im looking for a semi-auto .308 win. need ideas on a good, accurate, reliable gun. will use to hunt large game and will customize for target shooting later. leaning toward the M1A or FAL...DSA or open to good ideas...$2000 budget w/o optics. help me pick a gun (a hunting gun that could be turned into a battle rifle would be cool too)
Getting Semi-Auto 380 NATO help...
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I have shot the DPMS 308 panther carbine. Was able to hold right at around and 1 inch at 100yards with iron sights. Needless to say I was very impressed since I was not shooting match ammo.
I have shot the DPMS 308 panther carbine. Was able to hold right at around and 1 inch at 100yards with iron sights. Needless to say I was very impressed since I was not shooting match ammo.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pat M</div><div class="ubbcode-body">DPMS 308 all the way</div></div>
That would certainly be the easy button.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pat M</div><div class="ubbcode-body">DPMS 308 all the way</div></div>
That would certainly be the easy button.
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how does the dpms 308 stack up against the m1a? does it have loading problems or mag problems?
how does the dpms 308 stack up against the m1a? does it have loading problems or mag problems?
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are there any other ar platforms up for discussion? dpms the best?
are there any other ar platforms up for discussion? dpms the best?
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DPMS all the way have had mine for a few years now an have never had a problem with it at all awesome rifles!!!!!
DPMS all the way have had mine for a few years now an have never had a problem with it at all awesome rifles!!!!!
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still no arguement on an m1a? m1a vs fal vs ar platform (dmps i guess)
still no arguement on an m1a? m1a vs fal vs ar platform (dmps i guess)
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pat M</div><div class="ubbcode-body">DPMS 308 all the way </div></div>
+1
About $1100, nice, reliable and accurate. EZPZ Lemon Squeezie
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pat M</div><div class="ubbcode-body">DPMS 308 all the way </div></div>
+1
About $1100, nice, reliable and accurate. EZPZ Lemon Squeezie
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Armalite AR-10. Starting to show up again arond 1200. Better and cheaper magazines.
Both the AR-10 and the DPMS are a better choice than the M1A, to get an M1a of comprable quality to either, you have to spend twice as much.
Armalite AR-10. Starting to show up again arond 1200. Better and cheaper magazines.
Both the AR-10 and the DPMS are a better choice than the M1A, to get an M1a of comprable quality to either, you have to spend twice as much.
Re: Getting Semi-Auto 380 NATO help...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HotIce</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pat M</div><div class="ubbcode-body">DPMS 308 all the way </div></div>
+1
About $1100, nice, reliable and accurate. EZPZ Lemon Squeezie
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In the DPMS you've got a very common, reliable, proven platform. Plus it put another $900 in you pocket for additional mags, ammo, or even nicer glass than you may have originally planned for!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HotIce</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pat M</div><div class="ubbcode-body">DPMS 308 all the way </div></div>
+1
About $1100, nice, reliable and accurate. EZPZ Lemon Squeezie
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In the DPMS you've got a very common, reliable, proven platform. Plus it put another $900 in you pocket for additional mags, ammo, or even nicer glass than you may have originally planned for!
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After looking at you budget, I think an AR-10T (20") with a Daniel Defense or SWS rail would be the way to go.
I have not had very good experience with DPMS products.I am sure there are some good ones out there, I just have not been pleased with their quality.
After looking at you budget, I think an AR-10T (20") with a Daniel Defense or SWS rail would be the way to go.
I have not had very good experience with DPMS products.I am sure there are some good ones out there, I just have not been pleased with their quality.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AZ EMS Pilot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">After looking at you budget, I think an AR-10T (20") with a Daniel Defense or SWS rail would be the way to go.
I have not had very good experience with DPMS products.I am sure there are some good ones out there, I just have not been pleased with their quality.</div></div>
+1 for the AR10T. Mine is very nice, reliable, and shoots very true.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AZ EMS Pilot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">After looking at you budget, I think an AR-10T (20") with a Daniel Defense or SWS rail would be the way to go.
I have not had very good experience with DPMS products.I am sure there are some good ones out there, I just have not been pleased with their quality.</div></div>
+1 for the AR10T. Mine is very nice, reliable, and shoots very true.
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not that there will be any need...but can a ar-10 handle rapid fire, and then shoot accurate?
not that there will be any need...but can a ar-10 handle rapid fire, and then shoot accurate?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: H2O MAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">good, accurate, reliable gun...</div></div>
M14/M1A tweaked by SEI all the way.
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This would be good advice, however his budget is UNDER $2000.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: H2O MAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">good, accurate, reliable gun...</div></div>
M14/M1A tweaked by SEI all the way.
</div></div>
This would be good advice, however his budget is UNDER $2000.
