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Fox and Dominion settle for $787M ...

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    That's a lot of money. The suit from Smartmatic (the software) is next, and will likely come quickly. Fox will want to get all this over with ASAP.
     
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    Fox ran with the "2020 election all good - no fraud" for couple of years now - hard to fight with Dominion when they have been preaching "election all good".
     
    Yep. And shit was so bad for Fox during discovery that there was already a summary judgement showing that they knowingly lied about the election.
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    They were likely to lose the trial and all of the Fox execs and opinion talking heads would have to go on the stand and testify to the stuff they wrote and said in the docs that were unearthed during discovery. And while the resulting monetary award would probably be much more than $800 million, it could be appealed for years and Dominion wouldn't see a dime during that time most likely. So this settlement means Dominion gets their money and Fox doesn't have to tell their viewers what happened or admit that they did anything wrong.

    Smartmatic probably is thinking "oooh, let's get the other half of that $1.6 billion" and with so much already proven legally against Fox, their chances of getting a quick settlement are good.

    Still doesn't help democracy though: far too many people in this country prefer lies over difficult truths.
     
    FOX should have called on Sidney Powell and the Kraken to come save them
     
    There's plenty of evidence of that those fucking machines facilitated fraud

    Dooood, you should have totally showed that evidence to Fox's lawyers! They NEEDED it! They could have won the lawsuit with your help! Hell, Sidney Powell is REALLY going to need that evidence to get her out of the legal mess she's staring down.

    But see that's the difference between saying shit in public and saying shit in court. One is just your opinion, the other requires supporting evidence. You can't just make shit up in court as a statement of fact and then not back it up up with viable evidence. That's why back in 2020 Rudy et al were saying one thing in court and something entirely different in public. The friendly public is going to believe what he says because it's what they want to hear, while court doesn't work that way and he'd face sanctions for lying.

    Evidence is king in court.

    Have a look at the GA special grand jury's conclusions after seeing the evidence:

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    And here's the summary judgement in the Fox case:

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    If you're living in a partisan information bubble, then I can understand this may be a bit of a shock to you. You don't have to like the results, but if you're intellectually honest you should at least begrudgingly accept them.
     
    The entirety of government is not only corrupt, but evil. This includes its weaponized courts that serve to the benefit of tyrants. It’s not a stretch for a criminal gov’t to use it’s criminal courts to legitimize it’s own illegitimacy. The “law” is a weapon to control the masses. Nothing more.
     
    Dooood, you should have totally showed that evidence to Fox's lawyers! They NEEDED it! They could have won the lawsuit with your help! Hell, Sidney Powell is REALLY going to need that evidence to get her out of the legal mess she's staring down.

    But see that's the difference between saying shit in public and saying shit in court. One is just your opinion, the other requires supporting evidence. You can't just make shit up in court as a statement of fact and then not back it up up with viable evidence. That's why back in 2020 Rudy et al were saying one thing in court and something entirely different in public. The friendly public is going to believe what he says because it's what they want to hear, while court doesn't work that way and he'd face sanctions for lying.

    Evidence is king in court.

    Have a look at the GA special grand jury's conclusions after seeing the evidence:

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    And here's the summary judgement in the Fox case:

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    If you're living in a partisan information bubble, then I can understand this may be a bit of a shock to you. You don't have to like the results, but if you're intellectually honest you should at least begrudgingly accept them.
    Did you miss the part where fucking Ruby and her daughter were triple scanning ballots? No protection against it. Deleted security logs. Should NOT be possible with real equipment.

    You sound vaxed.
     
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    Typical bunch of wimps. Talk a big game, make all kinds of accusations, declare how there’s all kinds of proof of fraud. But when time comes to put up the evidence and asked to testify in court UNDER oath, all of them hid behind their lawyers and promptly plead the 5th - yes, orange man included.

    Whatever happened to put your money where your mouth is? At least Fox had the balls to admit it was caught lying, was never going to put its team under oath in court, so paid 787 million to settle.

    Put up or shut up.
     
