Fuk NATO and EUROPE

[ArmyJerry]

Move the 3rd ID to Poland, get out of NATO all together, negotiate individual defense pacts with countries that are serious about defendning themselves. Bring all the rest of our guys back to the USA, put them on the Canadian and Mexican borders.

Deport loser Kerry, wtf is wrong with that douchebag, he is goig to bat for the Europeans and Iranians.

 

[fdkay]

The Donald was AWESOME, calling those bitches out!

 

[Srikaleak]

If it's any consolation we spend the money properly when it comes to defense. We waste taxpayer money everywhere else.

 

[Mike_Honcho]

It is absurd to watch anyone try and spin this as anything but a move in the right direction.

Americans need to understand that they have been financially enslaved to bullshit like this. We finance the very bullshit that weakens us, results in the weakening of our culture and loss of our freedoms, and ultimately leads to war.

Obama and crew were pushing every button to escalate tensions with Russia, while HRC with the knowledge of many key figures now investigating Trump, was selling 20% of US uranium stockpiles to Russia and making secret nuclear deals with Iran.

That’s a fuckin coming an a goin on JoeSixPack

 

[ArmyJerry]

this sickness gos back much further than Obama.

 

[THEIS]

If it's any consolation we spend the money properly when it comes to defense. We waste taxpayer money everywhere else.

Hi,

To a degree YES Defense money is properly spent but to a degree it is wasted and/or should not be the USA responsibility to pay it; such as:

In 2016---

668.5 million on Nonproliferation, Anti-Terrorism, Demining, and Related Programs.

Why are we tax payers footing the bill to demine Niger, Chad, Philippines, etc?

1.1 billion on Int’l Narcotics Control and Law Enforcement.

Why are we tax payers footing the bill for Colombia Federal Police, Mexico Federal Police, etc?

5.7 billion on Foreign Military Financing.

What amount of that is ever paid back?

3.4 billion on Afghanistan Security Forces Fund.

What amount of that is/has Afghanistan ever paid back?

630 million on Iraq "Train and Equip" Fund.

What amount of that is/has Iraq ever paid back?

957.4 million on Counter-Drug Assistance.

Why are we tax payers footing the bill to "educate" Colombians, Mexicans, Afghanis, etc on the effects of drugs when we cannot even handle our own drug problem in the USA?

Edited To Add:

Ukraine 70.8 million
Syria 313.5 million
Lebanon 123.5 million
Columbia 203.9 million
Egypt 1.31 billion
Pakistan 319.7 million

Sincerely,
Theis

 

[Nik H]

I am very pleased with the tactics. Enough with the "diplomatic" approach. I would have liked it to go this way

Pay your fair share! Period and end of story. You have 6 months.
We are dropping our contribution to the 2% mark.
If everyone does not pony up, we will pull out and develop individual plans with countries serious about their defense.

And oh by the way, Fuck Germany and fuck the UK. I wouldn't set foot in London or the UK as a whole again. My least favorite city on the planet. I dreaded going there for business talking to pompous asses with bad breath. The only saving grace was they always caved during negotiations and I made bank.

Don't know why we deal with any of this shit.

 

[Srikaleak]

I am very pleased with the tactics. Enough with the "diplomatic" approach. I would have liked it to go this way

Pay your fair share! Period and end of story. You have 6 months.
We are dropping our contribution to the 2% mark.
If everyone does not pony up, we will pull out and develop individual plans with countries serious about their defense.

And oh by the way, Fuck Germany and fuck the UK. I wouldn't set foot in London or the UK as a whole again. My least favorite city on the planet. I dreaded going there for business talking to pompous asses with bad breath. The only saving grace was they always caved during negotiations and I made bank.

Don't know why we deal with any of this shit.

Probably because we have an agreement to spy on their citizens and their government can spy on us amd the governments freely share that info. All in the name of cooperation and security

 

[Nik H]

I'd like to see if it is truly an equitable exchange....somehow I doubt it

 

[Srikaleak]

Hi,

To a degree YES Defense money is properly spent but to a degree it is wasted and/or should not be the USA responsibility to pay it; such as:

In 2016---

668.5 million on Nonproliferation, Anti-Terrorism, Demining, and Related Programs.

Why are we tax payers footing the bill to demine Niger, Chad, Philippines, etc?

1.1 billion on Int’l Narcotics Control and Law Enforcement.