Re: Getting Semi-Auto 380 NATO help...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AZ EMS Pilot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: H2O MAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">good, accurate, reliable gun...</div></div>
M14/M1A tweaked by SEI all the way.
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This would be good advice, however his budget is UNDER $2000. </div></div>
A ChiCom M14 and a USGI bolt conversion is doable for well under $2K.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AZ EMS Pilot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: H2O MAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">good, accurate, reliable gun...</div></div>
M14/M1A tweaked by SEI all the way.
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This would be good advice, however his budget is UNDER $2000. </div></div>
A ChiCom M14 and a USGI bolt conversion is doable for well under $2K.
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I didnt think that 380 was a NATO round ... thats why a lot of Europeans were able to own them in a pistol.
I didnt think that 380 was a NATO round ... thats why a lot of Europeans were able to own them in a pistol.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Outsydlooknin75</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I didnt think that 380 was a NATO round ... thats why a lot of Europeans were able to own them in a pistol. </div></div>
Yeah, a .380 hunting gun that could be turned into a battle rifle would be too cool
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Outsydlooknin75</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I didnt think that 380 was a NATO round ... thats why a lot of Europeans were able to own them in a pistol. </div></div>
Yeah, a .380 hunting gun that could be turned into a battle rifle would be too cool
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I have had both and in my opinion I would go with the DPMS . The DPMS is scalable o your wants and or needs. Don t get me wrong I love the M!A but if you want it accurate it will cost you in money and wieght and scope mounting is a pain in the Butt.
The DPMS allows for cheaper and simplier scope mounting and is far more accurate out of the box without gunsmithing. If later you decide you want a differant barrel or even a differant caliber it is possible
just my 2 cents
I have had both and in my opinion I would go with the DPMS . The DPMS is scalable o your wants and or needs. Don t get me wrong I love the M!A but if you want it accurate it will cost you in money and wieght and scope mounting is a pain in the Butt.
The DPMS allows for cheaper and simplier scope mounting and is far more accurate out of the box without gunsmithing. If later you decide you want a differant barrel or even a differant caliber it is possible
just my 2 cents
Re: Getting Semi-Auto 380 NATO help...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: H2O MAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AZ EMS Pilot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: H2O MAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">good, accurate, reliable gun...</div></div>
M14/M1A tweaked by SEI all the way.
</div></div>
This would be good advice, however his budget is UNDER $2000. </div></div>
A ChiCom M14 and a USGI bolt conversion is doable for well under $2K. </div></div>
This is very true, and some would say, a better rifle than a Springfield. There was a ChiCom M-14 rebuilt with all GI parts, that sold for $900 on the arfcom EE recently. That would be a great option.
Armalite is still tough to beat, but if you could find a GI converted ChiCom M14S, I would jump all over it. Both are better than DPMS, in my opinion.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: H2O MAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AZ EMS Pilot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: H2O MAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">good, accurate, reliable gun...</div></div>
M14/M1A tweaked by SEI all the way.
</div></div>
This would be good advice, however his budget is UNDER $2000. </div></div>
A ChiCom M14 and a USGI bolt conversion is doable for well under $2K. </div></div>
This is very true, and some would say, a better rifle than a Springfield. There was a ChiCom M-14 rebuilt with all GI parts, that sold for $900 on the arfcom EE recently. That would be a great option.
Armalite is still tough to beat, but if you could find a GI converted ChiCom M14S, I would jump all over it. Both are better than DPMS, in my opinion.
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I've got a chicom M14s w/ GI parts (fulton built back when it was affordable). I love it. It's a shooter but not a precision rifle, w/ irons. A DECENT scope mount (brookfield, etc) is going to cost you quite a bit. I'd research this before I went down that path. Dont screw around w/ a cheap one.
Had no idea you could get something like that for $1K nowadays. If (verifiably) so, I'd go that route. But then, I love the M14's.
Now, I think the AR platform is going to be a lot easier to customize. DPMS, RRA, and Armalite. Think Fulton makes/sells one too but expect to pay a lot there.
I guess it depends on what you want to do w/ it. No personal experience w/ the .308 AR platform.
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I've got a chicom M14s w/ GI parts (fulton built back when it was affordable). I love it. It's a shooter but not a precision rifle, w/ irons. A DECENT scope mount (brookfield, etc) is going to cost you quite a bit. I'd research this before I went down that path. Dont screw around w/ a cheap one.
Had no idea you could get something like that for $1K nowadays. If (verifiably) so, I'd go that route. But then, I love the M14's.
Now, I think the AR platform is going to be a lot easier to customize. DPMS, RRA, and Armalite. Think Fulton makes/sells one too but expect to pay a lot there.
I guess it depends on what you want to do w/ it. No personal experience w/ the .308 AR platform.
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