strike mlok, comp switched for thunderbeast flash hider to ultra 7 Gen 1. Leupold mark ar 3-9 switched to vortex strike fire to nothing currently but going 2.5-15 direction.

Latest Pic. Vert grip gone, pic rail gone replaced by mdt arca rail this week, strike fire off on something else.
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Currently has a 3lb timney competition single stage. Bought it without knowing much. Looking at going more 2 stage cause it would be nice to be able to touch the trigger and know I'm on without it going off.

What do you all use on your more precision type rigs?

Have done some searching in this forum but haven't seen much about some of the options. Triggertech duty vs competitive, timney targa short vs long, or any of the others.

Here’s my list of solid AR dmr type triggers:

• Geissele SSA-E X Trigger (lighter pull than SSA X) ($200)
• Geissele Super Dynamic Enhanced (flat, 2 stage) ($175)
• Geissele High Speed 2 Stage Trigger (with DMR spring kit) ($200)
• Geissele SSA X Trigger (more duty oriented than SSA-E X) ($200)
• TriggerTech AR-15 Duty Trigger: 3.5 lbs, 2 stage, flat ($130)
• LaRue MBT 2 Stage Flat ($86)

Note there are Memorial weekend sales going on right now at geissele, primary arms, etc..

 

[carbonbased]

I have 4 AR15's all with Geissele National Match triggers. And 1 with a Rise Iconic trigger. To be honest, I like the Rise Iconic slightly better than the Geissele N.M.

I have a Geissele National Match as well. I probably could’ve just gotten one of their non-adjustable two stagers. Can’t remember which one(s?) that would be…their naming conventions confuse me lol including their rifle naming.

 

[ironhiide]

Triggertech Diamond 2-stage, total weight set to 2.25lb

 

[TonyTheTiger]

I've got a bunch of single stages and quite a few 2 stage triggers, and for the life of me I can't figure out why people choose to die on one hill or the other.
Unless you're a monkey, you should be able to use either.

 

[roostercogburn98]

I have a gun eerily similar to yours. It has one of the old school triggertech frictionless two stages set to 3.5 pounds in it. It has served the gun well as it developed into what it is now. She is an oinker, but shoots well

-Triggertech 3.5# two stage
-Mega upper and lower
-Strike Industries Gridlock HG
-Superlative Arms adjustable GB
-18 inch bartlein 1-7:7 twist with Seekins bolt headspaced using a WOA competition length barrel extension.
-Gen 3 PRS, standar A2 buffer and Tubb flatwire spring
-ZCO 420 in Badger Max mount

 

[TheOE800]

I use Geissele HSNM with DMR springs in my dedicated precision rigs. Everything else has SSA-X.

 

[JR1200W3]

I've got a bunch of single stages and quite a few 2 stage triggers, and for the life of me I can't figure out why people choose to die on one hill or the other.
Unless you're a monkey, you should be able to use either.

I can use a two stage trigger just fine but the philosophical concept of it pisses me off. It's like having to be somewhere 10 mins prior to 10 mins prior to make sure that you're early. Just tell me the time and I'll be there. There's zero difference between the second stage and a normal single stage trigger. I don't need 2lbs of nothing to press through just to get to the wall that's going to break and release the hammer...the same as if you were just shooting a single stage. I think for a lot of people it's a mental comfort placebo.

 

[TonyTheTiger]

I can use a two stage trigger just fine but the philosophical concept of it pisses me off. It's like having to be somewhere 10 mins prior to 10 mins prior to make sure that you're early. Just tell me the time and I'll be there. There's zero difference between the second stage and a normal single stage trigger. I don't need 2lbs of nothing to press through just to get to the wall that's going to break and release the hammer...the same as if you were just shooting a single stage. I think for a lot of people it's a mental comfort placebo.

I agree with this and that's my preference as well, but I still don't know why people are so hung up on this.
I see threads and FB posts all the time from people soliciting trigger advice and find it bizzare that people gravitating towards precision use automatically assume that 2 stage is the only way.
And then you've got guntubers like Garand Thumb that start every video with "this things got a 2 stage trigger, so that's good!"
The one and only definite advantage to a 2 stage trigger is the reduced likelihood of a bumpfire when free recoiling an AR. And that's a questionable practice anyhow.

 

[JR1200W3]

I agree with this and that's my preference as well, but I still don't know why people are so hung up on this.
I see threads and FB posts all the time from people soliciting trigger advice and find it bizzare that people gravitating towards precision use automatically assume that 2 stage is the only way.
And then you've got guntubers like Garand Thumb that start every video with "this things got a 2 stage trigger, so that's good!"
The one and only definite advantage to a 2 stage trigger is the reduced likelihood of a bumpfire when free recoiling an AR. And that's a questionable practice anyhow.

