I guess the dot almost seems inconsequential unless you are shooting at a very small target or very long range and dialing instead of holding. The extra hashes for windage look more useful for making the wind corrections if you have to deal with wind plus I guess for making second shot corrections.
The H59 seems preferable but I don't know that it would be worth paying a price premium for me at this point.
So for those that use these reticles do you pretty much never dial anymore? Other than maybe turning in 5 or 10 mils at longer ranges so you don't have to hold so far down on the grid or back the power off to see your hold point.
All of the above^
For me it's all about versatility and use whatever feature I need at the moment.
If I were shooting a sport like F-class I'd dial elevation and hold windage and keep the mag all the way up or at whatever mag the mirage would allow.
ELR, I dial the solution or if need be holdover the rest if I'm running out of elevation. I usually holdoff but if there's 3-4 mils of windage needed I dial that too.
General long range, practice, out shooting with friends, I holdover/off.
Field courses I usually holdover/off but sometimes I dial and holdoff for the fun of it.
Tactical matches I usually dial except for stages where holdovers can save me some time.
I like the dot in the H-59 for precision, just suits me.
I try to use one of the small floating dots on the H-58 for precision, ".5 mil down and .5 mil right" for my aim point for shooting groups, sometimes I get confused and dial the opposite way though and end up a full mill away from where I'm supposed to be. I hate that! If Horus would make fine a fine crosshair at the main intersection on the H-58 the reticle it would be much more appealing to those that don't like dots.
For the most part I can holdover/off and hit stuff with enough competency to be competitive. I have a Horus scope that doesn't track well, it was my first FFP scope and I couldn't afford anything else at the time so I used holdovers/offs for everything. In a way it was a good experience because I became proficient with holdovers and found out that I could win using holdovers only with a Horus reticle.