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    Did you miss the part where fucking Ruby and her daughter were triple scanning ballots? No protection against it. Deleted security logs. Should NOT be possible with real equipment.

    You sound vaxed.
    And people harvesting ballots, and ballots being illegal accepted, and cases of ballots removed from under the table after all poll watchers were sent home, then scanning of ballots continued during which time Biden received around 90% of the votes. Before that they were interfering with poll watchers trying to do their job, intimidating, then moving them farther away, then blocking their view.

    Deleted security logs, deleted all the election data they weren't allowed to delete in many states. Some counties turing in 100% for Biden, and showing over 100% voter turn out. No evidence of fraud though, and nothing will be done to the people who broke all these laws, and tainted the election results.
     
    And people harvesting ballots, and ballots being illegal accepted, and cases of ballots removed from under the table after all poll watchers were sent home, then scanning of ballots continued during which time Biden received around 90% of the votes. Before that they were interfering with poll watchers trying to do their job, intimidating, then moving them farther away, then blocking their view.

    Deleted security logs, deleted all the election data they weren't allowed to delete in many states. Some counties turing in 100% for Biden, and showing over 100% voter turn out. No evidence of fraud though, and nothing will be done to the people who broke all these laws, and tainted the election results.
    Another moron spewing shit out of his ass thinking wild accusations are proof and will somehow stand up in court under oath…

    Would Fox have admitted guilt, settled and parted with almost a billion dollars if any of the above you stated are remotely even close to the truth?
     
    Another moron spewing shit out of his ass thinking wild accusations are proof and will somehow stand up in court under oath…

    Would Fox have admitted guilt, settled and parted with almost a billion dollars if any of the above you stated are remotely even close to the truth?
    Thanks for chiming in random glowtard.

    Fox didn't admit guilt. Fox settled out of court.

    This also doest say there was not voter fraud. It said there was not enough in GA to "turn the election." GA is only 1 state out of 50.
     
    Fox got scared or bought off, probably both. If Fox had won this case then the election 2020 fraud would be front and center to the world. If Fox wanted to win this, Fox would have to aggressively investigate the biggest fraud/coverup in history and they did not want to open that Pandora's box.
     
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    "Through its extensive proof there is no genuine issue of material fact to falsify."

    Yes, we know, they illegally deleted the extensive proof. Thats is why there is no material fact to falsify.


     
    Fox didn't admit guilt. Fox settled out of court.

    This also doest say there was not voter fraud. It said there was not enough in GA to "turn the election." GA is only 1 state out of 50.
    Absolutely. Fox News is the beacon of truth. They have nothing to hide, have no issue having their executives and anchors testify in court under oath despite what they wrote privately.

    Not guilty is why they settled and paid out 787 million dollars, because that is what innocent parties do. They pay out almost a billion dollars because they are innocent.

    I am being sarcastic if you haven’t noticed. You are an imbecile and moron…
     
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    That is a lot of money being paid to avert a trial and for defamation. Fox must really be guilty and rumor has it that someone else might sue them right after this, fingers-crossed.
     
    "Through its extensive proof there is no genuine issue of material fact to falsify."

    Yes, we know, they illegally deleted the extensive proof. Thats is why there is no material fact to falsify.


    None of these wackadoodle shit will hold up in court under oath. Wait, let me try and play another tack just for you…

    Wow, did you find the holy grail? Is this the “Big Reveal” we have all been waiting for? What are you waiting for, let’s get you on Foxnews and release the “Kraken”!!!

    You should forward your holy grail findings to Powell/Giuliani/Lindell/Eastman and the rest of the wackadoodle crew and help them defend themselves in court. In the meantime, forward your big reveal “proof” to Fox News legal team, tell them you have the “kraken” that can help them proof that they were speaking the truth.

    Wow, you have found the only definitive proof that every law firm has been looking for since 2020!!! Make sure you ask for a percentage of the bounty you are about to save them! You are the quintessential all American hero!!!

    You are the embodiment of the saying: “No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public”.
     
