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Night Vision Helmets! Helmets everywhere! Which is best for NODs?
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This guy makes good things and the cover is quite pricy but it is very good and very customizable. Definately a good upgrade to the helmet if you have a NVG and attachments.
I have a 58,5cm head and Size 1 helmet (L version) and no..i don´t have his helmet covers. I really don´t need one... i would like to have a RG one so bad but In reality no, i don´t need it.
Ok guys... after further contact I discovered the price (with paypal/shipping) will be $75. I decided I NEEDED a multicam and multicam alpine. Won't be shipped until July 1. I'll report back on fit and quality. They are made for the PDG specifically.
How is the seal on your ears after the modification?UPDATE!!! See two posts below for info!
Houston, we have a problem!
First, it’s a solvable problem (photos below), but out of the box, the “ARC” rails on the new PGD helmet are **NOT** 100% compliant with the 3M Peltor ARC Rail Adapters — without physical modification!
I don’t know why PGD would do this. They’re close, and probably work fine with certain other accessories, but they will NOT work with the adapters pictured below (the ones in the AU $50 special) without a decent amount of physical modification (i.e. cutting away material on the 3M adapters).
DISCLAIMER: I’m no M.E., and I used very blunt instruments to hack-away and make my modifications — a big bench vise and a Milwaukee M18 Multi-Tool (the best tool ever invented). Since the PGD helmet comes with a second set of rails, I may also hack away at those, but my 30 minute hatchet job works perfectly. I have zero doubt that the MANY more mechanically inclined guys on this forum will come up with a far more elegant solution. As it sits, it works just about perfectly and all of the cosmetic massacre is hidden from view, so win-win.
First, the problem seems to be that there is about 1/8” too much “ridge” at the top of the rail. That prevents the 3M adapter from being able to align with the rail channel. As such, either the rail itself has to be modified or the adapter does.
NOTE: The 3M Peltor adapter fit PERFECTLY out of the box on both the Ops Core FAST Maritime AND the Kota Outfitters FAST Maritime Chicom knockoff that is supposedly the same shell HHV uses. So it’s definitely a PGD issue.
PROTECTION GROUP DENMARK SHOULD ***IMMEDIATELY*** REDESIGN THEIR ARC RAILS TO BE FULLY COMPLIANT!!! Or they should order Chicom rails that work as well as the ones on the Kota/HHV lid.
Here are a series of photos showing the problem, followed by my “fix.”
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NOTICE: How the 3M Peltor ARC adapter goes right onto both the OC FAST and Kota/HHV rails with nothing more than a little elbow grease.
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NOTICE: How there is virtually no material or “ridge” at the top of both of the above pictured rails. Now notice below how there is a clear “ridge” on the PGD rails. This prohibits installation of the Peltor adapters without significant physical modification, pictured farther below.
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NOTICE: I also had to shave a very small amount of material off the bottom to get the Peltor adapter to fit. It took more brute force, after the modifications were complete, to get the adapter into the rail channel, but it locked in very tightly with zero play after all was said and done.
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So... now off to mangle Peltor adapter #2!
I did the same modification that Horta did. Works much better! I think I wrote about it on page 12?
got it!, thanks man. I will order a pair of adapters and do the mod.
It is just doing some filing to fit it. If you need some better pictures just let me know.
It would be great man specially from the front. Because I am worried about the correct angle of the whole system. The PGD rails are more angled in comparison to the original arc ones.
its more than enough man. Thank you so much. You were so kind and convinced me to buy them and do the mod now that works and seal fine! Seems pretty easy
Doing the filing/grinding way worked the best. I tried the adapters that came with the PDG and I could not get a good seal on my ear protection. I am more than happy to help!
I like the pads that came with the PGD helmet but it felt like they did too good of a job of holding in heat in the summer. Thinking about getting these pads for summer use.
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HHV Micro Lattice Helmet Pads - Hard Head Veterans
The next evolution in ballistic helmet pads with micro lattice structures creates a tactical helmet pad that is more protective, more comfortable, and does not absorb sweat or water.
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I like the pads that came with the PGD helmet but it felt like they did too good of a job of holding in heat in the summer. Thinking about getting these pads for summer use.
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HHV Micro Lattice Helmet Pads - Hard Head Veterans
The next evolution in ballistic helmet pads with micro lattice structures creates a tactical helmet pad that is more protective, more comfortable, and does not absorb sweat or water.
