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    Is there a article or video on using terrapin with the watch? I’m connected to the terrapin with the watch. But nothing I do will change the range unless I do it manually.
     

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    Nevermind. Apparently the firmware update didn’t take. It wasn’t displaying the extra BT option on terrapin. Just the app and kestrel. It will connect to the Garmin in the kestrel mode, but won’t work with the AB.

    Reinstalled firmware and got the extra option. Now it will update. Connection is very fast and seems to work perfectly.
     

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    I had a 20% off code so I went ahead and ordered this to replace my Fenix 5. I use it mostly to track my dogs with the Alpha 100 but I see this watch also has a Federal public lands map just like the new Montana 7xx series. That will be fantastic hunting birds on BLM land. The AB is just gravy.

    I have the Sig 2400 ABS. I should probably look at the other rangefinders that'll work with this specifically for hunting.
     

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    Ran it today in a local team match with terrapin-x and an e-dope data card for iPhone.

    I’ll write more later, but this combo is awesome. Once connected to watch, terrapin reconnects almost instantly (when it doesn’t, couple seconds to turn terrapin BT off and back on). It sends data to watch instantly.

    Most of the stages were multiple target and went like this:

    Laser target.
    Look at watch
    Type in solution to e-dope app

    Laser next target, etc etc etc.

    Then send data to e-dope card. Done. No pushing buttons on kestrel or writing down ranges. Just laser and look at watch.

    You can also use it in a spotter shooter setup where your partner lasers target and you get solution to watch. I’ve now realized the BT issues with terrapin/kestrel are kestrel related as this connection is solid.

    I had the Garmin Tempe sensor clipped onto my wind flag that’s on my tripod. This is now my main data source and kestrel is the backup or I’ll bring it out when the wind gets finnicky or high.

    Bottom line: it’s awesome
     

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    Ran it today in a local team match with terrapin-x and an e-dope data card for iPhone.

    I’ll write more later, but this combo is awesome. Once connected to watch, terrapin reconnects almost instantly (when it doesn’t, couple seconds to turn terrapin BT off and back on). It sends data to watch instantly.

    Most of the stages were multiple target and went like this:

    Laser target.
    Look at watch
    Type in solution to e-dope app

    Laser next target, etc etc etc.

    Then send data to e-dope card. Done. No pushing buttons on kestrel or writing down ranges. Just laser and look at watch.

    You can also use it in a spotter shooter setup where your partner lasers target and you get solution to watch. I’ve now realized the BT issues with terrapin/kestrel are kestrel related as this connection is solid.

    I had the Garmin Tempe sensor clipped onto my wind flag that’s on my tripod. This is now my main data source and kestrel is the backup or I’ll bring it out when the wind gets finnicky or high.

    Bottom line: it’s awesome
    I ordered one from the same place using your link. After seeing a local shooters watch. He also purchased it from Miyar outfitters. They also had the in stock/ delay thing with he and I. But it seems like they deliver so it will be well worth it.

    I used the T-X -> 5700 -> Edope for about a year. Once I got the HUD it was streamlined the whole process. The HUD is a joy to use. They should probably just put AB directly in it so I can own 3 redundant AB systems lol.

    I thought this watch was ridiculous until I saw one in-person. The idea of going directly from Terripan to watch is pretty awesome. I doubt it will be my primary though bc I really like to use the HUD and as I understand it, the watch doesn't talk to the HUD.

    I currently have the Tactix Charlie. It's okay but I miss the buttonology and GUI of the Bravo. It was a direct influence from the 401. Not a fan of the applets in my last Fenix and current Charlie. Hope applicability of the widget environment grows and they actually become useful.
     
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    I ordered one from the same place using your link. After seeing a local shooters watch. He also purchased it from Miyar outfitters. They also had the in stock/ delay thing with he and I. But it seems like they deliver so it will be well worth it.

    I used the T-X -> 5700 -> Edope for about a year. Once I got the HUD it was streamlined the whole process. The HUD is a joy to use. They should probably just put AB directly in it so I can own 3 redundant AB systems lol.

    I thought this watch was ridiculous until I saw one in-person. The idea of going directly from Terripan to watch is pretty awesome. I doubt it will be my primary though bc I really like to use the HUD and as I understand it, the watch doesn't talk to the HUD.

    I currently have the Tactix Charlie. It's okay but I miss the buttonology and GUI of the Bravo. It was a direct influence from the 401. Not a fan of the applets in my last Fenix and current Charlie. Hope applicability of the widget environment grows and they actually become useful.
    I prefer data on my shooting hand, otherwise I’d be using the HUD. I had connectivity issues with T-X and my kestrel. So I was always manually inputting rather than deal with the connection. The watch hasn’t exhibited any issues.