Why are we tax payers footing the bill for Colombia Federal Police, Mexico Federal Police, etc?

5.7 billion on Foreign Military Financing.

What amount of that is ever paid back?

3.4 billion on Afghanistan Security Forces Fund.

What amount of that is/has Afghanistan ever paid back?

630 million on Iraq "Train and Equip" Fund.

What amount of that is/has Iraq ever paid back?

957.4 million on Counter-Drug Assistance.

Why are we tax payers footing the bill to "educate" Colombians, Mexicans, Afghanis, etc on the effects of drugs when we cannot even handle our own drug problem in the USA?

Edited To Add:

Ukraine 70.8 million
Syria 313.5 million
Lebanon 123.5 million
Columbia 203.9 million
Egypt 1.31 billion
Pakistan 319.7 million

Sincerely,
Theis

We give money to Chad, Niger, Philippines to force the government to protect the Christian citizens there otherwise they'd get freely massacred by Muslims.

We pay Mexico and Columbia to fight the gangs so we are forced to use pharma companies instead of self medicating with cheap drugs

We pay Afghanistan because of oil and fresh cheap opium supply so pharma companies and the CIA can make bank

Iraq is a pet project of the Bush dynasty so we let them play in their little playground

Ukraine is being invaded by Russia so we toss them arms and money to fight back so we don't get involved

We pay Egypt to ignore Israel, We pay Pakistan because they are one of the sources of the never ending war on terror

We are fighting a proxy war with Russia in Syria and we pay Lebanon to host a large cardre of Syrian refugees

 

[deersniper]

Hi,

To a degree YES Defense money is properly spent but to a degree it is wasted and/or should not be the USA responsibility to pay it; such as:

In 2016---

668.5 million on Nonproliferation, Anti-Terrorism, Demining, and Related Programs.

Why are we tax payers footing the bill to demine Niger, Chad, Philippines, etc?

1.1 billion on Int’l Narcotics Control and Law Enforcement.

Why are we tax payers footing the bill for Colombia Federal Police, Mexico Federal Police, etc?

5.7 billion on Foreign Military Financing.

What amount of that is ever paid back?

3.4 billion on Afghanistan Security Forces Fund.

What amount of that is/has Afghanistan ever paid back?

630 million on Iraq "Train and Equip" Fund.

What amount of that is/has Iraq ever paid back?

957.4 million on Counter-Drug Assistance.

Why are we tax payers footing the bill to "educate" Colombians, Mexicans, Afghanis, etc on the effects of drugs when we cannot even handle our own drug problem in the USA?

Edited To Add:

Ukraine 70.8 million
Syria 313.5 million
Lebanon 123.5 million
Columbia 203.9 million
Egypt 1.31 billion
Pakistan 319.7 million

Sincerely,
Theis

Someone has to pay to keep the defense contractors busy. Why else would we send 300 new helicopters to the AFG goat fuckers. They will all be grounded or crashed in what a year?

Everything in this country is crooked. I like how .gov goes after "organized crime". .gov shenanigans makes the mafia look like a bunch of kids playing cops and robbers.

 

[Srikaleak]

Someone has to pay to keep the defense contractors busy. Why else would we send 300 new helicopters to the AFG goat fuckers. They will all be grounded or crashed in what a year?

Everything in this country is crooked. I like how .gov goes after "organized crime". .gov shenanigans makes the mafia look like a bunch of kids playing cops and robbers.

When all the countries are following the BMA slogan the USA is happy to make those sales. Which is funny because they are using the aid money we give them to BMA.

 

[Redmanss]

I'm not ready to throw out the baby with the bath water and withdraw from NATO yet, but there needs to be a significant retooling of NATO, our European deployments, and sharing of the burdens associated with the defense of Europe. There is zero need for us to have tens of thousands of troops there any longer, we can just stand by and wait for Article 5 to be invoked after they get rolled up in the initial Ruskie assault if that's the case, but they have more than enough motivation to defend their own land instead of us doing it for them. Time for Europe to grow up and take responsibility for themselves without our billions in annual assistance.

And Turkey... Something needs to be done about their membership, quickly. We don't need to be in bed with them anymore, and they're next to worthless on the battlefield anyhow.

ETA: Perspective on what we have where, along with how much we spend to maintain those bases. http://www.visualcapitalist.com/u-s-military-personnel-deployments-country/