A Brillo Pad for you head.
I would hope it was better quality than the 3 for 99 cents (pre Bidenflation) pack of the ones I have next to the sink.
They definitely hold in the heat!I like the pads that came with the PGD helmet but it felt like they did too good of a job of holding in heat in the summer. Thinking about getting these pads for summer use.
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HHV Micro Lattice Helmet Pads - Hard Head Veterans
The next evolution in ballistic helmet pads with micro lattice structures creates a tactical helmet pad that is more protective, more comfortable, and does not absorb sweat or water.
I watched this thread and I was looking at the PGD but didn’t like the rails or mount. I found a Legacy but I didn’t like the padding and retention system. I also looked at Shellback but felt it was overpriced. I ended up going with the Ballistic Armor Gen 2 helmet. It was recommended by a local SWAT guy I know. Like the PGD, It is also made in Denmark and has the same BOA retention and padding set up as the PGD. What sold me is that the arc rails did not have to be modified and the NVG shroud is an aluminum Wilcox design. I went through Axis Tactical but you can also order directly from Ballistic Armor who usually has a discount code too. I went through Axis to support a local small business and it was a few $ more but they have awesome service. It’s not a light as the Opscore but I’m very happy with the fit and finish.
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Looks promising. I’m a bit of a skeptic, so a dude who just signed up and pimps a particular product in his first post triggers some alarms, but post seems genuine and now I have another helmet coming.
Will directly compare to PGD when it arrives.
Addict.Looks promising. I’m a bit of a skeptic, so a dude who just signed up and pimps a particular product in his first post triggers some alarms, but post seems genuine and now I have another helmet coming.
Will directly compare to PGD when it arrives.
I get it. I was following this thread prior to joining so I signed up and figured I would post on this thread first. I’m not affiliated with anyone mentioned. Just sharing information, that’s all.
i just got my second pgd yesterday. Second nox coming(for a special project), yet i only have 1 head!
Wow! Did it really go up that much?
I’d say no, unless the alternatives — HHV, etc — have had proportional price hikes.
Buck Fiden Flation.
Corn Pop told me it is a real thing, the last time I was in Scranton.
What’s the best bang for your buck these days?
They are ~$430 shipped on PGD's site. They take the VAT charge (25%) off in the cart automatically once you put your non euro address in.
Are Flux helmets even real any more? I’ve been signed up for their mailing list and product updates for months and I get zero contact or notifications from them. Everything on the website is sold out with no way to place a backorder.
I emailed DPG about availability and they said if you order now, it should ship "mid/end of June" and they are switching to a new, lighter, design.
They sent me these pics
They sent me these pics
Just ordered one! What covers are y'all having the best luck with fitting them?
I went with the Agilite cover myself. I think I mentioned it in a previous post, #514.
Anyone running the Sordin setup mounted to the helmet and the equipment needed? Thanks in advance
Just wondering which is "better" or "preferred"
The RAC link kit or the Unity Tactical Mark 2.0 kit and the SARA adapters?
Just wondering which is "better" or "preferred"
The RAC link kit or the Unity Tactical Mark 2.0 kit and the SARA adapters?
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Im Jonas from PGD. I always follow the feedback we get online and would like to share the outcome. The new updated ARCH have rails thats fully compatible with both the Sordin and Peltor adapter.
Secondly they have got a more slim design so it will have a better tight fit.
Weight wise its little less around 1350 gram for large and 1400 gram for xl. Ballistic performance is the same.
The helmets is 100% european origin and its not from Asia.
Kind regards Jonas Olesen
CEO PGD
Thanks for reaching out, those look great! Any chance of a coupon code or group buy for the boys here at SH?
RAC link and a set of real ARC rails that are in spec, you'll have to drill two new holes, not a big deal. Then everything works together a lot better.
You can shave stuff to get it to work with the out of spec rails but why fight everything, seems like a pain I just bought a set of real ops core rails and mounted them.
Wore it for about 3-4hrs straight at a training class, comfy as could be, no neck strain or headache.
Will the new rails fit the old helmet?
It is not 100% tight - but would fit.
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Yes - SH7 will offer a 7% discount.
Do the new rails come in coyote/price and do you make a retention harness with the buckle on the right side for leftys... ? Thanks in advance.