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    Fox is just the first. There are a number of people and organizations that likely defamed Dominion, so there's more to come on this subject:
    • Dominion vs Sidney Powell
    • Dominion vs Rudy Giuliani
    • Dominion vs Newsmax
    • Dominion vs OANN
    • Dominion vs Patrick Byrne
    • Dominion vs Mike Lindell
    And a lot of the same people also went after Smartmatic, so there are likely round 2's ahead for the above.
     
    If you guys believe or value anything coming out of these corrupt courts inside a vile and corrupt gov’t then you are a fool. The only reason any of it matters is the “legal” violence the pieces of shit that carry a gun to protect and serve these illegitimate institutions will use against us. Tyranny. The system is a weapon and the people are stupid. Never to learn.

    No I’m not taking up for Fox “news”. All big media is malicious just as all gov’t. This is probably all a show put on for the stupid to “prove” we had the most secure election ever. Bullshit.
     
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    None of these wackadoodle shit will hold up in court under oath. Wait, let me try and play another tack just for you…

    Wow, did you find the holy grail? Is this the “Big Reveal” we have all been waiting for? What are you waiting for, let’s get you on Foxnews and release the “Kraken”!!!

    You should forward your holy grail findings to Powell/Giuliani/Lindell/Eastman and the rest of the wackadoodle crew and help them defend themselves in court. In the meantime, forward your big reveal “proof” to Fox News legal team, tell them you have the “kraken” that can help them proof that they were speaking the truth.

    Wow, you have found the only definitive proof that every law firm has been looking for since 2020!!! Make sure you ask for a percentage of the bounty you are about to save them! You are the quintessential all American hero!!!

    You are the embodiment of the saying: “No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public”.
    You have to stick to your talking points or something? Don't want to discuss what the language of the judges ruling meant?
     
    Sure.

    We all can be guilty of Confirmation Bias - it's just a known psychological issue humans have. It's a huge problem because in a lot of areas because it causes people to selectively validate information not on the merits of the information, but on whether it confirms our beliefs. This is why if you go into a scientific field you have to train to recognize it and control for it in experiments.

    Why do I think it's a source of a great many problems today?

    Because I think a majority of people are either unaware of it affecting them or they really don't care. In other words, they're choosing to accept dubious information over valid information because it's what they want to hear, either unintentionally (understandable) or intentionally (fuck you*). This makes them HIGHLY susceptible to being manipulated by various logical fallacies like Appeal to Emotion, for any number of political or societal reasons. And most relevantly to today, it amplifies polarization because you end up with the ideological extremes growing and reinforces those beliefs.

    * people who know they're being lied to and don't care are making this new Post-Truth Era worse.
     
    Sure.

    We all can be guilty of Confirmation Bias - it's just a known psychological issue humans have. It's a huge problem because in a lot of areas because it causes people to selectively validate information not on the merits of the information, but on whether it confirms our beliefs. This is why if you go into a scientific field you have to train to recognize it and control for it in experiments.

    Why do I think it's a source of a great many problems today?

    Because I think a majority of people are either unaware of it affecting them or they really don't care. In other words, they're choosing to accept dubious information over valid information because it's what they want to hear, either unintentionally (understandable) or intentionally (fuck you*). This makes them HIGHLY susceptible to being manipulated by various logical fallacies like Appeal to Emotion, for any number of political or societal reasons. And most relevantly to today, it amplifies polarization because you end up with the ideological extremes growing and reinforces those beliefs.

    * people who know they're being lied to and don't care are making this new Post-Truth Era worse.
    Na, this verbiage.

    "Through its extensive proof there is no genuine issue of material fact to falsify."
     
    Oh, you're not quoting me, you're quoting the judge in the Summary Judgement.

    The full line in the judgement is: Through its extensive proof, Dominion has met its burden of showing there is no genuine issue of material fact as to falsity. Fox therefore had the burden to show an issue of material fact existed in turn. Fox failed to meet its burden. The evidence developed in this civil proceeding demonstrates that is CRYSTAL clear that none of the Statements relating to Dominion about the 2020 election are true.