What the industry needs is a 3 stage trigger. If two stages are good, three's gotta be better

 

[oldrifleman]

I agree that a single stage is just as good depending on your shooting style. Do I care which one anyone shoots, no. A two stage just fits my shooting style better, to each their own.

 

[WeR0206]

The one and only definite advantage to a 2 stage trigger is the reduced likelihood of a bumpfire when free recoiling an AR.

This is actually the main reason why I use two stage triggers on my gas guns. Once you get used to them on gassers its nice to standardize them on all guns gas or bolt….at least thats the route I went

 

[oldrifleman]

This is actually the main reason why I use two stage triggers on my gas guns. Once you get used to them on gassers its nice to standardize them on all guns gas or bolt….at least thats the route I went

Me too. My precision remedies are Anschutz and wear 5018 triggers, my bolt guns wear Bix’n Andi TacSport pro X 2 stage triggers. My utility gas guns wear SSA-EX.

 

[YotaEer]

I like the the big G SSA-E and the larue MBT2s

 

[WeR0206]

Me too. My precision remedies are Anschutz and wear 5018 triggers, my bolt guns wear Bix’n Andi TacSport pro X 2 stage triggers. My utility gas guns wear SSA-EX.

Nice! I have the same trigger on my gas guns (along with a larue mbt flat trigger with lighter spring kit). My bolt gun has TT special 2 stage flat.

 

[JR1200W3]

I was actually taught that a 2 stage trigger was good when using non-duty light competition triggers on duty guns. Specifically in the instances when you might be indexing a sector of fire after engaging a threat target to engaging another threat target. The first stage allows your finger to be in some sort of space without being on the wall. But over the years as I've thought about that concept you are really splitting hairs in a situation where you might be pointing a gun at something or someone you don't want to destroy with your rifle on fire and finger on the trigger. It's is one rare scenario where you might find yourself in what is normally a throbbing red violation of basic weapons handling and gun safety. But what a shitty reason for a particular type of trigger.

 

[LeftyJason]

@TonyTheTiger and @JR1200W3. I'm not saying I can't use it, I just want something different. As part of my research I found HarleyWood 3 part review of triggers and he likes single stages. Can't find something similar for 2 stages. He shows essentially my trigger in his first video at 4:13. You move the trigger at all and it goes off.

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I'm not a fan of insanely light triggers and this is currently my lightest trigger. I would likely change my T3x to a krg midas except that I would have to lefty convert it myself (taking apart both factory tikka and midas, voiding warranties) since nobody makes a left handed tikka 2 stage trigger that I can just buy. Can be done per KRG and someone else has done it here as well.

In other words, I have single stages. I want to try a good 2 stage. Have experience with savage accutriggers (not the best example but closest to 2 stage that I own). This is the easiest gun that I have to try it on.

Been reading here and listening to Frank talk about 2 stages for years.

Also I am not former or current duty or anything like that nor will I be.

 

[TonyTheTiger]

@TonyTheTiger and @JR1200W3. I'm not saying I can't use it, I just want something different.

I'm not picking on your desire to try a 2 stage. Do what you want. I'm just ranting about the hive mentality of people that think 2 stage is the only way without being able to articulate why.

You move the trigger at all and it goes off.

That is kinda the idea. If I bought a single stage that didn't fire from any movement I would return it because they sent me a 2 stage.

I've actually shot with that Timney quite a bit and think it's a bit heavy-ish.

 

[oldrifleman]

I'm not picking on your desire to try a 2 stage. Do what you want. I'm just ranting about the hive mentality of people that think 2 stage is the only way without being able to articulate why.

That is kinda the idea. If I bought a single stage that didn't fire from any movement I would return it because they sent me a 2 stage.

I've actually shot with that Timney quite a bit and think it's a bit heavy-ish.

I know you were not talking at me. I have shot tons of single stage triggers from ugly lever action to Kenyon tuned Win 52s, to jewel 2oz and a bunch of rem 700 compatible trigger techs. The 2 stage gives me more control and my scores are significantly better. It is all in training with either one, both work great and if you put in the time you can be happy with either., but ultimately your style will drive you to one or the other.

 

[dgheriani]

Personal preference and all but I like Geissele SSA-Es on gas guns and TT 2-stage Specials on bolt guns.