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GAP purchase question

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  • Apr 17, 2018
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    Hi,

    I have the opportunity to purchase a rifle and just wanted to run it by you folks here to see how good of a deal it was since I am new to the custom rifle world.

    .308 built by GAP
    Templar V2 action
    Hart 16 inch fluted barrel
    Seekins rings
    Nightforce NXS 3.5-15x50 just mounted and never shot.
    Manners hunting type stock with mini chassis
    AICS bottom metal
    Atlas bipod
    Smith enterprises Vortex flash hider
    the gun is Nitrided.
    Gun has 250 rounds through it.
    The seller is asking 4000
    Is this a good price? What should it be if sold without the scope?
     
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    I think that is a hell of a deal if that is what you want. You are looking at any where from 3-8 month wait on a build and the rifle will cost 4000 without the glass
     
    Couple of things,
    I found out that it is actually cerakote and not nitride like I thought
    He said that the would sell it for 2800 without the Nightforce which is a model I don't really need or want. I am kinda on the fence about this rifle as I would like to have it but it is obviously a lot of money. Is this deal without the scope one I would be stupid to pass up?
    Thanks
     
    I had a gap similar to this. Was the best shooting rifle I’ve owned. Part of me wishes I kept it for hunting and such.

    What would be your reason for having the rifle?

    Hunting?
    Competition?
    Just to have?

    All are valid reasons, but each would come with different recommendations or advise.
     
    All three. I have toyed with the idea of getting a defiance for a while and am just wondering if this is a good time to get one with this deal. I would probably eventually swap the barrel to something longer but not for a long while.
     
    All three. I have toyed with the idea of getting a defiance for a while and am just wondering if this is a good time to get one with this deal. I would probably eventually swap the barrel to something longer but not for a long while.

    Couple things to consider:

    Many(or all) of us on here have tried to use a rifle for hunting and competitions. It doesn’t work out the best. I would only suggest this if you are on a very tight budget.

    Does the stock have an adjustable cheek? If not, you’ll either be adding one, or strapping a pad/aftermarket cheek on it. Honestly, I don’t know why they even make non adjustable stocks nowadays. I guess they work for some people.

    Unless you’re sure you’re going to use the stock it’s in for something, may be better off to pass. For $2800 +/- you can build a ton of rifle on your own with barreled action, trigger, and stock/chassis. Buy them separately, put them together and done. More custom fit to you.

    You likely will want to move on from .308 fairly quickly if competing. I use .308 for training as the recoil will punish you if you have bad position and trying to see your shots.

    With a 16” barrel, it’s going to be a bit slow for comps. I’m also assuming it’s relatively lightweight. So it’s not going to be ideal for comps where you have to spot your own shots.

    If I had kept my gap that was similar, it would have been use for hunting, and possibly field/rucking style matches.

    Even then, I’d probably go 6.5creed for the improved performance past 600 compared to .308.

    If you have expendable income and want to have a gap, I’d offer $2500 and see what happens. They are very nice. Just make sure it fits your overall plan.
     
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    I’m speaking from very recent experience in 2018 when I started shooting bolt guns again and competing.

    I didn’t have a plan and I didn’t go out and try things as I didn’t know about the different places and clubs down here.

    @trophyhunter can tell you the amount of gear/rifles/shit I went through to figure out what I like. It can be expensive and it’s totally avoidable with a little planning/trying things/patience.
     
    He’s right, if there’s anything you don’t like about the rifle or glass, easy pass on either. You’ll end up buying it and falling victim to the rifle sickness. Many symptoms include, buying needless crap, hating a rifle you just bought before it even arrives, opening a scope box & seeing bubble wrap in reverse order thinking the scope company did the same to your turrets, then you’ll have signs of improvement once you buy the correct rifle...dry firing your new rifle 6 zillion times. Then the accessories for it start a whole new level of sickness.

    Hard to buy something like a car & rifle from pictures unless you’ve been behind either one.

    Good luck
     
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