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    Can anyone help me identify these rifles. I think the light one is a Mauser 98K. Missing a cleaning rod? Other one, not sure. Argentine Mauser? And, if you know what they're worth, I'd love to hear it. Thanks for looking.
     

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    The one on the bottom could be a Mauser 98K or a Vz24. It has what looks like a late war stamped trigger guard but it also has the front sight guard from a Czech Vz24 which was a copy of the 98K.
    Not sure about the other gun except that it looks like a 93 or 96 model mauser action. It could be argentine or any of a number of other contract mausers.
    In order to give you any real info you need pictures of the crests on top of the receiver, any markings on the left side of the receiver and then it gets complicated. Wartime German mausers derive a big part of their value from the proofmarks and all the numbers. If the numbers match on all the parts it makes the value go up. If they don't match values drop....this is true of most german weapons and of mauser rifles as well. General guess is from about $100 for a mismatched Vz24 to $10K for a properly marked German WWII 98K sniper.
    More info will help

    Frank
     
    Bottom one is a K98 Mauser with an early stamped front barrel band. There's something weird with the front site as well and the stock looks like it was refinished at one point.

    Are all of the numbers on each of the parts stamped into the metal and do they match, or are some mismatched and some have numbers 'written' on them with an electropencil? What is the 3 letter code on the receiver ring and year right by it?

    From the pics, and that it has a stamped front band and cupped rear buttstock I'm going to guess its a Russian Capture K98 worth a few hundred $.
     
    This is the first rifle. Looking like a $100 rifle
     

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    Both are Mausers, for sure and, yes, more pics and info would be required to give more details.

    ....also has the front sight guard from a Czech Vz24 which was a copy of the 98k.

    That's backwards, but yes, it's a Vz.24 sight guard. A lot of 98K rifles were in the Czech inventory at the end of the war. Some of them made there, some in Germany. Some will have Czech features, such as this. Or, it's even possibly that somebody put it on there later on. It does have most of the features of a late/post war Czech assembled 98k, however. To my eye, the finish does not look like most Russian captures and the fact that it has all the correct features of a late war rifle (from what I can see) points away from RC, as well. RC rifles were disassembled, their parts piled up and refinished and then put back together with no concern for matching or being period correct. So, it's very unlikely, unless somebody else put it together with those parts.

    The top, darker one is more difficult to make out and markings would be a huge help. Also, more detailed shots of the front sight area would be nice, too.
     
    second one, all matching numbers, but not on the bolt handle.
     

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    I was typing while you posted. :D

    Pics look like a Romanian capture by the pinged out eagles/swastikas and the finish. Commonly found with some numbers still matching, also. The original factory code "dou" is for Waffenwerke Bruenn AG, Werk Bystrica, which was part of the Brno factory in Czechoslovakia (edit* under German occupation in 1943, of course). Value? Probably around $350-$400.
     
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    The other one is an Argentine 1909 carbine. I'm not as well versed on those, but maybe somebody else here is, or you will at least have something more to go on. I would also recommend checking out the "Military Mausers" sub-forum at Gunboards for this one. Those guys are on top of the market and all the minute details in this area.

    John
     
    Thanks for the help guys. Its really cool to know the history of these rifles. Bet these rifles could tell a story or two. I wonder about the guys that carried them into combat.