    The only complaint I have with watch is the target card (not the range card). I wasn’t able to get it to show a list like the range card does. So I had to scroll which means both hands off rifle. My e-dope had an issue (restarting phone fixed it), and I had to use watch target card for a stage. Luckily we had time since team match, or it would have been tight.

    It’s very possible I just don’t know how to make it show the target card as a list. Hopefully that’s the case.
     

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    I saw that in a video review. The target card isn't one screen, it's a series of scrolls/ screens. But the range card fits on one screen. That was the only negative thing I saw.
     
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    I set up a couple profiles on my Tactix Delta AB. For example:
    6.5x47L
    140gr Berger Hybrid, 2785fps, G7
    Zero Range=100 Yards
    Sight Height=2.15" Spuhr Mount on top of Surgeon 591
    Zero Height=0"
    Zero Offset=0"
    SSF Elevation=1.0
    SSF Windage=1.0
    Twist Rate=8.00 in

    Why is my 100yrd showing 0.11D on elevation?

    Just an initial set up, haven't had a great deal of time to play with this yet. Bought it, headed for the mountains, just GPS and Tracking on ATV trails, just getting warmed up to the AB side of things.
     

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    I set up a couple profiles on my Tactix Delta AB. For example:
    6.5x47L
    140gr Berger Hybrid, 2785fps, G7
    Zero Range=100 Yards
    Sight Height=2.15" Spuhr Mount on top of Surgeon 591
    Zero Height=0"
    Zero Offset=0"
    SSF Elevation=1.0
    SSF Windage=1.0
    Twist Rate=8.00 in

    Why is my 100yrd showing 0.11D on elevation?

    Just an initial set up, haven't had a great deal of time to play with this yet. Bought it, headed for the mountains, just GPS and Tracking on ATV trails, just getting warmed up to the AB side of things.
    What's your DOF?

    It's prob ADJ causing the issue... just a hunch.
     
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    Ya, turn adj off and see if it goes back to zero. Unless you zero inside or somehow get an actual zero wind day when you zero, it’s factored in and having it turned on will either add extra or double it.
     

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    Like Gunner, I input a couple profiles as well. I was playing around with the data fields on one of the screens and added remaining energy. Strangely, the energy on that screen did not match what was on the range card it printed. I played around with a few different distances and it was consistently different at ranges from 600 - 1500 yards. Maybe those are two different values?

    I was hoping to find a widget or app that will show station pressure, altitude and temperature (from my tempe) all on one screen. I write all those values down once I get to the range from a Kestrel Drop or the 5700. Come to find out all the pressure values given by the watch are adjusted pressure. After doing a search I found that the watch doesn't give developers the ability to show station pressure unless it's part of an activity. AB on the watch, though, does show station pressure but it takes a number of clicks to see the environment values AB is using. Anybody know of an app or widget thats shows those?
     

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    The adjusted pressure is the only one available for the regular watch home screen settings. But on the “tactical” side, uncorrected station pressure is available for the screen settings. It comes up as ‘ambient pressure’.
     

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    Target Screen T1
    100yrd Range
    Direction of Fire 0 Degree (altered several times=no change)
    Inclination 0 Degree
    Speed 0.0 mph

    Environment:
    Auto Update ON (turned off, no change)
    Wind Speed 1 10mph
    Wind Speed 2 5mph
    Wind Direction 3:00
    Latitude 37.7
    Temp 86F
    Amb/Stn Psi 27.59 Inches (HG)
    Humidity 38% (my input)

    I'm getting used to the watch but need an hour or two more to really get the hang of it.
     

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    Target Screen T1
    100yrd Range
    Direction of Fire 0 Degree (altered several times=no change)
    Inclination 0 Degree
    Speed 0.0 mph

    Environment:
    Auto Update ON (turned off, no change)
    Wind Speed 1 10mph
    Wind Speed 2 5mph
    Wind Direction 3:00
    Latitude 37.7
    Temp 86F
    Amb/Stn Psi 27.59 Inches (HG)
    Humidity 38% (my input)

    I'm getting used to the watch but need an hour or two more to really get the hang of it.
    ADJ, Coriolis, and Spin Drift are turned off or on in another menu.
     
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    I saw that public lands could be uploaded, anyone know how to do that? Thanks
     

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    I just used mine today in an NRL22 club match. Connected it to a Tempe I had for my Tactix Charlie. It worked well. Very easy actually. Data was true, button-ology was easy to navigate and use. Range Card is the most easily read. The Quick Edit function is very handy and pretty easy to use. Scrolling through number for MV, range, or what have you is not nearly as easy as a kestrel. Way too easy to overshoot or under shoot when scrolling. I used the target card on one troop line stage. I really don't like the way they have that setup. It is usable but I did have to move my support hand to navigate with a scroll button every two shots. The target card is normally my favorite function along with my HUD but the range card is laid out much better on this device.