    I think it basically means Fox had to prove that what they were claiming was true, yet failed to do so. Therefore, they lied. And the evidence that showed that sure sounds like it was solid.

    This shouldn't be too surprising though if you've seen the text and emails that were revealed in discovery?
     
    None of these wackadoodle shit will hold up in court under oath. Wait, let me try and play another tack just for you…

    Wow, did you find the holy grail? Is this the “Big Reveal” we have all been waiting for? What are you waiting for, let’s get you on Foxnews and release the “Kraken”!!!

    You should forward your holy grail findings to Powell/Giuliani/Lindell/Eastman and the rest of the wackadoodle crew and help them defend themselves in court. In the meantime, forward your big reveal “proof” to Fox News legal team, tell them you have the “kraken” that can help them proof that they were speaking the truth.

    Wow, you have found the only definitive proof that every law firm has been looking for since 2020!!! Make sure you ask for a percentage of the bounty you are about to save them! You are the quintessential all American hero!!!

    You are the embodiment of the saying: “No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public”.
    It's interesting how stories adjust when under oath ...

     
    Oh, you're not quoting me, you're quoting the judge in the Summary Judgement.

    The full line in the judgement is: Through its extensive proof, Dominion has met its burden of showing there is no genuine issue of material fact as to falsity. Fox therefore had the burden to show an issue of material fact existed in turn. Fox failed to meet its burden. The evidence developed in this civil proceeding demonstrates that is CRYSTAL clear that none of the Statements relating to Dominion about the 2020 election are true.

    I think it basically means Fox had to prove that what they were claiming was true, yet failed to do so. Therefore, they lied. And the evidence that showed that sure sounds like it was solid.

    This shouldn't be too surprising though if you've seen the text and emails that were revealed in discovery?
    I don't think that is what it means.


    A genuine issue of material fact is a disagreement between opposing parties on facts legally relevant to a claim. The disagreement must be "genuine" in the sense that it must be plausible (e.g., one cannot logically dispute a contract date without also alleging that a copy of a contract with that date inaccurately reflects the agreement).

    A genuine issue of material fact precludes summary judgment, since a summary judgment is proper if there is no genuine issue of material fact and the movant is entitled to a judgment as a matter of law. The burden of proof shifts to the nonmoving party when the moving party makes a prima facie showing that there isn't a genuine issue over a material fact, this showing must be refuted by the nonmoving party by providing substantial evidence raising a genuine issue over a material fact.

    The material fact was that it changed the election. Dominion argued it didn't change the election, and that shifted the burden to fox to provide proof. Which is supposed to be legally audit-able and a matter of public record. But instead the data was deleted and otherwise obfuscated.

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    I like this, with in 10 days the Fox news brain room new 100% for a fact that dominion voting machines were not switching votes. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
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    So...what does the rest of the judge's statement mean?
     
    @supercorndogs If what you say is even remotely true, damn, what are you doing wasting time here at the Hide with your brilliant legal mind? You hold the the answer that the current legal minds at Foxnews and Powell/Giuliani/Lindell/Eastman‘s lawyers all missed!!! All the millions in legal fees spent by Foxnews and they can’t even match you!!!!

    You need to get in touch with them and save the day! Pretty sure Foxnews be willing you cut you a 15% check that you will be saving them from the 787 million settlement. You are sitting on a 100 million payday!!!

    :) :) :)

    Wow, the idiocy on some people….
     
    The Bear Pit is where Occam's Razor goes to die
    The best way to describe this is:
    Foxnews sold a bunch of dogshit to its viewers and told them they are “truffles”. Folks like @supercorndogs bought it hook line and sinker. Foxnews has now admitted what they sold to its viewers were indeed dogshit, paid a huge settlement and fine. But the viewers who bought the dogshit and ate it ain’t getting any compensation, and are resorted to trying to unload the dogshit they are left holding onto others, all while trying to avoid the embarrassment of being bamboozled into buying and eating dogshit in the first place…

    Can’t make this shit up… :) :) :)
     
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