Hammerli Force B1 - Finally a cheap, but nice, 22 PRS gun?

[MarinePMI]

Oh my...

M-Lock foreend, uses 10/22 mags with an adapter plate. Toggle bolt design with easily swappable barrels (clever compression bearing barrel nut design). And an MSRP of $650. Jeez. I think these are going to sell like hotcakes.

 

[MarinePMI]

It's be nice if KRG could modify their 10/22 designed Bravo chassis to fit this...

I have to admit, I had an impulse buy. Just ordered one from Brownells. We'll see how it actually performs in a few weeks.

 

[Fja225]

I’ve got one. Heavy trigger.changed it to Kidd 2 stage ( dropped in just fine). Arken epl4 6x24x50 scope. Can’t get the gun to Shoot under 1 inch at 50 yards ( 5 shoot group ).about 300 rounds down the barrel. Cleaned the barrel ( bore scoped ). Retorqued the scope and action screws. Tried cci standard velocity, sk pistol match, sk rifle match, lapua center x, and Eley match ( black box). Rear bag and sinclare front rest. Anyone having better luck?

 

[MajorD]

Read the American Rifleman review didn’t sound very impressive at all. To me the easy switch barrel screams limited accuracy ( I stand to be corrected if wrong)
while i admit for the most part accuracy costs money, if you look at middle of the road affordable rifles (CZ or Tikka) they do a pretty good job for the money. The next big jump to rifles a bit more expensive like Bergara shows a small increment of performance improvement ( maybe?) then you get to rim X and vudoo which while they undoubtedly perform better, the question becomes are the small incremental improvements worth the money? For some they are others not so much. I started my PRS /NRL22 journey with a humble savage mark II which no one would ever mistake for a refined much better performing rifle ( which I of course now have) but for what it is, I can take the gun, dial my 300 yard dope on it, and still hit 8/10 at a 300 yard 12” steel. Could I go 10/10 with a higher class rifle? Possibly, but technique errors and wind calls and ammo variation could play in my case a bigger part. I guess what I am saying is you do not need a fancy expensive rifle to enjoy this kind of shooting, and sometimes inexpensive is ok at times.

 

[Fja225]

Here I thought Hammerli was a decent gun. I have a 215 and a x-esse pistol by them. Great shooting guns. Fantastic triggers out of the box and hold a 10 ring if you do your part. What got me was the tougle action. Kinda like a iszmash biathalon ( I have one). The hammerli action is about 3/4 inch to far forward to work correctly. Easy to fix. The part that holds the barrel in place is kinda like a airquip hose fitting. About the same setup as a anschutz fortner ( biathalon action ). I thought if it locks up the bolt it should lock up the barrel. I have 2 anschutz rifles. A 1600 series ( x barrel ) and a 20 series in an aluminum stock. Both position guns. I have a tikka t1x 22lr also. A 9$ spring for the trigger and it shoots in the 3’s at 50 yards with Eley match ( black box ) maybe I guest got lucky with that one. Maybe someone will make a better barrel for it In the future. I was hoping someone else here would have a range report to share.

 

[vaguru]

After reading the review in the American Rifleman, I would never shoot one. Stating that the rifle can fire out of battery is dangerous. Rifle should never be able to do that. I understand the operator has to make sure the bolt is fully forward, but...... I also don't like the "air hose connector" barrel attachment, just my opinion. Shame a quality company puts their name on something like this.

 

[littlesister]

After reading the review in the American Rifleman, I would never shoot one. Stating that the rifle can fire out of battery is dangerous. Rifle should never be able to do that. I understand the operator has to make sure the bolt is fully forward, but...... I also don't like the "air hose connector" barrel attachment, just my opinion. Shame a quality company puts their name on something like this.

You can also add that rotary magazine to the negatives. I don.t see much to like about this gun.

 

[MajorD]

I don’t have much confidence in the idea you need an adapter plate on your mags to make them work either