    One note about the Tempe, it will appear to be frustratingly disconnecting from your watch but it is just saving it's battery. It will only periodically send temp when you're using an app that needs temp. If you scroll to your temp widget and open it, the tempe will update it. AB will automatically pull this last data. When you close the temp widget and open AB you will see the latest temp. So don't worry. It will pull it. But ai haven't seen AB wake the tempe up and pull it on its own yet without the temp widget being used.

    I haven't been able to connect my Terripan yet bc of registering and firmware update issues but that will really check all the boxes. Id feel pretty confident running it as my primary.

    Edited to add: I started the match with 14 days left on the watch and ended with 12 days. 10 stage, 4.5hr match. Fully charged is a 21 day prediction.
     
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    If possible, please pass along to Garmin to do a software update that allows the target card to show as a list view like the range card.

    As it sits, the target card is just better than useless as you need to scroll to each target.
     

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    I just used mine today in an NRL22 club match. Connected it to a Tempe I had for my Tactix Charlie. It worked well. Very easy actually. Data was true, button-ology was easy to navigate and use. Range Card is the most easily read. The Quick Edit function is very handy and pretty easy to use. Scrolling through number for MV, range, or what have you is not nearly as easy as a kestrel. Way too easy to overshoot or under shoot when scrolling. I used the target card on one troop line stage. I really don't like the way they have that setup. It is usable but I did have to move my support hand to navigate with a scroll button every two shots. The target card is normally my favorite function along with my HUD but the range card is laid out much better on this device.

    One note about the Tempe, it will appear to be frustratingly disconnecting from your watch but it is just saving it's battery. It will only periodically send temp when you're using an app that needs temp. If you scroll to your temp widget and open it, the tempe will update it. AB will automatically pull this last data. When you close the temp widget and open AB you will see the latest temp. So don't worry. It will pull it. But ai haven't seen AB wake the tempe up and pull it on its own yet without the temp widget being used.

    I haven't been able to connect my Terripan yet bc of registering and firmware update issues but that will really check all the boxes. Id feel pretty confident running it as my primary.

    Edited to add: I started the match with 14 days left on the watch and ended with 12 days. 10 stage, 4.5hr match. Fully charged is a 21 day prediction.
    What was the easiest way to "wake" the tempe? Did you just scroll to the temp homes screen and wait for it to connect/populate?
     

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    Are you guys running Environment on Auto Update?

    Got mine in the mail - messing with it now. Trying to figure out when it will update environmentals.
     

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    Are you guys running Environment on Auto Update?

    Got mine in the mail - messing with it now. Trying to figure out when it will update environmentals.
    I do. Haven’t paid much attention to when it updates. I’ll have to check. It claims every 5 min.
     
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    I am. AB only seems to update the temp when I open the Tempe. I haven't paid attention to pressure changes to see if it updates. Maybe it requires opening the BA widget as well...
     

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    Opened up the various widgets that make up nearly all environmentals. Guessing that cycling through them refreshes and allows AB to pull the most recent data. The only one that I'm not able to get to refresh is Humidity. I'm in Texas. I know it aint supposed to be Zero.
     

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    Haven't loaded any rifle profiles, but so far this thing is pretty damn sweet. Perfect for hunting... Will be even better when paired with a PLRF25c.
     

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    Humidity can be set to 50% on any solver out there and it will do fine. It’s the environmental factor that matters the least.
     
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    Opened up the various widgets that make up nearly all environmentals. Guessing that cycling through them refreshes and allows AB to pull the most recent data. The only one that I'm not able to get to refresh is Humidity. I'm in Texas. I know it aint supposed to be Zero.
    Who cares it’s really an irrelevant number
     

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    If possible, please pass along to Garmin to do a software update that allows the target card to show as a list view like the range card.

    As it sits, the target card is just better than useless as you need to scroll to each target.
    Done, but the more users who send in a support ticket on it the more it gets pushed to the top of the to do list.

    Are you guys running Environment on Auto Update?

    Got mine in the mail - messing with it now. Trying to figure out when it will update environmentals.
    Leave Auto Update on.

    Humidity can be set to 50% on any solver out there and it will do fine. It’s the environmental factor that matters the least.
    From 0% to 100% has about a 0.3% effect. So setting it to 50% means you realistically shouldn't ever be more than .1% ish off. Basically meaningless compared to other factors.

    Now if I can just get the Camp Chef pellet grill app as a widget my world would be complete....🍖
    Send in a support ticket on this, and tell all your friends to. Or see if they will share protocol and create it yourself. https://developer.garmin.com/connect-iq/overview/